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Hotel workers' wages, election dates up for voters' consideration

There are 24 comments on the Press-Telegram story from Oct 20, 2012, titled Hotel workers' wages, election dates up for voters' consideration. In it, Press-Telegram reports that:

Voters will decide next month on a bid to raise hotel workers' wages in Long Beach and a proposal to shift the dates of elections for city officials to align with larger state and national contests.

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Bob Lewis

AOL

#1 Oct 21, 2012
This is a great new Law. Illegals should make more than Americans who work for minimum wage in other parts of the Country. If the cost forces already struggling Long Beach Convention Hotels to Close their Doors at last they can become new Housing Projects targeted for the "undocumented" who so graciously choose to illegally colonize Long Beach.

This could also ruin our Convention Center business which will serve City Halls mission to drive more jobs out of the City and put even more people on public assistance.

It's a win win for City Hall and Sacramento! Everyone knows that the more hopeless, useless, and pitiful a citizen feels about themselves the more apt they are to Vote for anyTHING with a D beside it's name on a Ballot in what remains of California.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#2 Oct 21, 2012
Bob Lewis wrote:
This is a great new Law. Illegals should make more than Americans who work for minimum wage in other parts of the Country. If the cost forces already struggling Long Beach Convention Hotels to Close their Doors at last they can become new Housing Projects targeted for the "undocumented" who so graciously choose to illegally colonize Long Beach.

This could also ruin our Convention Center business which will serve City Halls mission to drive more jobs out of the City and put even more people on public assistance.

It's a win win for City Hall and Sacramento! Everyone knows that the more hopeless, useless, and pitiful a citizen feels about themselves the more apt they are to Vote for anyTHING with a D beside it's name on a Ballot in what remains of California.
Only the poor and stupid vote for a democrat
Tiffany

United States

#3 Oct 22, 2012
Shouldn't a hotel workers wages be between them, the hotel and (maybe) their union. Why the f**k is this even on the ballot. it's none of our business.
Stan R

Long Beach, CA

#4 Oct 22, 2012
Tiffany wrote:
Shouldn't a hotel workers wages be between them, the hotel and (maybe) their union. Why the f**k is this even on the ballot. it's none of our business.
Californians aren't smart enough or rational enough to make valid political choices. We voted for politicians who are owned by the unions and have decimated our State's financial future by awarding the most expensive public employee union scams ever perpetrated on current and future generations of any State's citizen population. Pitiful losers who ignored the Union Warning Label on politicians should expect pathetic out comes as their just reward.
Danish Thorazine

Long Beach, CA

#5 Nov 1, 2012
I say pay them each $100.00 per hour, and an additional $50.00 for each anchor baby that they squirt out. Why, in a short amount of time, they'll be California's newest millionaires. Livin da American Dreem.
SP Landlord

United States

#6 Nov 2, 2012
Support this measure. It is honorable and just.
With the exorbitant profits in the luxury hotel business they can afford. Fat Cat big corp in the high end Hotel business has been abusing housekeeping staff forever. These maids are meek, humble and hard workers. The salt of the earth.
What are we talking about, a few more thousand dollars a year per maid, allowing them to breath a little easier.
Dane Thorsen

Long Beach, CA

#7 Nov 2, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
Support this measure. It is honorable and just.
With the exorbitant profits in the luxury hotel business they can afford. Fat Cat big corp in the high end Hotel business has been abusing housekeeping staff forever. These maids are meek, humble and hard workers. The salt of the earth.
What are we talking about, a few more thousand dollars a year per maid, allowing them to breath a little easier.
It's a risky choice but better to possibly kill the Long Beach Convention Center than to deny Unite HERE's marxist union demands. Certainly better for union owned City Hall politicians.
Mother Turista

Ventura, CA

#8 Nov 2, 2012
Boat em don't bus em
Return to their hometownes and apply for visas the way the immigration reformed law requires.
If their employer wishes to sponsor them that would be a plus.
Why eliminate entry level "move up and out" jobs?
SP Landlord

United States

#9 Nov 2, 2012
Dane Thorsen wrote:
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It's a risky choice but better to possibly kill the Long Beach Convention Center than to deny Unite HERE's marxist union demands. Certainly better for union owned City Hall politicians.
Has certainly not killed convention business in Santa Monica nor LAX/Wilshire Corridor/DT LA luxury Hotel zone, where similar measures passed within the last decade!

Justice for Maids/Janitors measures did not occur in a vacuum, now did they. They went to the vote of the people or their elected representatives. Also, withstood high court review. This is not socialism/marxism, but the will of the people after nearly a century of abuse of entry level humble workers. As I said, these measure have not occured in a vacuum. Newton's second law of Gravity always applies, Mr Ronald.

