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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rocky Hudsony

Wooster, OH

#211041 Aug 19, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Why does Big D let that church lady get away with her posts?!
What's up with that? Is his cape in the cleaners or something?
He's too busy communing with a bowl of Chef Boyardee....
suzanne henderson

El Dorado Hills, CA

#211042 Aug 19, 2013
sheesh wrote:
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No, I am not angry. I simply don't think you or anyone else is in a position to jump to conclusions about others you don't know. You acknowledge what I'm saying but don't understand my question.
There are many denominations. They all have a different approach to Christianity. We even have a number of different Bibles. You lean on the King James Version as your source. Yet it is translated from a language where it is often difficult to avoid corruption during translation. Leviticus is a classic example. Specifically that part that is perceived as teaching us that homosexuality is a sin.
V’et-zachar lo tishkav mishk’vei ishah to’evah hu.
V’et - and with
Zachar – male
Lo – no or not
Tishkav - Thou (male) shalt lie down
Mishk’vei – in beds of
Ishah - a woman
to’evah – an abomination
hu – it (masculine – an error kept due to the sacred notion of the text)
The translation becomes more accurately:
And with a male thou shalt not lie down in a woman's bed.
Likewise:
V’ish asher yishkav et-zachar mishk’vei ishah to’evah asu shneihem mot yumatu d’meihem bam becomes:
And a man who will lie down with a male in a woman’s bed, both of them have made an abomination; dying they will be put to death, their blood is on them.
A woman’s bed was considered sacred and to be shared with no one else but her husband. At times he wasn’t even to be there.
We think that King James was translated by 40 scholars and we do know that some of the hebrew words may mean several words in english, but we feel that it is still the most accurate. The subject that we are discussing is homosexuality and we do not refer to much to the old testament, although we do sometimes. Some of the laws were put into the epistles of Paul and he talks about homosexuality being a abomination very clearly in the Book of Romans and actually, that is the chapter we use the most on this subject. In the Book of First Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9, it says and I quote: "Know ye not that the unrigheous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulteres, nor idolaters, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." Also, in First Timothy chapter 1 verses 8-10 and I quote: But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderes of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine." God made it very clear that we should live Holy lives and not partake of sinful things. I know that for our family that things we use to do like go to movies, we do not go anymore because of the content in the movies and also with TV, although we have DirectV, we only watch a very few channels because of all the programs on there that have cussing, homosexuality, adultry etc. We do not have verses of course for these types of entertainment, but that is why God said in the last part of that verse that if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, so we are careful what we watch.
sheesh

Beaverdam, VA

#211043 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
1970....What a year...Teachers dressing like the hippie chicks....
:-D
I was somewhere near finishing elementary school in '70. In the south. The teachers were all matronly in there. Except my first grade teacher. And my 5th grade teacher. He was the only man in a teaching position in the entire school. We all feared him. And our principal. I think she was twelve feet tall and weighed about 700 lbs. She also was rumored to have a paddling machine in her office. I never found out. In reality she was a kind but firm woman. As was my 5th grade teacher. Well, he wasn't a kind but firm woman. He was a kind but firm man. Not many kids gave him a problem. If they did it was usually limited to just once.

That is what is wrong with today's public schools. If you got in trouble at school, you got in trouble at home too. If it was bad enough there was a meeting between your parents and the teacher. Maybe the principal. Then you got in some more trouble at home after that meeting. Now the parents and lawyers come after the teacher while the principal looks at the floor and runs her left big toe in a circle. Then she gets fired for daring to correct someone's innocent little darling. I dunno why anyone wants to become a teacher anymore.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211044 Aug 19, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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If anyone actually believed the study that you continue to cite then courts and children's services programs would be falling all over themselves to extricate kids from same-sex parent homes.
And I always need to point out that a same-sex couple provides better care than foster systems that place children in and out of homes over and over again. Same-sex couples also provide better care than homes where abuse/neglect is present. We provide a service to these children and to the country.
Your move...
You sure post a lot. If I was a neurotic mess I'd time your posts and tell you exactly how often you post.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211045 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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He's too busy communing with a bowl of Chef Boyardee....
I dunno. I can't believe Big D's not here screaming bloody murder that someone other than him is posting about religion.

Pulling his "religion is not a requirement for marriage" bullsh!t. As if anyone said it was.

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iron g

Santa Ana, CA

#211046 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Miss Maracotta....mmmmm...
:-D
Ah! A hot lesbian teacher. Oooh yea!!!
papo

Santa Ana, CA

#211047 Aug 19, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
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We think that King James was translated by 40 scholars and we do know that some of the hebrew words may mean several words in english, but we feel that it is still the most accurate. The subject that we are discussing is homosexuality and we do not refer to much to the old testament, although we do sometimes. Some of the laws were put into the epistles of Paul and he talks about homosexuality being a abomination very clearly in the Book of Romans and actually, that is the chapter we use the most on this subject. In the Book of First Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9, it says and I quote: "Know ye not that the unrigheous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulteres, nor idolaters, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." Also, in First Timothy chapter 1 verses 8-10 and I quote: But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderes of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine." God made it very clear that we should live Holy lives and not partake of sinful things. I know that for our family that things we use to do like go to movies, we do not go anymore because of the content in the movies and also with TV, although we have DirectV, we only watch a very few channels because of all the programs on there that have cussing, homosexuality, adultry etc. We do not have verses of course for these types of entertainment, but that is why God said in the last part of that verse that if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, so we are careful what we watch.
And your still here. If your here then who is out there saving
The human race from evil. Stop posting and get out there or go wash some dishes.
Ramped Up

