Maclaren Hall childrens center or juvinile center

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Kylleen

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Jun 8, 2012
 
gwayne wrote:
is that place shut down?
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Jun 8, 2012
 
Kylleen wrote:
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i was there as well when i was younger im 27 now but i passesd by there not long ago maybe bout a year ago and it didnt look like it was closed. im also trying to get my records ifanyone knows howplease let me know. thanks
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Jun 25, 2012
 

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gwayne wrote:
is that place shut down?
Yes it is closed now here is some info for all who in interested
It happened on a warm July night nearly four years ago, but Jazzmon says she still remembers the sickly pop of her arm breaking and how the searing pain caused her to cry out and curse.
She had been sitting on her cot in a hallway at MacLaren Children's Center, Los Angeles County's home for abused and neglected children, when a staff member came by and told her to "get in position," a disciplinary maneuver meaning that Jazzmon was to stand with her arms extended.
The next thing she recalls is being pinned to her bed by three or four workers, one of whom, she contends, had her right arm pulled against her back like a chicken wing before the bone snapped. She was barely 13.
Jazzmon, 16, is the lead plaintiff in a class-action lawsuit alleging that staff at MacLaren Hall injured scores of their charges while trying to restrain them. The county denies the charges and says incidents of children lashing out at one other and at staff members were far more prevalent than the reverse.
But last week, after years of intense criticism over its treatment of foster children, MacLaren closed with virtually no fanfare, part of a historic shift away from institutional care in the nation's largest child welfare system
Now, in an unforeseen twist of fate, the children's legal battle will outlive the institution they came to know so well and from which they are seeking redress.
The end was hastened by a separate lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and other legal groups over treatment of children with emotional and behavioral problems. With MacLaren's closing, the federal suit, which did not seek financial compensation, was settled Thursday.
Jazzmon R. vs. Los Angeles County and MacLaren Children's Center, filed nearly two years ago and scheduled for trial in October in Los Angeles Superior Court, is likely to stand as one of the institution's final legacies. The case seeks unspecified damages for Jazzmon, the five other youths named in the suit, and what it contends are more than 1,000 children physically or emotionally victimized at Mac- Laren.
And even with MacLaren's closure, the lawsuit seeks other reforms in how the county treats foster children, including better mental health assessments and education.... To be continued..........
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Jun 25, 2012
 
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MacLaren opened more than 40 years ago as a temporary refuge for children removed from abusive homes. Over the years, however, the El Monte facility acted more as a warehouse for as many as 300 children at a time. Some stayed years. Allegations of overcrowding, abusive restraint, overmedication and demeaning conditions prompted numerous legal actions and scathing reviews by watchdog agencies as well as children's rights groups.
Jazzmon entered foster care at the age of 4 from a chaotic home, and among her many placements was a year at Mac- Laren. Her bed there was in a hallway, she said.
Recently, she has shuttled among a homeless shelter, a friend's apartment and her grandmother's San Bernardino home.
It would seem that she is anchorless, and she will tell you that is a sensation she has borne most of her young life.
"Right now I feel like the county can't do anything for me that I can't do for myself," Jazzmon said in the Manhattan Beach office of her attorney. She is a tall, imposing girl, who speaks with articulate defiance. She still lacks full movement in her mended arm and said it throbs with pain when it is cold.
On the closing of MacLaren, Jazzmon said: "Thank God."
Jazzmon and the other youths suing MacLaren -- identified in court documents only by their first names -- are poster children for the ills of the system that was supposed to protect them, their attorney said. They were put through a wringer of foster families, group homes, social workers and schools.
While disputing the allegations of staff violence, Assistant County Counsel Ada Gardiner said the county has offered in the past to settle the suit without admitting liability for the sake of the children's well-being. She said the two sides have been unable to agree on a sum.(The children's attorney, Sanford Jossen, said he felt the offers to the children, about $5,000 each, were inadequate but that he remains willing to explore a settlement.)
Gardiner noted that many of the children sent to MacLaren were troubled and brought behavior problems with them. A major task of the staff was to keep them from harming themselves and one another, she said.
The lawsuit alleges that the staff falsely accused many children of assault and that many youngsters, including Jazzmon, ended up in juvenile hall or probation camps.
Excessive restraint was used to control the children, many of whom suffer from mental and emotional disturbances and physical handicaps, according to the lawsuit.
Felicia B., who was 16 at the time and is developmentally disabled, was injured when staff members tried to prevent her from using the bathroom, pushing her face into a table edge "with such force as to knock out one of her front teeth," court documents allege.
March 15, 2003|Carla Rivera | Times Staff Writer
Donscrizz

