Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Only a minor step up from Faux News
http://stateofthemedia.org/2013/special-repor...
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It's as irrelevant to this discussion as my MS geology is. You brought your hobby up in an attempt to patronize me.
Nope I was reminding Ricardo that I am invited to schools to talk about what I would talk about, while I could have him arrested for talking about what he would talk about.

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We do teach science in schools, I am even invited to a few on specific aspects of science. I have worked with schools and even some church groups on Astronomy
Come on over, stand up and smite me ( chuckle ) you may be in for a bit of a shock when you try.
Astronomy doesn't mean there is no God.

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I donít have a religion, I am not bound by any kind of faith at all, someone shows me actual evidence, that has been through extensive peer review and I will happily take it into consideration.
You can go back to your magic tree, talking snake, and rib woman
First off, I'm not attacking you with this message... Honestly, I'm not.

Secondly, I doubt that many Christians are literal ineterpretationists when it comes to the fables and stories found in Christian scripture.

The original story tellers of the day didn't have the scientific knowledge about biology, chemistry, physics, or the other sciences that we have had for the past few centuries.

They used their vivid imaginations to metaphorically describe how they believed God created the universe.

That being said, do I believe in God--a creator? Yes I do.

I don't know whether God looks like me or has thoughts like me, but I believe in a creating force that made the universe. Something, no matter how far removed from looking human, created the world.

Regarding Christianity, I like it as a religion--as a philosophy. I look at the words that Christ was reported to have said and like what I see.

"Love your neighbor as you love yourself." "Whatever you have done to the least of these people of mine, you have done unto me. Love your enemy as you love yourself. Turn the other cheek."

Those are some AMAZING words to live by--right? If we all just followed a couple of rules about how to treat one another, none of us would be fighting. There would be no wars--no murders--no attacks out of some sense to seek revenge--no stealing...

Finally, I do believe in a "Holy Spirit". Don't ask me to describe it. I've never seen it, touched it, heard it, etc. But I have felt it.

During the disastrous part of my life when I denied my orientation out of fear of God's wrath (I was a young adult), I prayed for guidance. And something--no idea what it was--"gave me permission" to be the person that I believe God created me to me (i.e. a gay man). The peace and joy that I felt that day is almost indescribable.

Now, at some point in the future, psychologists and neurologists may very well find the part of our brains that allow us to give ourselves permission to do things that we intrinsically know are right. Perhaps that sense of euphoria that I felt was nothing more than brain chemistry.

Who knows? I don't.

Faith allows me to make some kind of sense of those aspects of the world that I do not understand. And I think faith has been used similarly by mankind for eons.

I just wanted to explain myself to you and to anyone else interested in my thoughts on the matter.

Good GOD I can be long-winded. But it's how I communicate. Maybe one day I'll learn to be concise.

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You are free to believe in the magic tree, rib woman and talking snake all you like, this is America and I will treat you with the exact same respect I treat volcano worshipers and Scientologists
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As long as you donít try to toss any virgins into volcanos, or deny same sex couples rights, but when you politicize your religion, you are open to fire from every direction. You have lost your innocence and have demoted your belief system into a political party... like Tea Baggers
when you politicize your atheist religion, you are open to fire from every direction. You have lost your innocence and have demoted your belief system into a political party... liberalism is a mental disorder.

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Many also fear the great Rose_NoHo's disapproval. She's almost as hateful as Big D when it comes to religion.
And of course old Jizzybird/Apollo911 or whatever with his bowl of spaghetti that flies doesn't understand the irony.
I wonder how long hemp head will be confined this time? Seemed like he got 90 days last time.
Frankie Rizzo

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Nope I was reminding Ricardo that I am invited to schools to talk about what I would talk about, while I could have him arrested for talking about what he would talk about.
Just don't start harping on religion when you're boring the kiddies. Then I'd have to pull my Superman schtick on you. YUK!YUK!YUK!

Because spewing your hate against religion is against truth, justice and the American way!

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First off, I'm not attacking you with this message... Honestly, I'm not.
Secondly, I doubt that many Christians are literal ineterpretationists when it comes to the fables and stories found in Christian scripture.......
Thank you V, I was wrong about you.
Frankie Rizzo

