New chiropractic tool allows less pai...

New chiropractic tool allows less painful back adjustments

There are 149 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Sep 1, 2008, titled New chiropractic tool allows less painful back adjustments. In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

Friends Chiropractic's Dr. Yani Feliciano uses the PROADJUSTER on patient Norm De Vilbiss, 63, of Downey, in Whittier.

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Jen

United States

#147 Sep 24, 2012
Lxh

Chiropractic care has given me pain relief I never thought I would have.

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health alert wrote:
The notion that "aligning the bones in the spine and other places in the body correctly" will "maintain optimal health" has no plausible basis in science, which is perhaps why it has never been shown to be effective for anything. Anyone contemplating chiropractic treatment should first read about chiropractic on www.quackwatch.org , which has won multifple awards for its reporting and carries an "HON" (Health on the Net) certification, insuring the scientific accuracy of it's information.
Crickback

Campbell River, Canada

#149 Dec 5, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Whenever you're ready to answer my questions.......?
Anyway, drp said, " What is better than 110 years of individual case studies?? Where would these patients be without chiro care? I have 100's of individual patients that would be worse off without chiropractic care... just because my title has DC behind my name does not mean my advice to my patients is not sound or scienctific. Not all healthcare needs to be supported by the effects of drugs. By the way most of the drugs on the market do not have double blind,,,,,,,"
Oh please. Who told you that "most drugs do not have double blind studies? The "chiropractic journal"? Get real.
110 years of individual case studies?
Are you for real? What kind of critical thinking is that? Where did you learn this rationale for evidenced based practice? In chiropractic school or at your "proadjuster" seminars that you counted as continuing education?
Was harvey lillard your first individual
case study. You remember, the deaf janitor that was "cured" by your founder. A case study never reproduced and never rejected by the chiropractic community.
And you claim 100% of your patients get better? How incredibly arrogant you are. Typical chiropractor. I guess all are getting better better now that you discovered "proadjuster".
Again, the "proadjuster" has no valid research behid it. What a scam. But how nice it must be not to have to exert any more energy while you click away, instead of actually manipulating those few people that might benefit from mobilization. What a scammer.
Read "chirotalk.proboards.3 " for all you ever wanted to know about chiropractic. This field has been exposed like never before. Its a website made up of current and former chiropractors, PTs, PAs, MDs and others.
Hey drp, why don't you go there and tell them that you have "individual case studies". Ha Ha
The chiropractic diaper is over flowing...help empty it. Start denouncing the quacks in your field. Denounce those that use hio, activator, network, AK, sot and the like. This huge scam must be stopped. Be a man drp and get on board.
Or continue to be a weasle.....most of your colleagues are.
wisdom: by your statements you clearly show the LACK of what your handle is supposed to be
i spent 40 years dealing with scoliosis, a busted tailbone, plus a spinal tap gone wrong. i can attest personally to chiropractic work actually DOES benefit. as for this tool id never be inclined to have such a thing used on me. and its likely to scare the crap out of kids . so what the heck is it doing being used on us?
if it were me. id want to be consulted before i had that damn thing used on me. and i would reject the application of it on my person with extremity . i'm very thankful my chiro doesn't use such a device and as for those out there who need tools like that. better to get the hell out of the biz before you land someone in a goddamn wheelchair.
Crickback

Campbell River, Canada

#150 Dec 5, 2012
health alert wrote:
The notion that "aligning the bones in the spine and other places in the body correctly" will "maintain optimal health" has no plausible basis in science, which is perhaps why it has never been shown to be effective for anything. Anyone contemplating chiropractic treatment should first read about chiropractic on www.quackwatch.org , which has won multifple awards for its reporting and carries an "HON" (Health on the Net) certification, insuring the scientific accuracy of it's information.
is this guy for real?
i can attest to having had been kept out of a WHEELCHAIR thanks to chiropractic work that i happen to swear by. and i should know all about that kind of stuff.had been adjusted by the same guy for years. quackwatch? what kind of drugs are they on? when i can PERSONALLY attribute my ability to cuntinued walking upright ( and NOT being stuck in a wheelchair) to chiros work WITHOUT THE TOOL!
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#151 Dec 5, 2012
Lets face it, you know nothing about chiropractic other than you felt better after having gone to one.

Your anecdotal claim is just that .... anecdotal.

Some of us like to live in the world of legitimate evidence.

You know nothing about any chiropractic technique, yet you felt compelled to post your opinion. Thanks, but you've added nothing.
Wisdom failed in practice

Buffalo Grove, IL

#152 Dec 5, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Lets face it, you know nothing about chiropractic other than you felt better after having gone to one.
Your anecdotal claim is just that .... anecdotal.
Some of us like to live in the world of legitimate evidence.
You know nothing about any chiropractic technique, yet you felt compelled to post your opinion. Thanks, but you've added nothing.
Here's what wisdom adds: "For years I was a successful chiropractor using the very same techniques I bash today. I got tons of patients during the Mercedes 80's advertising NOOPE (No Out Of Pocket Expenses)."
And listen to this. Wisdom said (got back to his previous posts to verify this) that NOOPE was legal. Not kidding. He actually said that. We all know that dozens of MD's and chiropractors were jailed for advertising NOOPE. But wisdom not only said he got patients that way (VERY illegal), but he said it was legal.
If wisdom can tell a massive lie like that to your face, imagine what else he's been telling you. Nuf said.
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#153 Dec 5, 2012
Never advertised noope myself, but I know many chiropractors who made millions by accepting what insurance paid. Those were the days when an evidenced based chiropractor could legitimately make a great living.

