Man fatally shot in south suburban Do...

Man fatally shot in south suburban Dolton

There are 33 comments on the Chicago Sun-Times story from Jun 4, 2010, titled Man fatally shot in south suburban Dolton. In it, Chicago Sun-Times reports that:

A man was shot and killed Thursday night in an apparent homicide in south suburban Dolton.

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Live in Dolton

Chicago, IL

#1 Jun 4, 2010
What happen to the other person who was shot????
No one seen to know anything.
TIMES UP

Chicago, IL

#2 Jun 4, 2010
This is from the clubs as they come out to leave!
Why don't they get rid of these Clubs???????
send them back to Chicago OH THEY DIDN"T WANT THEM THERE!!! SO WHY DO WE WANT THEM HERE. MR.MAYOR GET THEM OUT OF TOWN!!!!!
Help

Dolton, IL

#3 Jun 4, 2010
How can we petition to get these clubs out of town. Our Mayor is the liquor commissioner...so exactly how does that work?
bring emdown

Chicago, IL

#4 Jun 6, 2010
maybe we should call the govner for national guard help
VOR

Columbus, OH

#5 Jun 6, 2010
Jesus F'n tap dancing Cripes!!! And this used to be a safe middle class white town not but 30 years ago? What the f***, man!! I say bring the national Guard. No, Special Ops. Green Berets. Ninjas. Whoever will get the job done. But make sure they wear bullet proof vests because there seem to be a lot of trigger happy f***heads in Dolton.
Tired of it

United States

#6 Jun 6, 2010
bring emdown wrote:
maybe we should call the govner for national guard help
An investigation is underway regarding who is getting paid off to keep these clubs licensed. This collard green azz bullshyt been going on way too long!
Doltonite

United States

#7 Jun 6, 2010
VOR wrote:
Jesus F'n tap dancing Cripes!!! And this used to be a safe middle class white town not but 30 years ago? What the f***, man!! I say bring the national Guard. No, Special Ops. Green Berets. Ninjas. Whoever will get the job done. But make sure they wear bullet proof vests because there seem to be a lot of trigger happy f***heads in Dolton.
PLEASE bring whatever it will take to clean out this town of thugs, and all the other kinds of miscellaneous shit that needs to be cleaned out!! As residents can't we ask for their resignations? There are alot of yes, Shaw relative employees, how sad. The citizens of Dolton will have to wait for 2012 to get the problem under control. But at least they got Fox gone -now we need divesity in Dolton, and we do not need Herzog either to help us!! Taxes will be going up soon, because DOLTON is going bankrupt--stay tuned...
Misunderstood

Chicago, IL

#8 Jun 7, 2010
It is not the clubs, it is the people who are going to the clubs.... Do you people really believe that if the clubs are closed that the crime would stop? I don't think so it will just spill over into the neighborhood's streets...... The club owners are supplying security and are not responsible for someone's actions outside of the club..... However there is always a strong police presence outside of the clubs from open until close ..... So who is really at blame here? How could people lose their lives with so many police officers near by? There are many clubs in other towns or cities and the crime rate is not as high.... I just think it is a bigger picture than blaming the clubs.... cause if people have no where to go then what are they going to be doing? Most of these people that attend the clubs are from the area and will not go to other areas to hang out so they will be hanging on your streets!
BJ in town

Chicago, IL

#9 Jun 7, 2010
Misunderstood wrote:
It is not the clubs, it is the people who are going to the clubs.... Do you people really believe that if the clubs are closed that the crime would stop? I don't think so it will just spill over into the neighborhood's streets...... The club owners are supplying security and are not responsible for someone's actions outside of the club..... However there is always a strong police presence outside of the clubs from open until close ..... So who is really at blame here? How could people lose their lives with so many police officers near by? There are many clubs in other towns or cities and the crime rate is not as high.... I just think it is a bigger picture than blaming the clubs.... cause if people have no where to go then what are they going to be doing? Most of these people that attend the clubs are from the area and will not go to other areas to hang out so they will be hanging on your streets!

It was like this before Mr. Ricky came to Dolton. The Mayor is part of the problem. He could get them out of town. He is there also handing out with Robert Shaw. There the Problem!!!! Don't care as long as he get the liquor money.
wiffey

Chicago Heights, IL

#10 Jun 7, 2010
Misunderstood wrote:
It is not the clubs, it is the people who are going to the clubs.... Do you people really believe that if the clubs are closed that the crime would stop? I don't think so it will just spill over into the neighborhood's streets...... The club owners are supplying security and are not responsible for someone's actions outside of the club..... However there is always a strong police presence outside of the clubs from open until close ..... So who is really at blame here? How could people lose their lives with so many police officers near by? There are many clubs in other towns or cities and the crime rate is not as high.... I just think it is a bigger picture than blaming the clubs.... cause if people have no where to go then what are they going to be doing? Most of these people that attend the clubs are from the area and will not go to other areas to hang out so they will be hanging on your streets!
I think if they rid of the clubs there would be no where for the thugs to come and party atleast not in dolton...I say closed them all.
BJ in town

