Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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I think that you are not reading. You are reacting, without true understanding. I have already answered your questions as to belief in God, and also explained my stance against homosexuality. Agnosticism cannot be a religion because, by its very nature, it denies the plausibility of religious belief.
I wasn't saying whether it was a religion, I was saying you believe God could exist then you should be careful in how you treat him, and not to wake him up! And gay rights doesn't mean polygamy, different fools could have different ideas about gay rights, and some could believe one should be only bound to someone of the same sex or opposite sex. But you aren't stupid enough for such generalizations were you? You were only using that "generalization" as an excuse not to defend monogamy weren't you?
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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Because polygamy and incest are as ridiculous as homosexuality, yet the gays argue that gayness is correct, but incest and polygamy are not, and I am highlighting their hypocrisy, when they respond to this conundrum. Don't you understand the subtlety at work here ? LOL, catch on to the game, will you ?
Yes, but they might have their own reasons for believing that incest and polygamy is wrong. That generalization was really an excuse wasn't it?
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I posted those, and, BAM! Banned. Unless my ban was the result of Chongo, and the censors love of him...
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You do realize that Mr. Hudson and I are not the same person? While both of us are reasonable and intelligent men, we are quite different in that I support same sex marriage and Mr. Hudson does not.
This is a discussion forum, if we censor out differing opinions, you'll have nothing to whine about and it would be boring. What, you're gonna talk amongst your self about redecorating tips?
Mr. Hudson and I have the same right to express our opinions as you Fruitloops. You have no right or authority to tell us different.
So you are a complete traitor to Gods word now? Being an agnostic does not make it an excuse as normal integrity of an agnostic would accept that God could exist and that he shouldn't be betrayed.
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By the way, Large, you are firing blindly into the crowd. Please select your targets with more accuracy.
And I have already made my own targets, since you are against Christ, you have been targeted not by me, but by God.
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Aw shuddup you silly jackass you're boring me.
I think if there is a God I have to answer to one day, he will like me for not being a sheep and thinking clearly for myself with the brain he gave me.
What point is there in being able to think at a high rate but yet unable to appreciate or love anything and have any value? What a narcissist stupid little statement. He won't favour you if you don't support rightiousness and beauty, will he?
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I find that if you start winning an argument with certain posters you will be censored. Some of my finest work has disappeared. Often only a few posts will be missing, Then of course you get the whole banishment and you are disappeared like some third world dictatorship headed by a bizarre megalomaniac homosexual.
When I see no bad judge-its or responses on my posts, I know I'm getting shadow banned.
You pick your moments to be friendly! How come you only called me stupid when I gone against you? And before, you called the people who disagreed with me stupid and dopey, so somehow I was right once but now you can decide when someone is wrong?

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What is hilarious is that the verbosity of your posts. You seem to have a need to sound intelligent. You're also using words with negative connotation just for the sake of throwing in negative spin. And it makes you seem really dumb. Or can you explain how permitting a small portion of the population access to marriage is "gender apartheid?"
I'll try to use short words so sheesh can follow. Gays have always had access to marriage under the same rules as everyone else. Meredith Baxter and Oscar Wilde are two examples.

Same sex marriage doesn't include more of the population, intersex, gays, lesbians, transgenders, and bisexuals have always married. Same sex marriage creates a new standard of marriage that include gender segregation. Apartheid is just a long word for discrimination and separatism: policies that same sex marriage supporters support.

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In all honesty I don't expect an explanation. You generally aren't capable of giving one.
I find Sheesh isn't able to keep up with the argument, generally. I hope I prove him wrong.

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Gender diversity? If you count only male and female you're limited to two genders.
Most same sex marriage supporters don't understand human nature; male and female genders are all there are.