Unfortunately, chiropractors these days have resorted to scamming people with bizarre "treatments" like activator and scaring them into lifetime care.

Of course, chiropractors these days have become very bitter.
Wisdom failed in practice

Buffalo Grove, IL

#154 Dec 6, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Never advertised noope myself, but I know many chiropractors who made millions by accepting what insurance paid. Those were the days when an evidenced based chiropractor could legitimately make a great living.
Unfortunately, chiropractors these days have resorted to scamming people with bizarre "treatments" like activator and scaring them into lifetime care.
Of course, chiropractors these days have become very bitter.
AHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA HA Oh man, this is great. Wisdom has just made great strides in his quest to become the biggest fraud and liar.
Folks, folks--can't make it up this good. Wisdom just said, "Those were the days when an evidenced based chiropractor could legitimately make a great living."
I had to read that twice. In all of wisdom's previous posts he bashes all chiropractic techniques, starting with the beginning of chiropractic. He bashes all of chiropractic evaluations, starting with the beginning of chiropractic. He bashes all of chiropractic education and diagnosis, starting with the beginning of chiropractic. Yet, this fraud and hypocrite says at one time 'chiropracitc was legitimate.' "And just for those few years when HE practiced." He just now said that. Conveniently stating that when he was exposed for using NOOPE himself (as he admitted, then forgot he admitted that).
So now we have, wisdom, the biggest loser and fraud ever, saying that chiropractic 'at one time was evidenced based' and he made a good living at it."
Major hypocrite. Major liar. Major fraud.
I am a practicing chiropractor. I've always enjoyed a large cash practice and have helped thousands of people.
Wisdom has never been a successful chiropractor. If what he said is true, that he was successful during the "mercedes 80's" when insurance companies were his piggy bank, then that means he was a fraud without peer. What wisdom is saying is that good insurance reimbursement legitimized his practice. Read between the lines. He's saying that he billed the shi-t out of insurance companies and that's why he was 'successful'. And now that he can no longer advertise NOOPE and steal from insurance companies, well, chiropractic is no longer evidence based. What a complete moron.
And wisdom is a chiropractic expert? ReallY? ReallY???
I don't accept dime one from insurance and I have a huge practice and make a lot of money. I can't help it if a scammer like wisdom had to resort to bilking insurance companies to 'legitimize' himself. See how that works. If you can bilk insurance companies, then you're 'evidence based.'
Wisdom's word is not worth a bucket of warm fecal material.
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#155 Dec 6, 2012
Coming from a chiropractor who uses the activator and claims that he is an expert on wound care, your opinions don't hold much water.

And believe me, I know that you have NO idea what "evidenced based" means.
Wisdom failed in practice

Buffalo Grove, IL

#156 Dec 6, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
Never advertised noope myself, but I know many chiropractors who made millions by accepting what insurance paid. Those were the days when an evidenced based chiropractor could legitimately make a great living.
Unfortunately, chiropractors these days have resorted to scamming people with bizarre "treatments" like activator and scaring them into lifetime care.
Of course, chiropractors these days have become very bitter.
Here's just a small sample of wisdom's lies and hypocricies:
For years wisdom claimed he wasn't a chiropractor or MD. Now, in less than five months he's not only both, but head of neurosurgery at a famous NY hospital.
For years wisdom has bashed each and every chiropractor, chiropractic technique, college, and diagnostic procedure, and yet, just yesterday (look at his post) said he was a successful 'evidence based' chiropractor. Wait, it gets better. Wisdom also said NOOPE (advertising you'll accept patients with No Out Of Pocket Expenses) was legal when in fact in each state it is and always has been ILLEGAL with scores of practitioners going to jail, MD's included.
See, the more this jerk, wisdom, who is clearly not an MD or a chiropractic expert, is backed into a corner, he has to pile on even more lies.
I am practicing, evidence based chiropractor who does not take a single dime, penny or any denomination of insurance money whatsoever. I have a huge practice.
What wisdom said was he was successful in billing insurance companies during the "mercedes 80's." I would call that bilking insurance companies. Bilking--pure and simple. Bilking insurance companies with a professional license is no different than holding up a bank. Both types of criminals should go to jail for 50 years or more. Both are filth.
Let's review wisdom's claim: "NOOPE was legal in many states." Uh, no it wasn't. Never has been. Anyone who thinks that must have been bilking insurance companies during the "mercedes 80's." Period.
How credible is wisdom? he he he he You tell me.

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