Have you checked the rates at luxury big City Hotels, even in crappy LB. They can afford it.
SP Landlord

United States

#10 Nov 2, 2012
These Hotel/Hospitality venues, will continue to do very well, even after this measure passes.
HLT

Long Beach, CA

#11 Nov 3, 2012
Have any of you "N" supporters been to Wal Mart downtown lately? Take a look around and see who is spending all the money,that would be the Mexicans. They send half their pay to Mexico to bring more of their family here ILLEGALY.Now they want more money for a minimum wage job,that most of us started out with minimum wage but not them. When is this bull***t ever going to end with these people? "N" MEANS NO!
Ebenezer

United States

#12 Nov 4, 2012
Let's be honest, working as a hotel maid is not the most difficult job on the planet, plus you get tips. I make my own bed and clean my own bathroom -- trust me, if I believed it was too strenuous I'd hire someone to do it.

The focus should be on the folks who do the heavy, difficult construction work. Digging a ditch in the hot sun ain't easy, and those are the people who truly deserve a living wage.

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#13 Nov 4, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
Support this measure. It is honorable and just.
With the exorbitant profits in the luxury hotel business they can afford. Fat Cat big corp in the high end Hotel business has been abusing housekeeping staff forever. These maids are meek, humble and hard workers. The salt of the earth.
What are we talking about, a few more thousand dollars a year per maid, allowing them to breath a little easier.
The hotel industry as a whole is doing very poorly

This will cause a universal rise in prices and the closing of more hotels

People forget that no business ever pays a penny in taxes, fees or wages
The consumer pays it

And when profits drop they close
Period..........

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#14 Nov 4, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
These Hotel/Hospitality venues, will continue to do very well, even after this measure passes.
They are not doing (very well) now

The top chains are all very close to losing money and many locations are closing
SP Landlord

United States

#15 Nov 4, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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The hotel industry as a whole is doing very poorly
This will cause a universal rise in prices and the closing of more hotels
People forget that no business ever pays a penny in taxes, fees or wages
The consumer pays it
And when profits drop they close
Period..........
This is not about a Howard Johnsons in Omaha.

I'm in Santa Monica and Civic Center LA every week.
Luxury Hotels closing? Just the oppposite in these
zones...leveraged buy outs by the biggest players
and continuing new mega Hotel construction by International
consortiums. Smaller hotels being turned into luxury botique.

I'm also familiar with PV. As a sidenote, maids and workers
at the PV high end hotels have more job protection and pay
equity on a factored basis, than those in So-Cal.

PV, for those who think I'm taling about Palos Verdes, is
Puerto Vallarta, Sinaloa, Mexico.

This is the SP Landlord, who posts as an expert witness.
SP Landlord

United States

#16 Nov 4, 2012
This archane premise of consumesrs paying business profits is a gross over simplification in the economic chain.
SP Landlord

United States

#17 Nov 4, 2012
This archane premise of consumers paying taxes on business profits is a gross over simplificatin in the economic chain

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#18 Nov 5, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
<quoted text>This is not about a Howard Johnsons in Omaha.

I'm in Santa Monica and Civic Center LA every week.
Luxury Hotels closing? Just the oppposite in these
zones...leveraged buy outs by the biggest players
and continuing new mega Hotel construction by International
consortiums. Smaller hotels being turned into luxury botique.

I'm also familiar with PV. As a sidenote, maids and workers
at the PV high end hotels have more job protection and pay
equity on a factored basis, than those in So-Cal.

PV, for those who think I'm taling about Palos Verdes, is
Puerto Vallarta, Sinaloa, Mexico.

This is the SP Landlord, who posts as an expert witness.
You are wrong on every point......

The high end hotels are suffering and yes some are getting bought but as a whole the are losing money

I know the type of places you are talking about and we have nicer places here than you have there and they are not making the money they were a few years ago

A maid at any hotel here can be fired for any reason at a moments notice
If one guest complains about there room the maid will not even get a chance to explain
Her street cloths will be brought to her and she will be escorted off of the property and you call that protection??

And you don't even know where Vallarta is

Do a little bit mor research before telling your tall tales

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#19 Nov 5, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
This archane premise of consumesrs paying business profits is a gross over simplification in the economic chain.
Thanks for proving to us that you know nothing about the service industry or business in general
Obama 2012

Long Beach, CA

#20 Nov 5, 2012
Looks like Brown is going to win his $40Billion tax increase with Prop 30. Who knew that Jerry Brown owed the Public Employee Unions so much for their campaign support? That's a lot of mailers.

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