Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,373

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#210974 Aug 19, 2013
Popess wrote:
Saudi King Demands UN Resolution Condemning Religious Insults.
Go jam sand up your oil pipe Saudi puke.
I certainly hope that he intends for Christianity to be a protected class, as well....
Maybe they can stop vilifying Christians....

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#210975 Aug 19, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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I refer to this as the "why must you change the definition of voting?"
If you are going to say that woman voting is the same as men voting, they why is there then not one similar example of a proportionate presence of women voting in even ONE culture from start to finish of the culture's existence like men voting has?
More fairy tales from Greggie!!
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Why is there then not one similar example of the acceptance of inter-racial 'marriage' in even ONE culture from the start to finish of the culture's existence like same race marriage has?
Ooooh, do keep those fairy tales coming Greggie!!
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Why is there not one geographical location, where handicap rights established a foothold, held and spread like other rights did?
Keep 'em rolling Greggie!
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There is historical evidence of a brief and rare presence of various religious cults in a few cultures, but they NEVER took root and spread. Why?
My goodness, fairytale hour sure is fun today Greggie!
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In fact, there is also historical evidence that even when inter-racial 'marriage' did begin to show up, it was resisted.
Historical context. The argument of idiots. Smirk.
1. Not true and hardly equal. There are immensely far more examples of women being able to vote than there are of ss marriage.

Moreover, you would think there would at least be examples of gay couples, using your example of women.

2. There are examples of interracial marriage in numerous cultures from start to finish. Which only makes the lack of ss couples all the more striking!

3. Again, there are numerous examples of rights for the handicapped in many cultures throughout history. In fact, I think there should be sexually handicapped rights for GLBT's!

4. Now you have gone from ignorant to silly stupid. Belief systems rise and fall on their merit. Hence a few religions have survived. However, not one example of ss couples. While EVERY SINGLE CULTURE IN HUMAN HISTORY HAS MARRIAGE FROM START TO FINISH!

That is incredibly profound! Every single one from start to finish. And not ONE single culture with ss couples being called marriage.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#210976 Aug 19, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Historical context is the argument of fools. Women can vote, blacks are free and gays can marry. Sorry that disappoints you so.
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You are correct. No wrist splitting needed since Prop 8 is dead.
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Your belief that you define what is normal doesn't bother me at all! It simply makes you look pathetic and sad.
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Why did you switch from normal to norm? They are two different things. Desperate much?!
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Wow. Rant much? Hon, I have no fears about being gay. What a stupid comment. You're beginning to sound as stupid as Brian_G the village idiot. There is nothing factual in your last statement whatsoever. Do you like making a dumbass out of yourself? Sure seems that way.
Historical context is fully relevant, except to idiots, like you, that wish to eliminate wisdom, in order to pave the way for ignorance. We can see how the wisdom that we have collected, over eons, has given you obstacles. Sorry 'bout that...

We do define what normnal is, it is your task to attempt to dispute it. Sorry 'bout that, too....

Splitting hairs is a mark of losing an argument.

Rants? Where? Oh, you might be ranting, but we understand your flaws...

No-one fears your being gay, any more than we fear dog poo. We don't fear it, but no-one is going to play in it, either, without some sort of break from reality...

It sure seems that you need someone to insult, in order to make any kind of a weak point.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#210977 Aug 19, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Then let me make a recommendation to those of you who wish to tie children so closely to matrimony. The following regulations should be initiated immediately:
1.) Mandate that all potential married couples be thoroughly examined by a medical doctor to be sure that they are capable of having children. Any couples who are found to be infertile should be denied a license to wed.
2.) Create a licensing process that mandates all potential married couples agree to have at least one child by a certain date. If the couple does not produce an offspring by a certain time, then the marriage will be nullified. Couples who have repeated miscarriages would be given a specific period of time to treat the causes. If the miscarriages continue to happen then the marriage should be nullified.
3.) Potential married couples and married couples who cannot conceive within a certain period of time must agree to adopt a child within a certain period of time. If they fail the adoption screening or for any reason refuse to adopt a child then the marriage should be nullified.
4.) Married couples should have their marriages nullified the moment their youngest child moves out onto their own.
5.) The U.S. population should be closely monitored for a drop in birthrates. If birthrates fall below a certain point then single, heterosexual individuals should be mandated to marry and procreate. If the population raises above a to-be-determined point then all marriage licenses should be stopped. Couples found to have children out of wedlock should be heavily fined.
Sounds like a plan... Why don't you guys get right on it?
Again, why mandate something married couples have to use protection to prevent???