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I was at Mac back in 1991, when I was 12 years old with my twin brother and little sister. I was there for about 6 months before I was placed into a foster home. I have lots of memories of that place. But mostly good ones. I remember being placed in H Cottage, and seeing my brother get "restrained" for just looking at a counselor. Then he was put in a patted room where all you hear are screams. He got his stuff together, and we both enjoyed being on the honor system. To us, it was better then being in A Wing (Troubled kids stayed there). I did not see the other terrible things that some kids experienced, but I am truly sorry. I remember the outings (I got to go see The Witches, and Ghost at the movies with a counselor named Pepe, and Barbara) However looking back, their were some very questionable routines some of the counselors took part of. I remember a counselor named Obed, who would make all the boys line up with only a towel wrapped around your waist, and makes you show him your undies to check for (crack juice. His words) if you are clean good, you move on. If not, you get no dinner. I remember I did once, and snuck not the laundry area, and stole a clean pair. That was the only thing I experienced that I was very uncomfortable with. I saw so many people come and go. It was difficult at times. I was lonely, and every time I met someone, they would either get placed or go AWOL. I remember meeting a pretty girl named Jane. My first girlfriend. She left without saying goodbye. I had another girlfriend named Raneka. She at least came to me while I was on cleaning duty to tell me goodbye. Point is, Mac Hall was a tough place for kids. Kids who were dealing with abandonement issues got to experience that over and over again. I always wanted to see how some of the kids turned out after their stay there. I remember seeing a kid about 15 years ago who at Mac Hall was very troubled on my street just walking. He did not reconize me. I did not want to leave Mac Hall, but knew it was time. I drifted into a foster home, and stayed there 1 year until my mom got her life back on track. I have since finished High School and College with a B.A. In English Lit. I hope to be write a book about my life and experience in the foster care system. If I could change my life, so can you all. I know there are a lot hurt people out there. The counselors there were not perfect, and some of the kids there were in fact pretty scary (one kid started dry humping a stuffed animal in front of my brother and I for no reason. We called him Big Balls Chambers). But I did learn from this. To never abandon my children in a way where they would have to go to a place like this. I will continue to pray for you all.
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#27
Jul 1, 2012
 
I was in there when I was 11. So many bad memories. Is that place still there. Would like to drive by and get some closure.
Kylleen

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Jul 1, 2012
 
gwayne wrote:
is that place shut down?
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Terrence

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Jul 2, 2012
 
Hey, my name is Terrence and I was a resident at Maclaren back in 1988. I remember celebrity day , the school, getting points for good behavior and using them to buy stuff a the store. I am sorry to read that some folks had a hard time. I think I am an exception.
I had a good enough time. If anyone was there in 1988 in the senior boys drop me an email at tsdasbecky@gmail.com.
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the whole foster care system was based on a social workers case report. no facts really but based on assumption. allegations. and recommendations. i'd like to know if anyone was placed under a relative as guardianship only to be kick out when the checks stopped. and if your parents where refused visitation.
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#32
Aug 10, 2012
 
Does anyone rememeber Romeo the counselor? My first time there I was a pixie and keeped coming back, next thing I new I was a senior girl.
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I was only 10 when I was there in 1990. I do not remember the names of the people. I tried for years to forget. I still try. I don't know why but I wanted to look for pics of the place. I was there for 3 months I think. It's all a blur yet a lot still stands out. The staff were cruel. Cold hearted. They dragged small children around by their hair, legs, arms, or ears. Infants too. I witnessed it many times. There was one child there I forgot her name. I think she was 14 she was a heavy set african american girl who had a problem with hitting. I know race is not an issue I'm just giving details in case someone reads this knows or remembers who I'm talking about. This hitting girl would hit for no reason. It was some sort of impulse she had I guess. She hit me and they locked her up. I felt so bad for her. I didn't want her locked up. They dragged her away kicking and screaming. I do remember 1 staff member named "Ms. Tina". She was young, dark hair, bright red manicured nails, and bright red lips. Lots of make up. Big hair, 80's styled hair like those metal bands. One of my "room mate" was this little kid named Jessica. She was 6. I think I remember a male staff named Julio. I don't know. I had a "boyfriend" there. He was such a sweetheart. He watched out for me and often he'd get in trouble for watching out for me. God, I wish I could remember his name. He was in the 6th grade. Age I forgot. To this day I hope and pray he and Jessica are OK considering what they had to go thru. We'd have activities. Sometimes swimming was 1. Batheing suits given to us for 1 times use. Never washed. I remember because 1 girl had her period and they didn't wash the suits. It still had blood in the crotch. I was forced to wear a batheing suit someone had wore the week before (not the bloody one) someone else was forced to wear that. Before I left I had to stay in the "hospital" or clinic area of the orphanage. I had a high fever. They took my temp by rectum and called me a wuss or chicken $hit if I cried. And I cried a lot. I was told to shut up while I cried during exams. Why they felt the need to examine me naked for a fever is beyond me. I'll never forget. I try to but I can't! I just can't. If anyone has pics they want to or can share with me please feel free to do so! I think if I saw this place I'd be able to move on. I kow it seems strange. But I think I can go forward. Us kids at Mac Hall stuck together like bros and sis. Like family because we had nobody else! We protected one another. Except I was sexually abused by 2 people when I was there. By 2 kids my age. I couldn't tell an adult. I'd have gotten in trouble. My email is LivngdeadGrl333@aol.com. Please email me pics and stories. Thank you so much. My name is Georgia.
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Sep 4, 2012
 
