Longshore workers resume work as offi...

Longshore workers resume work as office workers picket ports of Lon...

There are 47 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Jul 1, 2010, titled Longshore workers resume work as office workers picket ports of Lon.... In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

Work has resumed across the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles hours after picketing office workers began targeting four terminals involved in a labor dispute.

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Lock Out

Long Beach, CA

#1 Jul 1, 2010
Lock them all out.
LB Super Fail

United States

#2 Jul 1, 2010
it looks like local 13 does not support their so called brothers. so much for solidarity huh? i told you these OCU's days are numbered.
Phylow

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Jul 1, 2010
LB Super Fail wrote:
it looks like local 13 does not support their so called brothers. so much for solidarity huh? i told you these OCU's days are numbered.
They were ordered back to work, because the PMA had a court order calling the strike irresponsible. Some of these longshoremen are just getting back to work and need to work. They were told not to get involved in the OCU strike for now at least. They will not walk past the picket line if the strike is considered legal. I am not standing up for the OCU. They are greedy and nothing will ever be enough for them.
Livinright

Riverside, CA

#4 Jul 1, 2010
Like all other union workers at the harbor, they are nothing more than a thug group who is grossly overpaid. Clerical workers making $40 per hour? That's a joke right? They should be thrilled to maintain the status quo in this most difficult economic time.
outof there Minds

United States

#5 Jul 1, 2010
$40.per hour!! people make 8.75 and hour and don't complain !! and they work harder that them!clerical worker!! joke!! YOU SURE BE HAPPY!!I bet making that much still dont make you a better person or Happy!!
what a disappointment to other!
Clerk in Carson

Saint Albans, VT

#6 Jul 1, 2010
They all need to shut up and go back to work. Or let us, lower paid clerks take their jobs. I don't need a union and would do their job for half what they are asking and smile all along the way!
outof there Minds

United States

#7 Jul 1, 2010
Clerk in Carson wrote:
They all need to shut up and go back to work. Or let us, lower paid clerks take their jobs. I don't need a union and would do their job for half what they are asking and smile all along the way!
that's right!!!
outof there Minds

United States

#8 Jul 1, 2010
That's right !! Go back to work!! some people dont deserve the jobs they have!! Some people have more education that them and they still complain!!We sure have a strike (Fire all of them and rehired!!!!!
carol

Rio Linda, CA

#9 Jul 1, 2010
employers keep your heals dug in they aren't worth $40.00 Hr most of non Union workers range between 12.00& 20.00hr and we pay for our Benefits It's about time the union pay is Equal to no Union workers and they can pay a share of their Benifts and the Union can Fund their own Pension Plans better Yet get RID OF THE UNIONS!!!
Phylow

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jul 1, 2010
My gut feeling tells me there will be a lock out and scabs coming through the picket lines. Going to be very interesting to see how this goes. This contract is not going to be easily signed or agreed upon by either party.
Where is Rich and Gary

Long Beach, CA

#11 Jul 1, 2010
Rich Dines, the 'unique' boss of the Longshoremen endorsed Gary DeLong and James Johnson for council this year ? Right? Strong friends of organized labor were passed over, no doubt.
Well this should be the endorsee's first test maybe? They should speak up about this matter. Maybe stand on the side of preserving local jobs? Go join the picketing, symbolicly ?
Not likely.
Have either of these guys said a word about protecting or helping this group? Why shouldn't these two 'friends' get in there and help stop this latest outsourcing? Let's hope they do. Uh huh.
During the endorsement interviews the members expressed serious concern about this issue ? It was clearly anticipated? Discussed?
Didn't Dines endorse Val Lerch too? Maybe Val can throw some weight around?
You won't have to ask Steve Neal to try to help ? He cares.
Fair questions ?
Jess

San Francisco, CA

#12 Jul 1, 2010
Rumor is that productivity is up at the terminals with the clerks out on strike. How can that be verified?
Phylow

AOL

#13 Jul 1, 2010
Jess wrote:
Rumor is that productivity is up at the terminals with the clerks out on strike. How can that be verified?
Managers are probably doing the work since most clerks don't even answer the phone if they don't feel like it.
On another note

Los Alamitos, CA

#14 Jul 1, 2010
You know it is really sad that we are taught to go college to get a degree so we can provide a life for ourselves and children but end up stuck with no job or a average paying job and a huge school loan to pay back! And lets not get started with the American dream of buying a home!! I think we live in a society of selfishness everybody is worried about themselves and how they are going to have more and be better than the next!
Yes the clerks make a high wageYes they have great benefitsThanks to a Union and i believe that every Brother and Sister are more than thankful!!But this is not about more money This is about the technology and control How many of times have you been a victim of the please press 1 for this or thator not being able to talk to anyone only a machine or when transferred for help you are transferred to a different countryThis is frustrating!!Shipping companies want to create automated system that will one day eliminate yet another American lively hood that has already been outsourced to another country..
These shipping companies make billions of dollars and now they want to save a few dollars by sending the work to another country?? This is why our country is in the situation we are in today.
Strike Absurd

Los Alamitos, CA

#15 Jul 1, 2010
Employers appear to have dug their heels in, however, saying the workers are already the "best paid office workers in America" whose average wages top $40 per hour.

The HEA said the strike damages the twin ports' reputation just as cargo began rebounding from a 20 percent drop between 2007 and late 2009.