Chicago, IL

#11 Jun 7, 2010
It was not like this before Mr. Ricky came to Dolton. The Mayor is part of the problem. He could get them out of town. He is there also handing out with Robert Shaw. There the Problem!!!! Don't care as long as he "Mayor Lewis" get the liquor money.
Are U 4 Real

Harvey, IL

#12 Jun 8, 2010
What is wrong with you people? To allege that Mayor Lewis and Robert Shaw want a person killed is insane. You individuals are sick, I pray for you and think you all need to go for some counseling. Robert Shaw lost a son to street violence, he feels and know your pain first hand. WHY are you such haters? Close the Clubs - NONE NONE NONE of the victims killed have ever been accused of being drunk or drugged up while leaving these clubs. The clubs had nothing to do with it. What about the 15 year old walking home from school at Thornridge, YOU can't blame the club for that. Get REAL. Or what club killed the kids on the bus in Chicago? none, kids playing in front of their homes - none. Chicago has a much larger police force than Dolton and they average 20 killings per weekend. WHAT IS THE ANSWERS? PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FOSTER PARENTS, GRANMA, GRANPA, SISTERS, BROTHERS, AUNTS, UNCLES, IN-LAWS: go home search your kids POSSESSIONS young and old and make sure they don't have any weapons. CHECK the dirty clothes, toilet, pantry, toy box, shoes, video game carts, book bags, garage, bushes around your homes, garbage cans and anything else you may think of for a hiding place. Let your kids be kids and not share the burden of a lost job or low income. I came up poor too but I did not steal, rob, or sell drugs to have things. Parents, Stop buying can food and learn to shop better. Meatless-Spaghetti in a can is $1.39 or more and serves one person. For $2 you can get four serving, 4 full serving if you make it yourself. Your day will come when things will rise for you. But teach your kids to respect others and you all stop blaming Mayor Lewis and Robert Shaw of these hideous things. They are grown and if they chose to have a drink that is their business. Also you folks need to get off that about people getting money. What money if you got some REAL information take it to the authority. Believe me they are looking and they haven't found anyhting so why are you making up lies about people. The news paper and T V media had no problem coming here for a Youth being shot, but they don't come for those over 18 that is why it is not in the paper. The press did not come back to say that someone was caught for the shooting either. Make some resolve to tell the truth aout folks not add to falsehood about them.
E House

Dolton, IL

#13 Jun 9, 2010
O yes the Clubs can take part of this blame. If they were not here Dolton Police would not have all those law suits they have to fight, after trying to arrest the drunks leaving these clubs. And remember, even if Dolton Police wins these Law suits we have to pay with higher taxes and you know what happens when they loose. There are several cases pending now whereas the Village has offered to pay these offenders off, and who's pocket will that money come from. These law suits could cost this town millions. Maybe you should ask the Village Attorney because obviously you don't know whats going on.
And please don't forget Cortez Moutry who was murdered at Mr. Ricky's or the toddler who was shot at a liquor store here. With all these liquor stores and Clubs with 4am licenses the Village of Dolton has created an environment for crime. Most people move to the suburbs to get away from what the Mayor and the Trustees are bringing to Dalton and they should not be forgiven for creating this mess. Yes close the Clubs, liquor stores and that will be one step closer to the recovery of Dolton.
old dolton

United States

#14 Jun 9, 2010
E House wrote:
O yes the Clubs can take part of this blame. If they were not here Dolton Police would not have all those law suits they have to fight, after trying to arrest the drunks leaving these clubs. And remember, even if Dolton Police wins these Law suits we have to pay with higher taxes and you know what happens when they loose. There are several cases pending now whereas the Village has offered to pay these offenders off, and who's pocket will that money come from. These law suits could cost this town millions. Maybe you should ask the Village Attorney because obviously you don't know whats going on.
And please don't forget Cortez Moutry who was murdered at Mr. Ricky's or the toddler who was shot at a liquor store here. With all these liquor stores and Clubs with 4am licenses the Village of Dolton has created an environment for crime. Most people move to the suburbs to get away from what the Mayor and the Trustees are bringing to Dalton and they should not be forgiven for creating this mess. Yes close the Clubs, liquor stores and that will be one step closer to the recovery of Dolton.
You miss the point E House. I have been here in DOLTON since the early 60's. Went to the schools here, ate here in the restaurants, drank in many a fine establishment here, shopped in alot of the stores here, went to the DOLTON Theatre and even banked here. We had alot of things going for us here the DOLTON carnival, the DOLTON pool, the baseball and football teams, if not more. Since everyone has run scared out of this great village, we have lost alot of revenue. Do to fooreclosures and people not paying their property taxes this puts a burden on the village of DOLTON. YOU want the clubs, liquor stores and taverns closed--who are you? Do you think that is the answer? I went to the meeting the other night, I heard all of these people clap when someone said that they need to close all of the establishments down. DO YOU THINK for one minute that these liquor stores are going to jepardize their liquor licenses to sell to MINORS? In the first place they should not be anywhere by them. And in the second place SHAME on the adults that either buy it for them or LEAVE it out for the MINORS to abuse. These establishments that sell liquor are paying taxes here in DOLTON, so think about this be for you shoot off saying they need to leave town! If you want to say something try with this: We here in DOLTON do not need anymore child care centers, nail salons or hair salons. It is just to insane, because they do not pay taxes, at all!! WE are going to have a long hot summer, please to all of the residents that are reading this make sure you know what your children are doing and GIVE them a CURFEW, so they are not in TROUBLE!!
BJ in town

