That is all it takes ! Plain COMMON SENSE ! Thank you. I have never smoked because that was MY FREEDOM OF choice just as the smokers should have.I've lived in So. Pas for almost 7 years now, in a 4-plex, and I'm a smoker. Some of my neighbors over the years have been smokers. Some of them not. We have this thing 'communication' and 'courtesy' for our neighborly lifestyles, and I've always been more than willing to smoke as far away from non-smokers as possible, just out of common respect and courtesy. Never has it been a problem.
Unfortunately, whoever is passing these laws, has no respect for individual freedom, or courtesy towards people who are unfortunate enough to be addicted to tobacco.
What about the equestrians who walk along the streets and plop horse dung? What about all these shady residential asian brothels running under your noses? Seriously... wake up.
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#21 Sep 2, 2010
#22 Sep 2, 2010
I was describing the Nanny Law maker state of mind and Justdave was taking a huge risk by insinuating " Tar and Feathering " the Nanny Gestapo doesn't allow or make room for opposition ... Basically a Nanny Mama is quaking in her Uggs ... She smells the roofers applying tar two blocks away and notices a single feather floating through air ... In the Nanny Law loving self important mind set it will be assumed infiltrators have entered the zone and a hate crime is in the planning .
#23 Sep 2, 2010
You have a BINGO !!!!
#24 Sep 2, 2010
Randy took up half my paper - really? he was more important than the economy or the war?????
#25 Sep 3, 2010
These arguments are hilarious. The city is not trying to legislate morality or behavior -- it's certainly not trying to prohibit smoking by individuals in their own homes. This ban only applies to common areas of multi-family dwellings; its purpose is protecting others from the harmful effects of second-hand smoke. Maybe you know better, and maybe you can find some outlier contrary opinions promoted by doctrinaire libertarians or the tobacco industry, but the causal connection between passive ("second-hand") smoking and health risks is accepted by nearly every major medical and scientific organization, including:
* The World Health Organization
* The U.S. National Institutes of Health
* The Centers for Disease Control
* The United States Surgeon General
* The U.S. National Cancer Institute
* The United States Environmental Protection Agency
* The California Environmental Protection Agency
* The American Heart Association, American Lung Association, and American Cancer Society
* The American Medical Association
* The American Academy of Pediatrics
You may have the freedom to smoke, but why should anyone have the "freedom" to force others to inhale toxins? If you can find a cigarette that does not produce any harmful smoke, I would completely agree with you.
You have the freedom to get drunk at home. Therefore, why not insist on the right to drive drunk?
#26 Sep 5, 2010
Stop making these unbelievable rules and regulations.
South Pasadena needs some freedom.
I don't smoke.
I don't like smoke.
But you council members don't have the right to infringe on my freedom to smoke.
#27 Sep 5, 2010
Residents should have the freedom to blast polka music at high volumes at 3:00 a.m. every single night, even if it keeps their neighbors from sleeping.
Residents should have the freedom to operate pig farms in their backyards, even if the odors nauseate their neighbors and the effluent poisons their property.
And residents should have the freedom to smoke, whenever and wherever they want, even if the toxic smoke particles they generate must be inhaled by others.
#28 Sep 5, 2010
That is what I said in my post.
Your ability to comprehend is just fantastic.
You must be a road scholar.
If someone is blasting music it is clearly obnoxious.
But we don't need laws.
It is common courtesy.
We don't need a rule, law, & regulation for everything.
#29 Sep 5, 2010
Okay smarty pants. The laws outlawing indoor smoking in public have been responsible for marginalizing smokers and now less people smoke.
#30 Sep 5, 2010
The road scholar is you??? HUH??? HaHaHaHaHa! Educated person, it is "RHODES Scholar," named for the scholarship fund that sends the brightest students to Oxford University. NOT ROAD scholar!!! HaHaHa
#31 Sep 5, 2010
Go back to Encino and light up a smoke.
#32 Sep 7, 2010
I think there should be a law in regards to what clean air loving bike riders wear ... Fanny packs,and those just cause they come in your size does NOT make you look like Lance Armstrong shorts ... that's offensive .
#33 Sep 7, 2010
Winston like many in South Pasadena AKA Mayberry you don't get out often do you ?
In areas outside your little Utopia there are lot's of people that have farm animals horses,goats,pigs and chickens and it happens in DOWNTOWN L.A. all along areas that are off the main streets and hidden away in back lots ... When you try to find out about issues regarding this matter you receive a tolerant answer of "It's there culture what do you want me to do ? " In my mind it means it's very common .
As for the Polka music switch it to Mariachi ... Get out of the Nanny bubble and become enlightened .
#34 Sep 9, 2010
Just wait a minute. Removing smoking from an area results in a net gain in freedoms. When smoking is permitted in the apartments et al, residents are free to choose whether to be active or passive smokers. When smoking is no longer permitted, residents will be free to choose whether to be active smokers, passive smokers, or NONsmokers. Net gain of one for freedom.
#35 Sep 9, 2010
Oh, so you are of the opinion that three-year-olds should be left alone to beat on their six-month-old siblings?
#36 Sep 9, 2010
Philip Morris Sucks Loudly?
#37 Sep 9, 2010
When it comes to regulating the behavior of addicts regarding the substance of their abuse, we need something far stronger.
#39 Sep 9, 2010
An even increased amount of litter is one of the unintended consequences of an ordinance like this.
In Pasadena, ashtrays were removed, yet smokers still smoked and continue the trend of being too lazy to search out a trash can...
so the butts just land on the ground... all over the ground... everywhere.
I won't make a judgment about the NO SMOKING law in this post, but I want our city's to STRICTLY ENFORCE no littering laws.
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