"Completely out of step with today's economic conditions, the proposals seek to boost average annual pay of $96,900 by 21 percent over three years, resulting in total wage and benefits increases of 32 percent over the same period," the group said in a statement.
The port clerical workers' wage demands are ridiculous and exceed the salary for Legal Secretaries with a Bachelor's degree. Ironically, posts from clerical workers' union members on this thread are full of grammatical errors. There are plenty of unemployed college graduates that would gladly accept a lesser wage than the current clerical workers' union members are paid. Employers do not need to outsource jobs, there is enough local higher-skilled and more competent labor available to fill the clerical workers' positions who desert their jobs by striking.

Haha

United States

#16 Jul 2, 2010
Same people always posting and hating on someone that does better than them. Good one lets all work for less the new american way!!!
No Doughnut

Loveland, CO

#17 Jul 2, 2010
$40.00 per hour? doing as little as they have to. I wish I had a job like that.
Tired of being retired!
Hire

Pacific Palisades, CA

#18 Jul 2, 2010
Hire the hot ones back and give them whatever they want.
LB Super Fail

United States

#19 Jul 2, 2010
On another note wrote:
You know it is really sad that we are taught to go college to get a degree so we can provide a life for ourselves and children but end up stuck with no job or a average paying job and a huge school loan to pay back! And lets not get started with the American dream of buying a home!! I think we live in a society of selfishness everybody is worried about themselves and how they are going to have more and be better than the next!
Yes the clerks make a high wageYes they have great benefitsThanks to a Union and i believe that every Brother and Sister are more than thankful!!But this is not about more money This is about the technology and control How many of times have you been a victim of the please press 1 for this or thator not being able to talk to anyone only a machine or when transferred for help you are transferred to a different countryThis is frustrating!!Shipping companies want to create automated system that will one day eliminate yet another American lively hood that has already been outsourced to another country..
These shipping companies make billions of dollars and now they want to save a few dollars by sending the work to another country?? This is why our country is in the situation we are in today.
sorry but you or i do not own these foreign-based companies. we have no say in what they do. they already take bookings and do other functions online which streamlines THEIR businesses. the union wants to slow them down. this increases the costs of the goods you and i buy. think about it.

why do people think they are owed a job?

oh and please cite your sources on shipping companies only saving "a few dollars". approximately 600 working clerical workers multiplied by the average yearly salary of $72,000 not including benefits is approximately $43.2 million dollars. nice try. that cost IS passed on by the steamship lines to us the consumer.
Angela Duits

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#21 Jul 2, 2010
Union workers are overrated and overpaid with zero competition with the market jungle forces. I wish I could work for $40/hr as an admin. And then have the absolute arrogance and contempt to complain and strike for MORE WAGES. What spoiled rotten pathetic KIDS (workers) the unions have employed. Many teachers, nurses, technicians, principles, managers,etc. don't make those big bucks. Shame on unions workers and that includes the Boeing C17 workers. You think you are Disneyland and Tiffany all in Sleeping Beauty's Castle. I'll do your job for $20-25/hr. I hope the ports of LA and Long Beach outsources your jobs. Goodluck Shameless Crybabies, you can't survive in the real job jungle. Don't forget Starbucks.

Everyone, we need a living wage for everyone over 24 years old. Everyone pays generally the same for utilities, rent, food, gasoline, fast food, magazines, newspaper, water, gas, trash and sewage in a local area. We have been povertizing singles and families for too long. If it takes $18/hr for a living wage so be it. And so what. Why should the unions be the only elite special group to have very high wages and benefits. This is very wrong for the rest of the USA.

Our nurses, engineers, doctors, teachers, principles, support staff and technicians don't earn $175K? I can live on $20-30/hr reasonably. I don't need $175K. This is outrageous and a crime for the rest of us suffering and unemployed.

Minimum wage should be for those between 15-23 years old. Over 50% are full time students in California who live with their parents. The others have a two tiered income as food servers, bar tenders, cleaners, etc. In America 55% earn under $40K, that is only $19.50 per hour with 2080 hours annually. This is an average living wage only. No one can buy a house or a new car on these wages.

There also needs to be rent control at 2-3% annually. And socialized insurance (not medicine)is desperately needed now. Everyone working can pay 5% from their taxes for health insurance. And the gasoline can go up $.25-50c per gallon for subsidized difference. The insurance health companies need to go. They are ripping everyone including the corporations, doctors and patients with 16-30% yearly increases with bad healthcare services. CRIME. They are the devil$ Ca$ino$.

There needs to be very fair distribution of living wages, health benefits and retirements for Everyone not just the Unions. The majority of people are the working poor including singles (forgotten)and many have 2 jobs working a total of 60 hours. Why?

Also, there needs to be a cap on all wages and no stock options of CEOs, CFOs, BODs and BOTs in America below the Presidential rate of $400K. In Europe these people earn only 8-10 times the lowest paid employee. In America they are paid 450-500 times the lowest paid person. In Japan it is 18 times the lowest paid person the CEO wages. In most of Europe there is a living wage. There isn't the poverty there as in America. My Euro family can't believe our low wages, poverty and bad health coverages. No CEO or CFO needs $1-15 million yearly income. He is just an employee of the company. This money can be used to employ the unemployed.

Our billionaires shouldn't be allowed to have more than $.500 billion, the rest of our fortune they hold should be redistributed to the unemployed and invested in better schools, infrastructures and jobs. This is our money not just the rich in America. Only 3% in America owns 90% of the wealth. This is very poor distribution of assets, education, wages, jobs, retirement and health benefits. AKA capitalized communism.

Women have been povertized by menopolies for over 60 years. They consider our jobs 2nd-3rd class even for educated women with BS/BA and or master degrees. The wages for us have gone down 45% the last 10 years with little or no increases yearly.
Many admin jobs are paid $12-17/hr. And We are doing 65-80% of our bosses work. Go Figure.

Angela Duits,Long Beach
Legal Euro Immigrant, USA Citizen

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