Why does Memorial Day make blacks violent?

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midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#1 May 26, 2013
17 shot, 6 dead so far this weekend

Odd way to celebrate.
spear chucker

Chicago, IL

#2 May 26, 2013
midloguy30 wrote:
17 shot, 6 dead so far this weekend
Odd way to celebrate.
Midloguy you are such a loser. Go to college and get a masters in sociology, study the demographics in high crime areas, everything from poverty level to drop out rate to single parents, welfare and link recipients, and everything else needed to form an anser to your repeated rhetorical questions about jigs and violence. Seriously you are so fuckin annoying
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#4 May 26, 2013
I am somewhat of a therapist for blacks able to admit their problems. That's the first step spear chucker.

Who would like to step up?
arby

Lansing, IL

#5 May 27, 2013
midloguy30 wrote:
17 shot, 6 dead so far this weekend
Odd way to celebrate.
they 'celebrate' this way every weekend. and the rest of society has to pay for it because none of them work or have health insurance, so the taxpayers have to pay.
Dolton Eagle Eye

Calumet City, IL

#6 May 27, 2013
Some of these comments are rooted in stupidity. There are more White people on welfare and unemployed than Black people? This is simply because there are more White people in the world. That being said, nothing is ever absolute. To say "none of them work..." is baseless and racist.
arby

Lansing, IL

#7 May 27, 2013
Dolton Eagle Eye wrote:
Some of these comments are rooted in stupidity. There are more White people on welfare and unemployed than Black people? This is simply because there are more White people in the world. That being said, nothing is ever absolute. To say "none of them work..." is baseless and racist.
truth hurts, doesn't it?
broken down by race, there are a higher percentage of the black population on welfare than the percentage of whites on welfare. if telling the truth makes me a racist, then so be it.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#8 May 27, 2013
Dolton Eagle Eye wrote:
Some of these comments are rooted in stupidity. There are more White people on welfare and unemployed than Black people? This is simply because there are more White people in the world. That being said, nothing is ever absolute. To say "none of them work..." is baseless and racist.
What's the point in bringing up welfare in sheer numbers if you know its because their are at least 150 million more white people in the US.

His comment was racist but I don't know how you can really blame him. Liberal media tries to hide black crime whenever it can and still..its murder after murder and murder in the black community.
How else are we supposd to feel? And these thugs don't have insurance and it is the taxpayers picking up the check. My insurance is getting billed higher as doctors try to recoup costs. It cost me and it costs you.

I can tell you are an educated person. How sad or mad are you at the large group of African Americans who are reflecting on you?
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#9 May 27, 2013
update
22 wounded
6 dead this weekend.
Thank God it was not hot out.
arby

Lansing, IL

#10 May 27, 2013
Dolton Eagle Eye wrote:
Some of these comments are rooted in stupidity. There are more White people on welfare and unemployed than Black people? This is simply because there are more White people in the world. That being said, nothing is ever absolute. To say "none of them work..." is baseless and racist.
maybe you should watch the news for something other than sports. you would see the amount of crime happening in black neighborhoods. this isn't white people,or hispanic or asian people committing these horrific crimes. so my answer to you is clean up your own house first!
BTW

Chicago, IL

#11 May 27, 2013
arby wrote:
<quoted text>truth hurts, doesn't it?
broken down by race, there are a higher percentage of the black population on welfare than the percentage of whites on welfare. if telling the truth makes me a racist, then so be it.
I don't know anything about you being a racist but if you are/or not, it certainly has nothing to do with you telling the truth. In proportion, yes, more blacks use those programs than anyt other group. What about it? I'm black and I don't use it, so what that has to do with anything I don't know. I say this all the time and a lot of people don't like to hear it. Research wise and historically speaking, it is lazy to just discuss the state of black America now without admitting it was not like this 50 years ago asking why it is like this now. Drop out rates are very high for blacks. What you should be asking yourself is how people go from subjecting themselves to physical assaults and dog attacks just to attend school and 50 years later there are not physical barriers and they refuse to attend school. Historially, it is lazy to skip those decades and act like there is not more to the story.
arby

Lansing, IL

#12 May 27, 2013
BTW wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know anything about you being a racist but if you are/or not, it certainly has nothing to do with you telling the truth. In proportion, yes, more blacks use those programs than anyt other group. What about it? I'm black and I don't use it, so what that has to do with anything I don't know. I say this all the time and a lot of people don't like to hear it. Research wise and historically speaking, it is lazy to just discuss the state of black America now without admitting it was not like this 50 years ago asking why it is like this now. Drop out rates are very high for blacks. What you should be asking yourself is how people go from subjecting themselves to physical assaults and dog attacks just to attend school and 50 years later there are not physical barriers and they refuse to attend school. Historially, it is lazy to skip those decades and act like there is not more to the story.
you are black and pay for those programs that were designed as a temporary help. some people have made it a career choice and i'm against that no matter what color you are. and you are right, the drop out rate is too high for blacks, actually 1 high school dropout of any color is 1 too many. we've come too far in racial equality miss an opportunity. bottom line is many black people have been busy playing the race card when in fact they should be studying what works in other cultures. look at people here from India or Asia, they're beating the socks off of everybody. could it be that they make education a priority? check who a lot of the doctors and engineers are?
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#13 May 27, 2013
BTW

There are multiple ways to look at things. You would think with all the hardships endured by black America they would sieze the opportunities they have today. You are just offering excuses. The black youth of today have been victimized by nobody except themselves.