Never been a problem.

Except for gay couples must use protection to have abusive intercourse.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#210978 Aug 19, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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I'm not aware that any of the amendments and statutes are referred to legislatively as a DOMA. I'll concede the point to you since you seem to think you're an expert and quite frankly I don't care. They won't be around long enough for me to worry about them.
You can't even concede a point with grace, can you? You're just a shabby little person, ain'tcha?
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#210979 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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"Next"? Are you serious? If you don't like the majority having the majority say, then might I suggest that you find somewhere else to defile? WE have every right to say what WE will allow and what WE won't. You're like a bum getting on the bus, driving everyone else off, due to his effluvia, and not giving a rats ass about how he smells.
Damn...."the majority is a bunch of opinionated horses asses." Damn....
They whine about the way our government is supposed to be run but still abuse the crap out of the system, I don't get it!
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#210980 Aug 19, 2013
WHY VOTE wrote:
Ok, I don't really care if same sex people get married or are together in any capacity. I am for equal rights BUT.......... I am very annoyed that peoples votes don't mean anything anymore. What happened to a majority vote rules? What happened to the peoples voice?
My stance on this has nothing to do with same sex couples. This is just the latest thing a court has overturned or blocked that THE PEOPLE voted for. Look at AZ., look back at prop. 187 which would have saved is billions in illegal immigrant funding. The people of the USA are trying to make changes to better our country and the few judges are effectively disenfranchising us.
Again this is not directed at same sex couples it is major frustration over the majority loosing there voice.
WHY VOTE????
Post # 10 on this insane ride, we knew what the problem was from the beginning.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#210981 Aug 19, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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So those people who live in areas of the world where Christianity is either unheard of or forbidden are just out of luck? You believe that they live in "confusion" and incapable of being touched by the Holy Spirit?
I simply do not agree, Suzanne.
I'm not going to neurotically count your posts like you did mine but you sure post way more than I do, fruitcake!

Why, let's just count your posts today for example...
Big D

Modesto, CA

#210982 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Lack of fertility used to be a cause for annulment. But, as the rational reasons for marriage have been swept away, this is no longer allowed to be relevant. Your incessant lobbying has seen to that.
You can get a divorce or annulment for no reason at all, zero.

Show me the case in the US where a marriage license was refused because of a couples inability or lack of intent to have children

Or show me a case in the US where the state stepped in and forced an annulment against the wishes of both parties because of the inability or intent to have children.

Otherwise, the entire procreation argument is dead, simply does not apply
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#210983 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Nicely said. Todays "SSM" is a means to personal gratification, not meant to promote the common welfare.
B I N G O !! Homo sexual gratification is purely personal it has nothing to do with the advancement of society. In a society, your personal rights don't mean crap. That is why society dictates moral acceptance and homosexuality is still NOT accepted by society as a whole.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#210984 Aug 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Again, why mandate something married couples have to use protection to prevent???
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To prevent Christians
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#210985 Aug 19, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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Wow. hysterical much?
That's funny. He got you, dead to rights, and that is all that you can produce?
Evade much?
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#210986 Aug 19, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I'm not going to neurotically count your posts like you did mine but you sure post way more than I do, fruitcake!
Why, let's just count your posts today for example...
Mat take a while, vv has to pull down his buddies pants to be able to count to 21.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#210987 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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And, I don't have any problems with most of the gays, either. But (to paraphrase)But most gays do not try and preach to my children and grandchildren without my, or their parents, consent, they donít belittle people who have different opinions than themselves, I know quite a few them think that they have a right to speak to my kids in 1st grade about sexual matters, but they have no right to do so.
I imagine that it's now time to rip "my" argument apart... Now that the shoe has found itself on the other foot....
And, I don't think that it's correct to eliminate the gender barriers in school restrooms. I know that Chongo and I had differences about this exact issue. It would seem that Chongo has gotten its way...
In my opinion, they need to build alternate facilities for the 3rd type of kids, the "mixed up" signs can't be that expensive to produce. They have no right to force themselves into restrooms for the normal kids, the ones who had no issues, up until now...
I never once worried about that, you don't get mixed up, you are who you are, no outside influence is going to cause you to be gay.