Chicago, IL

#15 Jun 9, 2010
Old Dolton and Are 4 Real If we had people who cared about Dolton and people in the real world. We pay tax on are property and sale tax would off set money to take care of the village. But in Dolton they have lots of tif and empty house and buildings. then we have law suits from the clubs. A lot are settled out of court but it still cost the village lot of money. The Mayor said at the meeting on Monday that Mr. Ricky's pays 100 thousand $ a year. I don't think so.. Less see if that true. Also the collage night at both clubs is and out rage. They don't open until late around 9 or 10pm and the kids look like they are 15-17 year old if you think they are not drinking something wrong with you here. Who brought these club the Shaw and Mayor Lewis could shut them down. they claim no one was shot at Mr. Ricky's. How about 2 people shot on June 4,2010 3am
on Grant st. off of 142nd street. One died don't know about the other one. Were do you think they were coming from. How about the young man late year out for his 21st birthday and wa s shot and kill not far the club. there are a lot no one know about. Wake up and close them down Mr Lewis you can do it. You are in Charge arn't you!!!!!!!
Miss Eyes of Dolton

Manteno, IL

#16 Jun 9, 2010
Help wrote:
How can we petition to get these clubs out of town. Our Mayor is the liquor commissioner...so exactly how does that work?
Thats a good question to ask the State Police or Sheriff Thomas Dart. It's worth a try.
Shadow Knows

Harvey, IL

#17 Jun 11, 2010
Hello Mr. B J, you say "they claim no one shot at Mr. Ricky's then you say how about June 4, at 142 Grant Street. Mr. Ricky's is at 141st and Chicago Road. Get it Grant then Chicago Road. Now my question to all is this? There are 3 other clubs near Secrets n Mr. Rickys. So who is to say where these shooters come from. Also there is parties going on in the old Expo Center now disguised as a church and business venue. So there was only one incident that i recalled related to Mr. Ricky's. So closing the clubs losing tax revenue what ever the amount is asinine. These vacant homes will not be filled soon, the job market has to change first. IF THE PARENTS start parenting, search their kids, and the older young adults attempt to make their friends be more responsible we may have a chance. Youngsters, gangbangers and the whole gun happy people have even shot at the police, here, in Chicago and eleswhere. TAKE THE WEAPONS FROM YOUR CHILD AND FRIENDS. For me I am not about to go up to none of these crazy people and say you should not do that, I may be wrong but I do not intend to associate myself with these youth. They are out of control and I don't feel I can help them personally. If I see something I will call for help, but stepping up close I am just as scared as the next person. I pray for change daily, but my skills don't work in this arena.
BJ in town

Chicago, IL

#18 Jun 11, 2010
I have not seen party at the old Expo Center. So when has this happen? It hard to say the one that die where they were just before someone took you life. The young man that got killed 21st birthday was at Mr Ricky's.
Decorated Vet

Chicago, IL

#19 Jun 11, 2010
Help wrote:
How can we petition to get these clubs out of town. Our Mayor is the liquor commissioner...so exactly how does that work?
The 56th precinct appears to include Secret's, Ricky's, and Angel's. The outraged voters of that precinct, or the whole town, would have to get together, circulate a petition, get enough valid signatures, word the petitions correctly to get rid of the clubs' liquor licenses just to get the right question somewhere on the bottom of the ballot. You can't pick and choose clubs, only classes of liquor licenses by political subdivision. The smallest sub is the precinct, then the next, then the next, or the whole town. You probably have about two weeks to make a deadline for this November. Good luck! You would probably (most certainly) want to have an attorney make certain you get the wording right in order to make sure you get the chance to rid yourself of these clubs' exact licenses. Then, if if gets past electoral challenges, it would go to a vote in either November, or a future primary, or the next consolidated general election next year. Then, the voters will decide! Good luck!
Decorated Vet

Chicago, IL

#20 Jun 11, 2010
Shadow - so according to you the meager tax revenue from the clubs is worth more than a person's life. You need alot of help!

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