shayna aka Regina wrote:
Anyone who was abused while in MacLaren's care can contact me at revshayna@vzw.blackberry.net. I would love to be able to set up a support group for those who lived through the abuse at MacLaren.
My husband & friend & I was there in the late 80 s early 90 s
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#35
Sep 27, 2012
 
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I spent many years in and out of Maclaren Hall as a 10 year old, the last time when I was 16.. When I was put into a group home where I remained till I was emancipated. I was in the the first time in 1984 and the last time in 1990. The place was set up into "cottages" I was in Jr. Girls and Sr. Girls.. Although I remember disliking Maclaren and thinking about Awoling a lot for a kid like me there were not many places willing to take a "damaged" child. I was restrained and put into a timeout room..(a locked room with bare walls and floors) Now with the ability to look back I know that was done to protect myself and others. I was angry for the abuse that I suffered that put me there so I acted out terribly. As did most the people I was there with. Once I reliezed fighting and acting tough were not gonna help me get out, I changed.. Then the program went smoothly I enjoyed things that most people did, went on outings.. Met many celebrities (once a year they had a celebrity day) I watched Run DMC do a private concert inside the walls, they also would have tons of activities. They even took poloroid pictures of you with the different celebrities.. Some I still have to this day. The system may not have been perfect but I was not burned with coffee or ciggerettes, or beaten or touched when I went to sleep. So from where I came from it was "safe". Being a kid in the system for many years a total of 12 years.. This was not the worst place that I was. When I emancipated I got a full ride to college (With the help of my social worker) and I made something of me. I think life is what you make of it, I choose not let the circumstances of my childhood define who I am, this includes Maclaren Hall... I think everyone there was just trying to survive including the staff members who had to deal with such abused children, I could not imagine how hard that might be. I am 37 years old and I would not change who I am today.. I am married to my best friend, have great kids, and have a great career. I think this experience shaped me into the person that I am. I came on this form to connect with some of the great people I met while I was there.. If you were there during this time and story sounds familiar please reply.. Thanks Kylleen
Kylleen-I was there about that same time. I remember Celeb Day. I remember Aaron Spelling would come every Sunday, take polaroids and give us Snickers bars and cokes....I wasn't abused but it was a scary enviorment still for a 15 year old.
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Sep 27, 2012
 
Do you remember Whoopi Goldberg and Henry Winkler would come one day a week.. Different celebs sponsered different cottages. I agree the environment was not ideal, and I can agree sometimes frightening but the things that I read on some of the post where not the Maclaren I remember. I am making a choice to not dwell on the bad things that have happened to me, I have reconnected with several people I was in placement with and most of them are productive people despite their childhood. I wish the best for the children who had to grow up entirely to fast at Maclaren (MCC) I just remember it was the system in general that was broken not just MCC.
P.s. I still have some of those Polaroids that they took on Celeb day..
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Sep 27, 2012
 
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Kylleen-I was there about that same time. I remember Celeb Day. I remember Aaron Spelling would come every Sunday, take polaroids and give us Snickers bars and cokes....I wasn't abused but it was a scary enviorment still for a 15 year old.
Do you remember Whoopi Goldberg and Henry Winkler would come one day a week.. Different celebs sponsered different cottages. I agree the environment was not ideal, and I can agree sometimes frightening but the things that I read on some of the post where not the Maclaren I remember. I am making a choice to not dwell on the bad things that have happened to me, I have reconnected with several people I was in placement with and most of them are productive people despite their childhood. I wish the best for the children who had to grow up entirely to fast at Maclaren (MCC) I just remember it was the system in general that was broken not just MCC.
P.s. I still have some of those Polaroids that they took on Celeb day..
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Nov 19, 2012
 
