Wisconsin Officer Allegedly Shoots Dog

Wisconsin Officer Allegedly Shoots Dog

There are 105 comments on the Officer.com story from Jun 26, 2007, titled Wisconsin Officer Allegedly Shoots Dog. In it, Officer.com reports that:

“It's unfortunate when an animal is put down for whatever reason. We are conducting another investigation here at the department”

A South Milwaukee family says a police officer shot the family dog. Sarah Schattschneider's dog, Radar, was shot and killed late Sunday afternoon. via Officer.com

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Concerned Citizen

Union, IL

#1 Jul 4, 2007
I know the family and the dog. Very friendly dog and good with children.
Dog was actually shot in its own yard on east side of home. It was not one of the dogs complained about. Cop shot wrong dog while two year old child playing with dog was only a few feet away. Dog had no prior history of being anything but being overly friendly. Makes you wonder about officer's fear of animals and gun happy response to non-threatening incidents.
Waiting

Burlington, WI

#2 Jul 6, 2007
I am waiting to see what the final outcome of the internal investigation is of this shooting. If they shot a family dog in his own yard with a 2 year old child nearby I hope people will voice their outrage, because if these facts are true it is truly outrageous. This officer needs to face discipline and retraining if the facts presented by "Concern Citizen" are true.
Steve Schattschneider

Plymouth, WI

#3 Jul 9, 2007
Owner of the black lab named Radar that was shot on private property, in regards the internal investigation, it came out as everyone knew it would, JUSTIFIABLE. I, as a property owner, single parent, and tax paying citizen, cannot understand how a police officer can take it upon himself to encounter a dog in a front yard and FOLLOW the dog into the rear yard and shoot it, saying that he was afraid of the dog. If he was afraid of the dog, why did he follow it into the rear yard? Dogs growl. Dogs protect their property and family. Could it be, that the police department does not have training in how to handle domesticated animals? Could it be, that the police have too much authority and come into MY yard or YOUR yard or any citizens yard, and blow away their animal, infront of a three year old child? And all you get is an "I'm sorry?" Not much concern about the three year old or how his state of mind may be(by the way he is seeing a doctor now). My biggest question is "If the officer was so fearful of the dog because it growled, why didn't he use mase while the dog was in the front yard, passing him two or three times?" But yet, the officer was so fearful of this dog, he FOLLOWED the dog into the rear yard before shooting him?

A word of advice: To all citizens of South Milwaukee, be aware that an officer can enter your yard, shoot your animals because of fear, indanger your children, or possibly take their life because a "mistake" was made and there is not a damn thing anybody can do about it. The police department will justify it, the alderman will stand by it because it all comes down to protecting the public relations and the bank account of the city of South Milwaukee. The city, it's officials, and it's employees cannot look bad.

Citizens of South Milwaukee, GET INVOLVED!
Waiting

Burlington, WI

#4 Jul 9, 2007
Dear Mr. Schattschneider,
I am so sorry that the SMPD officer shot and killed your family dog. I find this completely outrageous.
Please keep posting on this blog and let us know what you are doing to make sure the officer responsible for this reckless action is held accountable. Also, if you know the responsible officer's name please share it with us.
May Radar RIP.
Sincerely, A South Milwaukee Resident
Concerned Citizen 2

Burlington, WI

#5 Jul 9, 2007
You are going to file a citizen complaint against the officer right? You are going to get neighbors and friends to file citizen complaints right? Who is your alderman? Did you speak with him or her? If so, what did they have to say about the situation? Did you request through the open records law any and all complaints filed against this officer along with any recent complaints against any officers/SMPD? Are you serious the only thing the SMPD Police Chief said to you is "sorry"??
Steve Schattschneider

Plymouth, WI

#6 Jul 9, 2007
Police officers name is Nathan A. Siefert. Not a lot more i can do by myself. Need communities help by calling alderman and demanding an explination to this by contacting your mayor, any and or all city officials. Right now, the city wants us to go away. They dont want people to be informed. They want to keep the city image good when most of us know the truth. Take for instance, about a year and a half ago, infront of 701 Marquette, the police had a dog in a loose at the end of a six foot pole trying to get it into the police car. The dog was frightened, with its tail tucked between its legs, when an officer open fired. Several shots were fired. The dog had gotten away, injured. Yet the police returned, and asked the lady who witnessed it, if she had seen if the dog had growled at the policeman. Her response was "no." Another witness to this had to go to the police department and demand her name to be added to the police report.