Over 70 of every 100 black kids live with one parent only. This is the black races number 1 problem and it can not be blamed on Whites.

Hispanics came here in droves under President Bush. Even not knowing the language Hispanics now have more spending power and their kids test better in school.

This is uncomprehendable. How can Hispanic kids test better when some of their parents can't even speak English.

Read that part about the Hispanics again. Its only a few sentences but it says so much.

The majority just got here. And they are kicking black ass in every category which pertains to good living. Mostly, making money. If they do all this in the last 20-25 years, then what excuse do black people really have.

Hispanics are all about effort.
Black's are all about excuses...and your post shows it.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#14 May 28, 2013
BTW...are you speechless?

Ya I know...really not too much to say after that last post of mine. Hopefully you are realizing what I am saying about the excuses rather then the effort. If you read back over your post about 50 years ago...school...blah blah and you feel somewhat foolish. I'm sorry...it wasn't my intention.
The truth can be tough too swallow at times.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#15 May 29, 2013
BTW?
BTW

Chicago, IL

#16 May 29, 2013
midloguy30 wrote:
BTW?
No, I have a job. I can check this joke of a site when I get home from work but I have a job where I can't be on Topix checking for your latest rants. I didn't make any excuses. I don't make excuses for myself let alone a whole race of anybody. I said it's historically lazy to ignore that it was not like this a few decades back. I stand by that. When people make blanket comments about anybody or anything, I generally call them on the carpet and address whether or not their statements are in context or are based on anything beyond their emotions. This has included several occasions of me telling black people that I think they misperceived a white person who was a jerk to be a racist...because I don't think it's the same. I tell them when they don't know what they're talking about and I'll tell you. I'm black. I've lived in the hood and in a really nice neighborhood, played basketball in dirty alleys and soccer on nice green fields. All of my parents' children went to college as did all of my in-laws children'. I don't fit into any of your stereotypes and frankly I have never read anything you have written that even appeared to suggest you were clever or possessed some sort of wisdom. With that said...I was at work. If there is one person I am not afraid of or intimidated by addressing comments to it is you. You only said I made excuses but you never refuted what I sad. Show me what I'm saying isn't true then we'll see what you're really offering to the table. You just spout out some numbers as if our discussion was about that. If you read my comments again I talked about numbers where the black race is doing poorly. I just can't believe people are dumb enough to say "oh blacks are so violent" and pretend as if that is a historical conclusion. I don't know if you went to college or not. I know that papers and research put together like that was poorly graded and not regarded well. You can't just say..awww a duh..blacks are so ummm bad, I dunno know...ahhh thee end. And that is pretty much a summary of most of your comments. No intelligent background, no critical analysis, just tv headlines and internet blurbs. You are definitely not the cream of whatever ethnic group you come from.
BTW

Chicago, IL

#17 May 29, 2013
arby wrote:
<quoted text>you are black and pay for those programs that were designed as a temporary help. some people have made it a career choice and i'm against that no matter what color you are. and you are right, the drop out rate is too high for blacks, actually 1 high school dropout of any color is 1 too many. we've come too far in racial equality miss an opportunity. bottom line is many black people have been busy playing the race card when in fact they should be studying what works in other cultures. look at people here from India or Asia, they're beating the socks off of everybody. could it be that they make education a priority? check who a lot of the doctors and engineers are?
This is partly why I think midloguy is an idiot. I can honestly say I agree with your post..may even 100%. I really believe the blame is to be shared. If I was talking to people abusing the system, I would only deal with their faults in it. Likewise, if I was talking to govt officials, I would only deal with their faults in how people abuse the system. Yeah...way too many people play the race card but it doesn't strike me as odd because people in general play whatever card they can get. I was just reading a veteran's comments on another blog and he was upset because he felt like too many vets commit crimes and pull a PTSD card. We also have a sexual harassment card. That to me, as wrong as it is, is to be expected from people. Whenever they can get over, most people will try to unfortunately. As far as your comments for studying other cultures...in reality, the context is too far off. Blacks are American born and like it or not have been Americanized back to the births of slaves on this continent. We don't naturally know anything but America. If you get to speak freely with ethnic groups from India, Asia, or Africa, they generally do not think well of Americans. They have great appreciation for the opportunities afforded to them here but there biggest fear is their children being Americanized and seeing the world as we do. That's why it would not work for blacks to "study other cultures." Black Nationalists would disagree with me but our culture is American. Those immigrants you're referring to do not accepts. I once said these same words to the mother of my high school friends. She was born in Haiti and pretty much her response was like...you get it. Midlo is a court jester. He doesn't get that the Nigerians I went to college with do not see themselves as black and how they conduct themselves, their school matriculation, the jobs they take etc. are not comparative with black Americas. But the truth is NONE of the truly ethnic minorities I encountered in college (as in students not born in America) did as poorly in general as the American born kids, pick a race. The Indian kids I worked with were like 21-22 working on their PhDs and already had their master's degrees.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#18 May 30, 2013
BTW