Monrovia, CA

#211048 Aug 19, 2013
If I write a recommendation for you, the reader would think it's a detailed case study of neurodegenrative disorders.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211049 Aug 19, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
I think that some of the people on the forum may be having high pressure by reading my post!! It really does not bother my husband or myself at all of you are calling me or my husband filthy names or nasty comments, for all we have said is to not read our post and then you will not have a heart attack. It seems as though when we quote Scripture that everybody is in a turmoil. WOW!! Does God's Word bother you that much? Take a break, have a cup a coffee and calm down before you have a stroke. God will still be waiting for you until the end of time. May God Bless your Day!!
Just shutup now, troll. Your fake posts are fooling nobody.
Smickles

Monrovia, CA

#211050 Aug 19, 2013
I noticed you have a handicapped plate on your car.

Is your handicap MENTAL, or what???
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211051 Aug 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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1. Not true and hardly equal. There are immensely far more examples of women being able to vote than there are of ss marriage.
Moreover, you would think there would at least be examples of gay couples, using your example of women.
2. There are examples of interracial marriage in numerous cultures from start to finish. Which only makes the lack of ss couples all the more striking!
3. Again, there are numerous examples of rights for the handicapped in many cultures throughout history. In fact, I think there should be sexually handicapped rights for GLBT's!
4. Now you have gone from ignorant to silly stupid. Belief systems rise and fall on their merit. Hence a few religions have survived. However, not one example of ss couples. While EVERY SINGLE CULTURE IN HUMAN HISTORY HAS MARRIAGE FROM START TO FINISH!
That is incredibly profound! Every single one from start to finish. And not ONE single culture with ss couples being called marriage.
Things change. Deal with it.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211053 Aug 19, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post, sir, again.
You mean ma'am. KiMare is clearly a hermaphrodite or transsexual.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#211054 Aug 19, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I'll take Rocky's advice.
You're dismissed.
You were dismissed 15,300 posts ago.
Blue plastic hanger

Monrovia, CA

#211055 Aug 19, 2013
Remember all you Glendora, California residents Gary Clifford the CFO of Athens Services uses a blue "handy cap" placard or hanger in any vehicle he drives?

The question to him and his wife, Linda Clifford is;

I noticed you have a handicapped plate on your car. Is your handicap MENTAL, or what?

What about your buddy next door Joseph Santoro does he have one too, since he and you are disabled and get a hefty income "tax Free" from here to eternity.

Both of you disabled guys were and or are Glendora, California city councilmen and or Mayor's.

Do you have to b disabled to be on the Glendora city council? Sure seems like it of late, must be a new requirement since Douglas Tessitor and this thugs took over city hall.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#211056 Aug 19, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
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I know that for our family that things we use to do like go to movies, we do not go anymore because of the content in the movies and also with TV, although we have DirectV, we only watch a very few channels because of all the programs on there that have cussing, homosexuality, adultry etc. We do not have verses of course for these types of entertainment, but that is why God said in the last part of that verse that if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, so we are careful what we watch.
How funny, you subscribe to Direct TV, but only watch a few channels. Direct TV shows a lot of TV shows of sinners in action and since you are subscribing, therefore you are giving support to that filth. Shame on you for supporting SIN!
C types

Monrovia, CA

#211057 Aug 19, 2013
Res Alert

Glendora sure has a lot criminal types living there and in city hall.

Remember all you Glendora, California residents Gary Clifford the CFO of Athens Services uses a blue "handy cap" placard or hanger in any vehicle he drives?

The question to him and his wife, Linda Clifford is;

I noticed you have a handicapped plate on your car. Is your handicap MENTAL, or what?

What about your buddy next door Joseph Santoro does he have one too, since he and you are disabled and get a hefty income "tax Free" from here to eternity.

Both of you disabled guys were and or are Glendora, California city councilmen and or Mayor's.