GET INVOLVED! Check police reports. Atend City meetings. Talk to your alderman. DEMAND ANSWERS! These people work for you. YOU pay their salary. You are a tax paying citizen.

Remember your vote counts.
Concerned Citizen

Union, IL

#7 Jul 9, 2007
So. Milw Police Chief and many officers do not live in So. Milw. and do not take the initiative to get to know residents and various areas of City of So. Milw. There have been many more animal shootings in the past few years than in the previous decades, when Chief and officers took the initiative to get to know the residents.

Now they just act, sometines without thinking, and refer all consequences to the City Attorney. The City Attorney always, but ALWAYS, sides with the City, regardless of facts. The only way you will get action is to take it to County or Circuit Court. I suggest that you see an attorney to get copies of ALL reports regarding this incident. You could also sue the City in Small Claims Court if an attorney is cost prohibitive. The only way you will get any positive action is to take it out of the City and pursue it in the County/Circuit Court system. Don't hold your breath waiting for a response from the Mayor or your aldermen. You may leave messages for them, but you will never get them on the phone, nor will they return your calls. I have been a resident of South Milwaukee for over 50 years, and I have never known the City to admit fault for anything. Most people get action only after taking it to Circuit Court. Good Luck to you, Sir, and I hope other residents will complain to the Mayor and their alderman, as I have done, regarding your situation.
Concerned Citizen 3

Union, IL

#8 Jul 9, 2007
Just a suggestion, you may want to call Contact 6 to see if they may be interested in doing an investigative report on this. It would be interesting to find out how many dogs Humane Society has dealt with and how many they had to shoot on the street. Perhaps they are just better trained and are able to outsmart a dog instead of killing it.
It's a sad commentary on SMPD and the City of South Milwaukee.
Concerned Citizen 3

Union, IL

#9 Jul 9, 2007
Just curious... Did the SMPD officer ever complete the assignment regarding the dogs he was originally summoned for? I believe the dog he shot was a totally different dog in his own yard. Case of mistaken identity or just bad police work?
A SM Resident

Burlington, WI

#10 Jul 10, 2007
It is about accountability. I heard the Chief was hired during a meeting that broke open meeting laws, she was able to live outside the City of South Milwaukee, eventhough, there is a residency requirement, and she refuses to release information regarding the police officers who act inappropriately. It is politics at its worst. The Police and Fire Commission meetings have been canceled two or three months in a row due to nothing on the agenda. Can you imagine this city not having anything to address for that length of time? They are incompetent. We need a new Police Chief.
Contact all news outlets including blogs and keep telling Radar's story.
All American Girl

Milwaukee, WI

#11 Jul 10, 2007
That poor dog! I like animals more then most people. What a trauma for the family. I feel so sorry for the family for losing a great family member.
More info please

Burlington, WI

#12 Jul 10, 2007
Mr. Schattschneider when did the South Milwaukee PD get done with the internal investigation? Did they notify you personally with the results? Were there any witnesses to Officer Siefert's reckless actions?
Kelly Just

Plymouth, WI

#13 Jul 10, 2007
The internal was complete as of 7-6-07. We got a phone call and meet with the chief on Monday. They was a witness to this all.
Kelly Just

Plymouth, WI

#14 Jul 10, 2007
There was nothing justified about this whole incident. It was my son standing there and is still scared. He still asks questions everyday. He is 3 and should not have had to see this. Besides the fact how do you shot a gun and not see him standing there? The officer never saw him!! Yet still fired. Please get involved. Call the news, city hall, and the papers. Come to the council meeting on 7-17-07 at 7p.m. Let them hear your concerns. Start more blogs. Do whatever you can to be heard. We are going to be getting the other reports from dog, and officer incidents.