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First off, I'm not attacking you with this message... Honestly, I'm not.
Secondly, I doubt that many Christians are literal ineterpretationists when it comes to the fables and stories found in Christian scripture.
The original story tellers of the day didn't have the scientific knowledge about biology, chemistry, physics, or the other sciences that we have had for the past few centuries.
They used their vivid imaginations to metaphorically describe how they believed God created the universe.
That being said, do I believe in God--a creator? Yes I do.
I don't know whether God looks like me or has thoughts like me, but I believe in a creating force that made the universe. Something, no matter how far removed from looking human, created the world.
Regarding Christianity, I like it as a religion--as a philosophy. I look at the words that Christ was reported to have said and like what I see.
"Love your neighbor as you love yourself." "Whatever you have done to the least of these people of mine, you have done unto me. Love your enemy as you love yourself. Turn the other cheek."
Those are some AMAZING words to live by--right? If we all just followed a couple of rules about how to treat one another, none of us would be fighting. There would be no wars--no murders--no attacks out of some sense to seek revenge--no stealing...
Finally, I do believe in a "Holy Spirit". Don't ask me to describe it. I've never seen it, touched it, heard it, etc. But I have felt it.
During the disastrous part of my life when I denied my orientation out of fear of God's wrath (I was a young adult), I prayed for guidance. And something--no idea what it was--"gave me permission" to be the person that I believe God created me to me (i.e. a gay man). The peace and joy that I felt that day is almost indescribable.
Now, at some point in the future, psychologists and neurologists may very well find the part of our brains that allow us to give ourselves permission to do things that we intrinsically know are right. Perhaps that sense of euphoria that I felt was nothing more than brain chemistry.
Who knows? I don't.
Faith allows me to make some kind of sense of those aspects of the world that I do not understand. And I think faith has been used similarly by mankind for eons.
I just wanted to explain myself to you and to anyone else interested in my thoughts on the matter.
Good GOD I can be long-winded. But it's how I communicate. Maybe one day I'll learn to be concise.
You're a very thoughtful and reasonable man. Totally out of place on this thread! But very worthy of respect. I wish you the best.
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Guessing is exactly what you are doing, you are in no position to judge
And you are in no position to talk Big D...!
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<quoted text>I wonder how long hemp head will be confined this time? Seemed like he got 90 days last time.
They'll probably hold him until they get him stabilized again. Then he'll be back manic as ever. Wish they'd teach him grammar while they've got his attention.
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I know this is going to sound like a bunch of bologna, but if there is no God, then how do you explain our existence and who we are and where we go when we die. How do you explain the paranormal if everything now is looked at from a scientific point of view? I have personally experienced paranormal activity and I do so on a regular basis! I live in an apartment out in the country, and the guy who lived there before me commited suicide in my livingroom after he got diagnosed with MS, he couldn't handle living as a vegetable when he was so active, and strong and put a gun to his head. I have seen shit,m heard shit all of that! I wouldn't say my house is haunted but he definetly pops in every now and then. Especially because his parents share the other side of the house. Its a duplex. Explain that to me if there is no God, no spirits none of that!

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You're a very thoughtful and reasonable man. Totally out of place on this thread! But very worthy of respect. I wish you the best.
sorry... you're right... I probably should have privately messaged him.
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They'll probably hold him until they get him stabilized again. Then he'll be back manic as ever. Wish they'd teach him grammar while they've got his attention.
Hemp head? What you guys are for ame sex marriage but you're against marijuana. Its legal there now too. I don't have a problem with pot but everything is legal in california! Before you know it cocaine and meth will be legal too!
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Just don't start harping on religion when you're boring the kiddies. Then I'd have to pull my Superman schtick on you. YUK!YUK!YUK!
Because spewing your hate against religion is against truth, justice and the American way!
Oh there are quite a few political parties I strongly disagree wiht, when Christianity became one, they opened themselves to the same treatement

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Not just a single religion, all of the holy texts from EVERY religion describe marriage as male/female.
My point is that in this country we DON'T make laws based on religion!! Get that through your thick skull!!!
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I know this is going to sound like a bunch of bologna, but if there is no God, then how do you explain our existence and who we are and where we go when we die. How do you explain the paranormal if everything now is looked at from a scientific point of view? I have personally experienced paranormal activity and I do so on a regular basis! I live in an apartment out in the country, and the guy who lived there before me commited suicide in my livingroom after he got diagnosed with MS, he couldn't handle living as a vegetable when he was so active, and strong and put a gun to his head. I have seen shit,m heard shit all of that! I wouldn't say my house is haunted but he definetly pops in every now and then. Especially because his parents share the other side of the house. Its a duplex. Explain that to me if there is no God, no spirits none of that!
The simple answer is, if we donít know something, some of us are confident enough to not have to make something up to explain it.

I donít have to pretend in Santa Claus to be an answer for things I do not know.

I have had experiences that are beyond what current science can explain myself, but that does not mean I have to buy someoneís made up explanations either.

Man has believed in literally billions of Gods, but I think it is time we grew up. Yes there are things we donít know, but we donít need to believe in Peter Pan because we donít know something.
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My point is that in this country we DON'T make laws based on religion!! Get that through your thick skull!!!
actually virtually every ' law ',...
in America and throughout the world ,
are precisely mirrored and based on, religious morals and long held beliefs
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BIG johnson wrote:
<quoted text>actually virtually every ' law ',...
in America and throughout the world ,
are precisely mirrored and based on, religious morals and long held beliefs
Wrong

USA law is based on English law which was based on Roman law which was largely borrowed from Greek law which origin outdates any current religion today.
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Oh there are quite a few political parties I strongly disagree wiht, when Christianity became one, they opened themselves to the same treatement
Christianity is a political party? I never saw them on the ballot. Who was their candidate for president?

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