Do you have to b disabled to be on the Glendora city council? Sure seems like it of late, must be a new requirement since Douglas Tessitor and this thugs took over city hall.
sheesh

Capitol Heights, MD

#211058 Aug 19, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
<quoted text>
We think that King James was translated by 40 scholars and we do know that some of the hebrew words may mean several words in english, but we feel that it is still the most accurate. The subject that we are discussing is homosexuality and we do not refer to much to the old testament, although we do sometimes. Some of the laws were put into the epistles of Paul and he talks about homosexuality being a abomination very clearly in the Book of Romans and actually, that is the chapter we use the most on this subject. In the Book of First Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9, it says and I quote: "Know ye not that the unrigheous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulteres, nor idolaters, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." Also, in First Timothy chapter 1 verses 8-10 and I quote: But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderes of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine." God made it very clear that we should live Holy lives and not partake of sinful things. I know that for our family that things we use to do like go to movies, we do not go anymore because of the content in the movies and also with TV, although we have DirectV, we only watch a very few channels because of all the programs on there that have cussing, homosexuality, adultry etc. We do not have verses of course for these types of entertainment, but that is why God said in the last part of that verse that if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, so we are careful what we watch.
I ouk idhate oti adhiki Theou vasilian ou klironomisousin? Mi planasthe; oute porni oute idhololatrai oute mikhi oute malaki oute arsenokitai

King James version of the above:
Or haven’t you known that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be misled; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor soft ones nor those who lie with males
Let us focus on “soft ones nor those who lie with males.”

Malaki is translated to mean soft ones. In the ancient Greek language it is a reference to the soft or fine clothing that would be worn by the wealthy. See Luke 7:25 where Jesus asks if anyone had expected to see anyone dressed in fine clothing in the wilderness.
Arsenokitai is a word not found anywhere but the Bible where it occurs twice (it doesn’t appear anywhere else in ancient literature with a definite article, i.e. feminine I or masculine o or os). It appears to be a word that Paul coined himself. It is a combination of the noun arsin (male) and kit (a dervative of the verb kimei - lie down). Of note is the way the word ends, in an i. If it ended in o or os it would be masculine (men who lie with men), but it ends in the feminine article i. This suggest Paul was referring to women who lie with men. A condemnation of promiscuity for women.
Smurf toys

Monrovia, CA

#211060 Aug 19, 2013
A note to all you Glendora, California residents Gary Clifford the CFO of Athens Services uses a blue "handy cap" placard or hanger in any vehicle he drives? He takes home a 6 figure plus income, Linda the licensed private eye likes that too.

The question to him and his wife, Linda Clifford is? She has had several citizen complaints lodge4d against her, but the Glendora Police Department come to her rescue and clear her (meaning they lose the report).

I noticed you have a handicapped plate on your car. Is your handicap MENTAL, or what?

What about your buddy next door Joseph Santoro does he have one too, since he and you are disabled and get a hefty income "tax Free" from here to eternity.

Both of you disabled guys were and or are Glendora, California city councilmen and or Mayor's.
commonpeeps

Covina, CA

#211061 Aug 19, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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My mommy used to give me pop tarts when I was a little jackass like you too. Heartwarming.
Aaahhh those were the good times, right?
suzanne henderson

El Dorado Hills, CA

#211063 Aug 20, 2013
sheesh wrote:
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I ouk idhate oti adhiki Theou vasilian ou klironomisousin? Mi planasthe; oute porni oute idhololatrai oute mikhi oute malaki oute arsenokitai
King James version of the above:
Or haven’t you known that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be misled; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor soft ones nor those who lie with males
Let us focus on “soft ones nor those who lie with males.”
Malaki is translated to mean soft ones. In the ancient Greek language it is a reference to the soft or fine clothing that would be worn by the wealthy. See Luke 7:25 where Jesus asks if anyone had expected to see anyone dressed in fine clothing in the wilderness.
Arsenokitai is a word not found anywhere but the Bible where it occurs twice (it doesn’t appear anywhere else in ancient literature with a definite article, i.e. feminine I or masculine o or os). It appears to be a word that Paul coined himself. It is a combination of the noun arsin (male) and kit (a dervative of the verb kimei - lie down). Of note is the way the word ends, in an i. If it ended in o or os it would be masculine (men who lie with men), but it ends in the feminine article i. This suggest Paul was referring to women who lie with men. A condemnation of promiscuity for women.
My husband and I will check this out, for we have a greek and hebrew dictionary. We do feel that Romans Chapter 1 makes it very clear about homsexuality. These are the verses that we use most of the time. What would be your interpertation of these verses in Romans? We look up greek and hebrew words quite often. We do know that God did not create homosexuals & he would not of created anything that was not perfect. We believe that it is man's sins from the beginning that started sin no matter what it is. Somebody told me earlier that God made homosexuals and I said then, God would have made women to have abortions, children born blind or no limbs. I know personally that there was a medicine that women were taking when they were pregnant many years ago and it was for nausea and I did not take it myself when I was pregnant, but lots of babies were born without limbs. So did God create that? Absolutely Not. This was man's doing. We believe that God created everything perfect and then because of sin, man did sins as time went on and diseases and illnesses came along because of sin and we both know the diseases of homosexuality. I did a research on the second world war and they came up with 9 diseases with homosexuals only. I wrote some material awhile back about this subject. Also, man was so wicked during the time of Sodom and Gomorrah that God destroyed both of those cities. The word sodomy came from Sodom and we know what that means. Anyway thats for your information and we will do our research.

I will not be writing back any individuals from now on. I will write my comments on the forum. It is causing to much confusion and I do not to direct anything that I write to any certain person. There is so much bad language, personal attacks and things that are so bad that in our opinion, we have never witnessed anything like this forum. I write alot of letters to alot of forums from time to

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