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If you include intersex, gays, lesbians, transgenders, and bisexuals you've got 5 more. That is diversity.
Sheesh is confusing gender with orientation. I find most same sex marriage supporters are confused by any argument that doesn't rely on emotions so they can feel good about themselves.
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<quoted text>I'll try to use short words so sheesh can follow. Gays have always had access to marriage under the same rules as everyone else. Meredith Baxter and Oscar Wilde are two examples.
Same sex marriage doesn't include more of the population, intersex, gays, lesbians, transgenders, and bisexuals have always married. Same sex marriage creates a new standard of marriage that include gender segregation. Apartheid is just a long word for discrimination and separatism: policies that same sex marriage supporters support.
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<quoted text>I find Sheesh isn't able to keep up with the argument, generally. I hope I prove him wrong.
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<quoted text>Most same sex marriage supporters don't understand human nature; male and female genders are all there are.
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<quoted text>Sheesh is confusing gender with orientation. I find most same sex marriage supporters are confused by any argument that doesn't rely on emotions so they can feel good about themselves.
The standard constitution only allowed the opposite sex. Gay rights are being overturned in the states, originally they weren't allowed. The american constitution comes from the british inhabitants who would have religion.
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I wasn't saying whether it was a religion, I was saying you believe God could exist then you should be careful in how you treat him, and not to wake him up! And gay rights doesn't mean polygamy, different fools could have different ideas about gay rights, and some could believe one should be only bound to someone of the same sex or opposite sex. But you aren't stupid enough for such generalizations were you? You were only using that "generalization" as an excuse not to defend monogamy weren't you?
If I read your post correctly, you are saying gay marriage rights are to be separated from polygamists rights, yes ? I see them both as erosion factors, in the destruction of societal fabric. If we are going to allow gays to marry, then why not allow anything, at all ? My position is that allowing gay people to marry is tantamount to having no meaning to the term "married". That if we allow gays to marry, but not polygamists, then we are merely lowering the bar a little bit, in the name of equality, but not truly embracing equality. Exercising the same discrimination that the gays are arguing against, but at a different level.
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Yes, but they might have their own reasons for believing that incest and polygamy is wrong. That generalization was really an excuse wasn't it?
No, it wasn't. It is the embracing of "true equality", at it's basest level. The final breakdown of the centuries of refinement that we have striven for. It's no excuse, it's the arrival at the final destination that SSM is driving at, whether they like it, or not. If we lower the bar for them, then we must lower it all the way. Remove it completely. Else, we are taking half steps. Saying that"Group A can have what it wants, but not Group B". Where is the equality in that ?
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Yes, but they might have their own reasons for believing that incest and polygamy is wrong. That generalization was really an excuse wasn't it?
And, what does it matter if "they" have their reasons for for believing that incest and polygamy are wrong ? We heterosexuals had our reasons for believing that SSM is wrong, but "they" have told us to go to hell. "They" decided that what "they" wanted was OK, but now, "they" wish to say that what others want is not ? Unacceptable. Prejudicial and discriminatory, as "they" were whining about, only yesterday, "unfair" "they" said, but now, it is fine for them to set the bar against others ? No sir, if we allow any changes at all, then why waste any more time with silly standards ?
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Blatantly "I'm all right, Jack...", wouldn't you say ?
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And I have already made my own targets, since you are against Christ, you have been targeted not by me, but by God.
If you are here to further the ends of Christianity, you are in the wrong place. I feel no targeting, merely point out that you seem to have no specific aim, except preaching the good word.
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You pick your moments to be friendly! How come you only called me stupid when I gone against you? And before, you called the people who disagreed with me stupid and dopey, so somehow I was right once but now you can decide when someone is wrong?
He and I have been getting along the whole time that we have been posting, not arbitrarily picking when to agree. He has adopted the same position that I have, re you. Letting you have your way, as long as it provided the amusement that we all in here for. Like the Springer Show. You have started to post against him, and he has checked you, when necessary. Pick your targets better, and I am sure he will allow you to exist peacefully. Snap at the time, and in the wrong direction, and you will be kicked.
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I find that if you start winning an argument with certain posters you will be censored. Some of my finest work has disappeared. Often only a few posts will be missing, Then of course you get the whole banishment and you are disappeared like some third world dictatorship headed by a bizarre megalomaniac homosexual.
When I see no bad judge-its or responses on my posts, I know I'm getting shadow banned.
Yep, same here...Then I check on the forum, through Internet Explorer, and find that I am absent, and it is done. Banned. Censored, just like that.
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If I read your post correctly, you are saying gay marriage rights are to be separated from polygamists rights, yes ? I see them both as erosion factors, in the destruction of societal fabric. If we are going to allow gays to marry, then why not allow anything, at all ? My position is that allowing gay people to marry is tantamount to having no meaning to the term "married". That if we allow gays to marry, but not polygamists, then we are merely lowering the bar a little bit, in the name of equality, but not truly embracing equality. Exercising the same discrimination that the gays are arguing against, but at a different level.
Of course. But some pro gay fools don't see that it isn't marriage, due to their own folly. Some fools think homosexuals are able to get in a proper marriage, so they still support polygamy. Polygamy and homosexuality are still not proper marriages but for completety different reasons. You should have saw this, so I believe in fact you are lying to cover it up!

Some however aren't like this, and simply allow it for the sake of "equality", like rose!
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See there you go again Squeaky. Insults. Then you ask why I am mean to you.
Too funny!
How was that an insult? Are you now trying to use more excuses and pretending to refute my claims?
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See there you go again Squeaky. Insults. Then you ask why I am mean to you.
Too funny!
Not like sheep, but can think freely? Just like darwinism, I'm sure you really want to side with the atheists and have sex with satan!
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No, it wasn't. It is the embracing of "true equality", at it's basest level. The final breakdown of the centuries of refinement that we have striven for. It's no excuse, it's the arrival at the final destination that SSM is driving at, whether they like it, or not. If we lower the bar for them, then we must lower it all the way. Remove it completely. Else, we are taking half steps. Saying that"Group A can have what it wants, but not Group B". Where is the equality in that ?
Only lying Rose said she supported gay rights because of "equality" and nothing else. Try again!

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