Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183290 Mar 13, 2013
right on wrote:
<quoted text>It is disgusting that we have come to this point in our decrepit society that we actually consider allowing men to marry men and women to marry women. I cannot wait for the return of God.
I'm not pushing the religious side of this, just the common sense part of it, so I agree with you...

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183291 Mar 13, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Marriage isn't about evolution?
Really.
Marriage has nothing to do with evolutionary mating behavior?
Marriage has no correlation to procreation?

2. Of course heterosexuals have offspring outside of marriage.
To the immediate and devastating consequences for the child.
3. I made no such claim about a 'piece of paper'. Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. It does not need a 'piece of paper'.
4. I did not base my one man/one woman on evolution. I based it on the cross cultural 'constraint' of marriage. That means marriage restricts the drive of evolutionary mating behavior primarily for the sake of the child.
Social scientist surmise that marriage would not exist if it were not for the desire of humans to maintain contact with their child and pursue that child's best interests.
5. Legal equality is not possible, since gay couples are a direct defective contradiction to evolution's primary goal. Literally 'unmarriage'!
However, legal rights for gay couples are available through other means without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage.
Welcome back VV.
Smirk.
Speaking of imposer...humans only have 23 pairs of chromosomes. How many do you have?
Should you have been aborted?
LOL!
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183293 Mar 13, 2013
NE Jade wrote:
<quoted text>Oh that great story where Lot's wife turned into a large salt lick, and his two daughters took him up into a cave, got him drunk, and boinked their father silly? Great family values story!
Silly thing, it's not a "family values story", it's a comparison. Dopey Jade....
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183294 Mar 13, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. Con dumb parroting. You don't even know what socialism is! Why are you against the Constitution and equal rights?
Yes, why don't you describe socialism to us, while staying on-topic?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183295 Mar 13, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of imposer...humans only have 23 pairs of chromosomes. How many do you have?
Should you have been aborted?
LOL!
Oh yes, that's VERY on-topic. Why don't you spin the propeller on your beanie while you describe socialism to us?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183297 Mar 13, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yes, that's VERY on-topic. Why don't you spin the propeller on your beanie while you describe socialism to us?
Here's a clue, fuckwit, use Amerikkka as a model, because the politicians own all the business that matter, anyway.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183298 Mar 13, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of imposer...humans only have 23 pairs of chromosomes. How many do you have?
Should you have been aborted?
LOL!
Well, we know that YOU were aborted, anyway...
respect authority

Klamath Falls, OR

#183299 Mar 13, 2013
U R A L I A R wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you were in charge of the CHC!
far from it,

i was homeless and in the Christian Help Center because i would not sleep with the manager of my apartments, i could have been the assistant manager but I would not sleep with him and he ended up running off with the company's 10,000 rent money but they caught him in Mexico.
respect authority

Klamath Falls, OR

#183300 Mar 13, 2013
U R A L I A R wrote:
<quoted text>
Enough of your magical atheist Nazi fantasies!:( Now you have Oblunder, you can move into the future!
no, i am stating that the homeless are subject to abuse, like free showers for the jews,
Francis

Covina, CA

#183301 Mar 13, 2013
No need to ask, thaq answer is the same!

No! and Hill No!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183302 Mar 13, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yes, that's VERY on-topic. Why don't you spin the propeller on your beanie while you describe socialism to us?
WTF are you going on about, Bigfoot? Socialism?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#183303 Mar 13, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Marriage isn't about evolution?
Really.
Marriage has nothing to do with evolutionary mating behavior?
Marriage has no correlation to procreation?
2. Of course heterosexuals have offspring outside of marriage.
To the immediate and devastating consequences for the child.
3. I made no such claim about a 'piece of paper'. Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. It does not need a 'piece of paper'.
4. I did not base my one man/one woman on evolution. I based it on the cross cultural 'constraint' of marriage. That means marriage restricts the drive of evolutionary mating behavior primarily for the sake of the child.
Social scientist surmise that marriage would not exist if it were not for the desire of humans to maintain contact with their child and pursue that child's best interests.
5. Legal equality is not possible, since gay couples are a direct defective contradiction to evolution's primary goal. Literally 'unmarriage'!
However, legal rights for gay couples are available through other means without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage.
Welcome back VV.
Smirk.
I didn't mean to imply that marriage is devoid of offspring.

However, given that many marriages do not involve procreation, offspring is not the center of all marriages. The number of childless adult women has been on the increase since the 1970s.(According to 2004 U.S. Census Bureau data, the proportion of childless women 15 to 44 years old was 44.6 percent, up from 35 percent in 1976.)

Even marriage is on the decline. In 1960, 72% of all adults ages 18 and older were married; today that figure has fallen to 51%.

It's so simple that even a fool like you should be able to understand that.

As you very well know, procreation is so legally detached from marriage that it isn't even listed on a marriage certificate.

And if marriage were truly about procreation, then why hasn’t the “cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior” phenomenon that you keep regurgitating led to across the board divorces once children have been raised or once couples are beyond the age (or medical ability) to procreate?

Look, as has been REPEATEDLY been pointed out to you, people get married for a variety of reasons. Child rearing is just one reason. Other reasons include love, money, lust, family pressure, personal pressure, etc. And that’s just in our culture. In other cultures people get married as a part of arrangements to wed entire families or tribes.

In this country we’re free to marry for whatever reason we wish. The government may say WHO we can marry, but it cannot dictate WHY we marry.