My children have many gay friends, as did I, zero effect
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#210988 Aug 19, 2013
May, may, may damn! and thats vv (two v s) not a w. v.v.
suzanne henderson

El Dorado Hills, CA

#210989 Aug 19, 2013
sheesh wrote:
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What then is to become of the Jews? Will Jesus abandon his own people?
What of the numerous Christian faiths that believe theirs is the one true religion. All of them accept Jesus Christ as Savior, but many think theirs is the one true religion.
Where is my deceased father, a devout Methodist? Where will my mother, a devout Methodist go? What of my oldest brother, changed to the Baptist faith by marriage? My sister, somewhere in between Baptist and Methodist? My next oldest brother, still deeply faithful but wandering from the Methodist Church we grew up in? And my slightly older brother, gone to the Pentecostal Church by marriage?
You enter my church the moment you walk out of your house. What is to become of me?
I think you may be thinking that a deninomination is a religion, but Christianity is a religion like Buddist & Muslums. Denominations are baptist, presbyterian, penecostal, church of christ, nazarine, catholic etc, these are denominations. This is really not the way the Apostle Paul set up His Church (Called Out). Read First Corinthians Chapter 5 when it talks about Apostle Paul letter to the Corinthians, he was upset because they were separating themselves and one said I am Apollos, I am Cephas, I am of Paul, so you can see that man started the separation, not Apostle Paul. We should all be of one Church and that is the Body of Christ who is the Head of the Body. People of today meet in different denominations, but actually Apostle Paul said in the Book of Acts chapter 17 that God's Temple is not made of hands as if he needed anything. Jesus called himself the Temple when he was telling the diciples that the Temple would rise in 3 days, for he rose and so he is the Temple. Also, we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit and we are not buildings. As far as the Jews, they disobeyed God many times and they were the chosen people and the only reason the gentiles got into the fold to receive Salvation is because the Jews disobeyed. Now since the Jews were scattered all over the world after 70 A.D., they now have the same chance to get back into the fold, but the only difference now is that they must accept the Messiah as their Savior and Lord. Hope that this answers what you are concerned about. You know that all the questions that people have brought up to us is in Scripures and it may take some searching to find answers, but God through His Prophets has it all written down for us. God's wisdom through His Word is more than you can imagine. My husband and I are so Blessed when we study His Word.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#210990 Aug 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Mikey, you are being a crude, vulgar idiot again.
The post simply noted that ss couples possess NOTHING that merits the interest of the state. They demand that children be removed from consideration in marriage. Now they want to turn around and claim state interest because they have manufactured default families???
A ss couple ALWAYS deprives a child of a father or mother. A ss couple ALWAYS deprives a child of at least one natural parent.
The latest, largest and most scientific study to date rated lesbian couples LAST, behind single parents out of numerous default family settings. Gay couples didn't even register!!!
...Mikeys not worth responding to...
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#210991 Aug 19, 2013
droid wrote:
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I said I have faith, I never said I was religious and there is different types of sins there are those you can repent of and those you can't. I'm not picking and choosing, because I cant, reason why is because I was not there when Jesus walked this earth.
That was a general statement to all, not directed entirely to you. I respect your reply.
Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#210992 Aug 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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1. Not true and hardly equal. There are immensely far more examples of women being able to vote than there are of ss marriage.
Moreover, you would think there would at least be examples of gay couples, using your example of women.
2. There are examples of interracial marriage in numerous cultures from start to finish. Which only makes the lack of ss couples all the more striking!
3. Again, there are numerous examples of rights for the handicapped in many cultures throughout history. In fact, I think there should be sexually handicapped rights for GLBT's!
4. Now you have gone from ignorant to silly stupid. Belief systems rise and fall on their merit. Hence a few religions have survived. However, not one example of ss couples. While EVERY SINGLE CULTURE IN HUMAN HISTORY HAS MARRIAGE FROM START TO FINISH!
That is incredibly profound! Every single one from start to finish. And not ONE single culture with ss couples being called marriage.
Excellent post, sir, again.
Mugo Pyne

Sonoma, CA

#210993 Aug 19, 2013
lemon murang pie wrote:
August 2013
Tea Party member's must be removed like Nazis and the Nazi party, RNC chair says to the Republican chair person.
August 2013
Yew jes dont git it. We are strong, we are one, we are with the lord and we will defeat all of you in 2016 when our guy will take the election and be president for life and send all of the bums, old farts who didnt save and expect some kinda free ride to the couch with lunch and drinks for free too, and the disabled and them snot nosed kids who demand education above they staion, folks what talk and look wrong.... ALL will be deported so we can build the great wall around christ's kingdom. The lord hates all who dont do what they are told to do and who try to get the taxes on the chiefs and business kings and bother them with reglations and crapola like that what stops the stuff we know we like cause it is what we like. Pack up your carpet bag and git.

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