Teaching two sides of San Jacinto battle

Teaching two sides of San Jacinto battle

There are 15 comments on the Houston Chronicle story from Apr 18, 2007, titled Teaching two sides of San Jacinto battle. In it, Houston Chronicle reports that:

“Would you have stayed at the Alamo and fought?”

San Jacinto Day, the commemoration of the famed 1836 battle that ended with the surrender of the Mexican army to Texas forces, will be celebrated next Saturday. via Houston Chronicle

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Barbara Tiemeier

Arlington, TX

#1 Apr 23, 2007
My cousin Isaac Ryan died in the battle at the Alamo. I like to think I am brave like he was. Santa Anna was not trying to live in peace, he was a brutal killer.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#2 Apr 23, 2007
General Santa Anna was trying to reinstore law-and-order in a province which had been invaded by renegade foreigners who were instigating an unlawful
secession of said province, namely N. Mexico, known today as Texas.

I think if I and 250 or however many renegades armed ourselves to the teeth & holed ouselves up somewhere in Texas demanding secession from the union, we'd probably suffer the same fate. They all got what they were asking for...
Barbara Tiemeier wrote:
My cousin Isaac Ryan died in the battle at the Alamo. I like to think I am brave like he was. Santa Anna was not trying to live in peace, he was a brutal killer.
Todd W

Houston, TX

#3 Apr 23, 2007
I love visiting the Alamo and the San Jancento Monumnet. They were great fighters on both sides and each was fighting an honorable fight. However, the importance of the Tejas Victory is great. A great moment in the History of the United States.
Todd W

Houston, TX

#4 Apr 23, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
General Santa Anna was trying to reinstore law-and-order in a province which had been invaded by renegade foreigners who were instigating an unlawful
secession of said province, namely N. Mexico, known today as Texas.
I think if I and 250 or however many renegades armed ourselves to the teeth & holed ouselves up somewhere in Texas demanding secession from the union, we'd probably suffer the same fate. They all got what they were asking for...
<quoted text>
You need to read your history. The Texas only demanded sucession after faild treatys that Santa Anna didn't honor. One was representation for the territory.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#5 Apr 23, 2007
I have read the history regarding the whole shlamassel in Texas.

Namely, the Texas schoolbook version and the version of an Italian national serving in the Mexican army during those years. I believe the name of the book is "History of the war in Texas" by general Filisola.
It's a very interesting book which gives one a realistic view of what happened back then.

I never believed the shmaltzig bullsh!t kitsh we read in the Texas history books. What impudence to demand secession when the Mexican government gave them such generous land grants.
Todd W wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to read your history. The Texas only demanded sucession after faild treatys that Santa Anna didn't honor. One was representation for the territory.
Todd W

Houston, TX

#6 Apr 24, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
I have read the history regarding the whole shlamassel in Texas.
Namely, the Texas schoolbook version and the version of an Italian national serving in the Mexican army during those years. I believe the name of the book is "History of the war in Texas" by general Filisola.
It's a very interesting book which gives one a realistic view of what happened back then.
I never believed the shmaltzig bullsh!t kitsh we read in the Texas history books. What impudence to demand secession when the Mexican government gave them such generous land grants.
<quoted text>
Thanks I will check out that book. Texas history is one of my favorite subjects. Many of the books fail to mention that several Mexicans died fighting for Texas independance as well.
Arthur Chance

AOL

#7 Apr 24, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
General Santa Anna was trying to reinstore law-and-order in a province which had been invaded by renegade foreigners who were instigating an unlawful
secession of said province, namely N. Mexico, known today as Texas.
I think if I and 250 or however many renegades armed ourselves to the teeth & holed ouselves up somewhere in Texas demanding secession from the union, we'd probably suffer the same fate. They all got what they were asking for...
<quoted text>
So did Sanata Anna- he got his latino ass kicked back to Mexico, where he belonged. And the rest is history. History lesson learned- Don't mess with the Gringo!
Govchance
Todd W

Houston, TX

#8 Apr 25, 2007
Arthur Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
So did Sanata Anna- he got his latino ass kicked back to Mexico, where he belonged. And the rest is history. History lesson learned- Don't mess with the Gringo!
Govchance
I believe there were a hundred or so mexicans fighting on the texas side. Lead by a mexican officer.
Texas Expatriate

Köln, Germany

#9 Apr 25, 2007
I read that General Santa Anna was supposed to be executed by firing squad. Immediately before being executed he uttered a code spoken by freemasons in imminent danger of death. The texan leaders (who were also freemasons) spared his life upon hearing this.

Small world...
Arthur Chance wrote:
<quoted text>
So did Sanata Anna- he got his latino ass kicked back to Mexico, where he belonged. And the rest is history. History lesson learned- Don't mess with the Gringo!
Govchance
Todd W

Houston, TX

#10 Apr 25, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
I read that General Santa Anna was supposed to be executed by firing squad. Immediately before being executed he uttered a code spoken by freemasons in imminent danger of death. The texan leaders (who were also freemasons) spared his life upon hearing this.
Small world...
<quoted text>
I heard that as well, now that you mention it.
urnst

United States

#11 Nov 7, 2007
In reguards to the Texas Expatriate, you really don't know your history, do you? I guess you believe in the 911 Conspiracy too. I am proud that you are able to prove your lack of education on the net, and I am glad that you have that right. It, however doesn't mean that you are correct, just stupid. I suppose you think that Cinco de Mayo is the Mexican Independence day. Good luck and God bless you. Read!!!!!!!!
Texas Expatriate

Göttingen, Germany

#12 Nov 8, 2007
Urnst,

I suggest you read this book before you start calling anyone stupid, if you can afford it.

The book costs about 169.00 Euros and upwards.

Title: Memoirs for the History of the War in Texas

Author: General Vicente Filisola (translated by Wallace Woolsey)

ISBN-10: 0890154619
ISBN-13: 978-0890154618

Available at Amazon.com

Cheers bud...
urnst wrote:
In reguards to the Texas Expatriate, you really don't know your history, do you? I guess you believe in the 911 Conspiracy too. I am proud that you are able to prove your lack of education on the net, and I am glad that you have that right. It, however doesn't mean that you are correct, just stupid. I suppose you think that Cinco de Mayo is the Mexican Independence day. Good luck and God bless you. Read!!!!!!!!
Foolsgold

United States

#13 Nov 18, 2007
What really matters is that Texas became Texas by virtue of the actions of many freemen of various races who joined together to form this Republic, then joined the United States of America which existed by virtue of the same kinds and quality of men and women.
We are Texans and Americans, a fact that some have forgotten. We are NOT Mexicans and Africans, and Japanese and Irish And English and Russian and Indian...WE are AMERICAN.

Since: Jan 06

AOL

#14 Nov 19, 2007
Texas Expatriate wrote:
General Santa Anna was trying to reinstore law-and-order in a province which had been invaded by renegade foreigners who were instigating an unlawful
secession of said province, namely N. Mexico, known today as Texas.
I think if I and 250 or however many renegades armed ourselves to the teeth & holed ouselves up somewhere in Texas demanding secession from the union, we'd probably suffer the same fate. They all got what they were asking for...
<quoted text>
what the hell does a german know about texas history. you krouts are still nuts.
truthist

United States

#15 Nov 19, 2007
Well, we don't talk about TX history in TX. We just shut up. Right? RRRRight.

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