And if same-gender couples wish to marry, there is no legitimate legal reason to keep us from doing so.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#183304 Mar 13, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
The new Pope Francis (St Francis of Assisi) isn't going to be giving San Francisco (St Francis of Assisi) gays any slack. He's conservative and hardline and will be keeping an eye on what's going on around here......
http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-c...
Bergoglio is seen an unwaveringly orthodox on matters of sexual morality, staunchly opposing abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception. In 2010 he asserted that gay adoption is a form of discrimination against children.
Who F'n cares? I'm not Catholic, or even a recovering Catholic. The opinions of a minister/pastor (and that's all he is) have no bearing on my life, my husband's life, or our children's lives.

Did you have some point here with your post????
NoHorn

Covina, CA

#183305 Mar 13, 2013
That crazy Chavez.

leftist president Hugo Chavez's recent death must have played into the selection of the first Latin American pope.

Hugo was nothing more than a tin-horn dictator.
Prop 8 Unconstitutional

Beacon, NY

#183306 Mar 14, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, sweets, we don't need to do that, at all. It's you who must show compelling need for changing the existing laws.
And so sorry "Sweets and OH great ignorant one but that has already been done in California by 2 courts now and this summer the Supreme court will again confirm it! Gays have the right to "Equal treatment" under the law and as it now stands they simply don't,but come June they will once and for all! You don't have to like it but you will have to live with it,so sad to bad hate boy!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#183307 Mar 14, 2013
Lien Sale wrote:
MurrayÂ’s budget would raise $975 billion in tax revenue by closing corporate and individual tax loopholes.
Kill the rich and we all be wealthy! Say the Liberals!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#183308 Mar 14, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't mean to imply that marriage is devoid of offspring.
However, given that many marriages do not involve procreation, offspring is not the center of all marriages. The number of childless adult women has been on the increase since the 1970s.(According to 2004 U.S. Census Bureau data, the proportion of childless women 15 to 44 years old was 44.6 percent, up from 35 percent in 1976.)
Even marriage is on the decline. In 1960, 72% of all adults ages 18 and older were married; today that figure has fallen to 51%.
It's so simple that even a fool like you should be able to understand that.
As you very well know, procreation is so legally detached from marriage that it isn't even listed on a marriage certificate.
And if marriage were truly about procreation, then why hasn’t the “cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior” phenomenon that you keep regurgitating led to across the board divorces once children have been raised or once couples are beyond the age (or medical ability) to procreate?
Look, as has been REPEATEDLY been pointed out to you, people get married for a variety of reasons. Child rearing is just one reason. Other reasons include love, money, lust, family pressure, personal pressure, etc. And that’s just in our culture. In other cultures people get married as a part of arrangements to wed entire families or tribes.
In this country we’re free to marry for whatever reason we wish. The government may say WHO we can marry, but it cannot dictate WHY we marry.
And if same-gender couples wish to marry, there is no legitimate legal reason to keep us from doing so.
You were trying to imply that children are not an integral part of marriage. In that foolish attempt, your deceitful exaggeration was exposed.

It is again.

You make my case;

By your own stats, as child bearing declines, so does marriage. A clear and undeniable correlation that as you put it, even a fool should be able to see...

Then you make the silly assertion that child bearing 'should be included on the marriage license'. Ignoring the fact that some states still require blood tests because to the potential, why would they? If children need government permission, why not sex? What about eating together? Using the same bathroom??? Your gay twirl is sooooo silly...

Just a note, divorces do rise after children are adults. Moreover, the argument for no-fault divorce was that 'staying together for the children' was not a good reason. What happened? Divorce skyrocketed and social health of children plummeted. You should know this as a 'social worker'...

The government has to have a prevailing reason to determine who can marry. There is one for the fundamental building block of society; families. There is none for discriminatory support of some friendships between a arbitrary number of people.

Bazinga!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#183309 Mar 14, 2013
VV, maybe this analogy will help your foolishness;

The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;

An apple tree bearing fruit.
An apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
An walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
An walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.

The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too is simply silly.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.

Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship. Hardly a cause for government interest, let alone selective discrimination.

You are welcome.

Smile.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#183310 Mar 14, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't mean to imply that marriage is devoid of offspring.
However, given that many marriages do not involve procreation, offspring is not the center of all marriages. The number of childless adult women has been on the increase since the 1970s.(According to 2004 U.S. Census Bureau data, the proportion of childless women 15 to 44 years old was 44.6 percent, up from 35 percent in 1976.)
Even marriage is on the decline. In 1960, 72% of all adults ages 18 and older were married; today that figure has fallen to 51%.
It's so simple that even a fool like you should be able to understand that.
As you very well know, procreation is so legally detached from marriage that it isn't even listed on a marriage certificate.
And if marriage were truly about procreation, then why hasn’t the “cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior” phenomenon that you keep regurgitating led to across the board divorces once children have been raised or once couples are beyond the age (or medical ability) to procreate?
Look, as has been REPEATEDLY been pointed out to you, people get married for a variety of reasons. Child rearing is just one reason. Other reasons include love, money, lust, family pressure, personal pressure, etc. And that’s just in our culture. In other cultures people get married as a part of arrangements to wed entire families or tribes.
In this country we’re free to marry for whatever reason we wish. The government may say WHO we can marry, but it cannot dictate WHY we marry.
And if same-gender couples wish to marry, there is no legitimate legal reason to keep us from doing so.
If procreation is removed from marriage, either as a motivation to marry, or as a government interest in marriage, what is left? Why does it need government recognition, and/or involvement?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183311 Mar 14, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
If procreation is removed from marriage, either as a motivation to marry, or as a government interest in marriage, what is left? Why does it need government recognition, and/or involvement?
The Taliban has an opening for you, you would like it there.

Religion is mandated, anyone not conforming to social norms is not tolerated and harshly punished.

Just your style

I prefer the land of the free, where equality and justice is more important, but that is just me.

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