I am wue,I posted the first message, I would like tp thank everyone that responded, also anyone that was there in the early 70's,I was with my sister cathy, I also remember a girl named Diamond Davis, I went to a foster home in Anaheim,calif. Diamond came later. Anyone is welcome to e mail me at wuebwed@gmail.com good luck & God bless!
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I also was a resident there at mcclarren hall. put there by my mother. was tired of babysitting all my brothers and sisters at the age of 15.. while she went drinking and having fun with my father's friend.. I took rat poisoning and then became an award a mcclarren hall I don't actually remember everything. I stood there for 6 months until my 18 year old brother took me under his wing. my brother is my hero and I also for gave my mother. because that's what Jesus Christ would want me to do
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Jan 30, 2013
 
I remember that place like it was yesterday. I was 4 years old when my brother then 1 years old was sent there. I remember the showers that had light blue floors and the locked rooms, the screaming and crying. I remember two ladies who were very mean when I arrived that forced me into the shower with another young boy who was very skinny and crying. They separated my brother and I and it seemed like we were there forever. This was in 1986. I dont have nightmares about it but the crying and fear I remember all to well. We are survivors arent we? We have a story to tell because we survived the trauma.
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I was taken there by my parents in the 60s. i think i was probably around 6 or 7 years old, If my memory serves me right i think i was kicked out for smashing a counselors finger's in a doorway in one of the dorms... Was taken to los Padrinos in Downey Ca. Yeah, I remember the long drive-way, fences with chicken wire, the foyer as you stepped thru the big doors, and the wings/hallway's off of the foyer, the mistreatment wasn't as bad as it seemed to get as the years went by, I think a lot of the counselors were a lot better & really cared, sure there were some that were abusive, they were probably victims of abuse when they were children,I was an angry kid, when your parents take you somewhere & leave you there a whole lot of issues are created, Issues that a kid my age would not understand,Abandonment issues are a bad thing for a kid to feel especially when you have a lot of older Brothers & Sisters who were no longer there, I am the youngest of my Family... I understand a lot of this stuff now, however it was the beginning of a journey that cheated me out of my childhood & a lot of my Adulthood, i grew up in the system from there all the way to prison, that's all i knew for for a very very long stretch of my life...However I can gladly say that on September 1st, 1998. I walked out of R&R in Tracy, Ca. and have never been back, or in jail of any type, other than the one in my mind, It's different for people who grow up that way, and i work on these Issue's still today... I can be reached at "Solosober@G Mail.com , or on facebook under my name...Have been clean & sober for around 12 years!!!
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Manuel Villalobos wrote:
I was taken there by my parents in the 60s. i think i was probably around 6 or 7 years old, If my memory serves me right i think i was kicked out for smashing a counselors finger's in a doorway in one of the dorms... Was taken to los Padrinos in Downey Ca. Yeah, I remember the long drive-way, fences with chicken wire, the foyer as you stepped thru the big doors, and the wings/hallway's off of the foyer, the mistreatment wasn't as bad as it seemed to get as the years went by, I think a lot of the counselors were a lot better & really cared, sure there were some that were abusive, they were probably victims of abuse when they were children,I was an angry kid, when your parents take you somewhere & leave you there a whole lot of issues are created, Issues that a kid my age would not understand,Abandonment issues are a bad thing for a kid to feel especially when you have a lot of older Brothers & Sisters who were no longer there, I am the youngest of my Family... I understand a lot of this stuff now, however it was the beginning of a journey that cheated me out of my childhood & a lot of my Adulthood, i grew up in the system from there all the way to prison, that's all i knew for for a very very long stretch of my life...However I can gladly say that on September 1st, 1998. I walked out of R&R in Tracy, Ca. and have never been back, or in jail of any type, other than the one in my mind, It's different for people who grow up that way, and i work on these Issue's still today... I can be reached at "Solosober@G Mail.com , or on facebook under my name...Have been clean & sober for around 12 years!!!
That is awesome. I am glad that you have made and stayed strong. I know what it feels like to grow up in the system into adulthood as a female. I am 7 years sober and working with dual diagnosis..go with what I know.:)

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