Please get involved. However you can be heard. If they do not hear from you they have no reason but to sweep it under the rug. Let's get together as neighbors and a community and do something about this ever happening again and possibly hurting someone else.
A SM Resident

Burlington, WI

#15 Jul 10, 2007
Kelly you are so lucky that the bullet didn't go through poor Radar and hit your son. I can't even imagine what in the world this officer was thinking. Please take good care of your son; I'm am sure he will need some sort of counseling or something. How horrifying for him, you, and the Schattschneiders.
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I am curious on what the Chief actually told you in the meeting. Did she accept any accountability for the officer's reckless actions? Have you filed any complaints with the Police and Fire Commission?
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By the way, I was told by someone at SouthMilwaukeeNow.com that they tried to get information about the internal investigation yesterday, but the SMPD said it wasn't completed yet.
Read Report
#16 Jul 13, 2007
The report states the officer was charged by the dog numerous times before shooting the dog. The report states that there was a witness to the incident and their story is consistent with the officer's version.
Steve Schattschneider

Plymouth, WI

#17 Jul 15, 2007
An update to answer questions, as far as the officer answering original call, don't believe so because he was told to leave the scene by other officers. Yes, it is about accountability, but city officials and police officers can justify anything they do with the simple words "Justifiable because officer was afraid." News channels don't want to get involved because it involves city politics. The police chief was done with the investigation on July 6th. It was her last day of vacation, but she came in to read the report. I met with her on Monday, July 9th to find out that it was all justified. Some startling statements made by chief Wellens, was that the officer thought he saw someone in the back yard and that is why he followed the dog. But yet, the officer states that he never saw the three year old child standing by the dog when shot (conflict or not). Please come to my property, see for yourself if you can see into my backyard from where the officer started following the dog. As far as police report, dog never charged him a couple of times, but the dog past him in the front yard. So if the dog charged him a couple of times, why was the officers intellegence, at such a low, that he FOLLOWED the dog in between two houses, torward the rear yard, and shot the dog there (was the officer the agressive one)? Wellens also stated that a human with a knife in its hand, charging an officer from twenty-one feet away, the officer would not have enough time to draw his gun and fire, but yet he had time to draw his gun and fire at a dog which is at least twice as fast (if not more) than a human within ten to fifteen feet of space between two homes and a shed. Or was the officers gun drawn while he was following the dog? Which brings me back to the original question "Why did he shoot, when he thought he had seen somebody in the back yard???" Contact your alderman. McCarthy said he was sorry for what happened, but was more concerned about public relations and bad PR for the city.
Kelly Just

Plymouth, WI

#18 Jul 15, 2007
I hate to inform you that the report states that the officer was confronted in the front yard of the home when the dog was out. He also did nothing when the dog growled at him seeral times in front of the house and others standing ourside. So he follows the dog then feels a threat from him??? Somehting not right about this. Also the cop did not have time to draw his gun, aim, and shhot with the dog rushing him from only 6-10 feet away. This means he already had his gun out and planned to use it. This is not according to what he says but what the Chief stated to us. The report that was filed by the responding officer is crap. He conterdicts himself many times in the report. So what are you suppose to believe? I also asked for a meeting with the officer and have not yet heard anything. If Wellens can't answer my questions, then maybe the cop that did it can!
SM Resident

Burlington, WI

#19 Jul 15, 2007
Good luck with the Alderpeople. I am not quite sure what they are for yet. Everyone seems to be more concerned with what situations like this one looks like to the rest of the world, but they have no concern or less of a concern for those who are living and paying taxes in SM.

Police reports are not always accurate and there should be a way to challenge what an officer writes in his/her reports if it isn't correct.
Steve Schattschneider

Plymouth, WI

#21 Jul 17, 2007
SM Resident police reports are the officers accounts of what happened if they differ greatly from witness accounts the officer should be held liable for false info and charged with the offence of hindering and making false statments are these the officers you want keeping you and your property safe i know i sure dont

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