For the most part your post 11 was dead on. What drew my ire was at the end when you mentioned there being a reason that blacks go from enduring hardship to go to school, to what we have now. With not wanting to go at all and the high drop out rate.
But you never mentioned what that reason was.
I assume that the reason was the goverment assistance programs instituted but you never touched bases on anything. You just said people were lazy not to factor in some things that you yourself don't even mention. What you basicly said was "There are some vailid reasons...but we don't need to discuss them." Kind of odd really.

If you want to discuss what that reason is, thats fine. But when you mention their are reasons and don't list them. It would seem like an excuse to most anyone. Wouldn't you agree?
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#19 May 30, 2013
BTW wrote:
<quoted text>
This is partly why I think midloguy is an idiot. I can honestly say I agree with your post..may even 100%. I really believe the blame is to be shared. If I was talking to people abusing the system, I would only deal with their faults in it. Likewise, if I was talking to govt officials, I would only deal with their faults in how people abuse the system. Yeah...way too many people play the race card but it doesn't strike me as odd because people in general play whatever card they can get. I was just reading a veteran's comments on another blog and he was upset because he felt like too many vets commit crimes and pull a PTSD card. We also have a sexual harassment card. That to me, as wrong as it is, is to be expected from people. Whenever they can get over, most people will try to unfortunately. As far as your comments for studying other cultures...in reality, the context is too far off. Blacks are American born and like it or not have been Americanized back to the births of slaves on this continent. We don't naturally know anything but America. If you get to speak freely with ethnic groups from India, Asia, or Africa, they generally do not think well of Americans. They have great appreciation for the opportunities afforded to them here but there biggest fear is their children being Americanized and seeing the world as we do. That's why it would not work for blacks to "study other cultures." Black Nationalists would disagree with me but our culture is American. Those immigrants you're referring to do not accepts. I once said these same words to the mother of my high school friends. She was born in Haiti and pretty much her response was like...you get it. Midlo is a court jester. He doesn't get that the Nigerians I went to college with do not see themselves as black and how they conduct themselves, their school matriculation, the jobs they take etc. are not comparative with black Americas. But the truth is NONE of the truly ethnic minorities I encountered in college (as in students not born in America) did as poorly in general as the American born kids, pick a race. The Indian kids I worked with were like 21-22 working on their PhDs and already had their master's degrees.
Seems the first portion of your pst takes an attitude that 2 wrongs make a right. Playing the race card doesn't strike you as odd becuase other groups are doing it. It may not strike you as odd but it is still wrong. And you are not talking apples with apples anyway. Race is a much bigger topic then any of the others mentioned. You don't have veterns advocate groups garnering the media presence of black civil rights groups. I won't pretend I know what is going on with "vetern prejustice" in America.

But I know..I won't even come close to a senator being called an "elitist whiteboy" for pledging to send an entire gang to jail"

Whiteboy is a racist term. But Rush can get away with saying it. Kirk knows he can't arrest the whole folks nation. It should be taken by anyone with half a brain that he is calling for a hard stance on gangs in Chicago. You should have a problem with that?
Doesn't Chicago need that attitute in addressing its gang problem?
And look what he is called for his efforts.
Point is...The race card is played way more often. And with more social stigma for being called a racist then any other "woe is me" group.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#20 May 30, 2013
The last part of your post. I will try to be brief.

I am not happy with the state of America. These ethic groups that see Americans and don't like them....I agree with them.
We drink too much. We have too many sexual partners. Our women are too scandiously dressed. Out test scores when put against the rest of the world do not measure up. I could go on.

I know all these things. I do not deny them.
I am not an elitist.

So what does all that mean?

Does it change the facts about the HUGE gaps between blacks and whites in America.....in any way.

No...it does not. So frankly I don't understand your point.
midloguy30

Midlothian, IL

#21 May 30, 2013
midloguy30 wrote:
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Seems the first portion of your pst takes an attitude that 2 wrongs make a right. Playing the race card doesn't strike you as odd becuase other groups are doing it. It may not strike you as odd but it is still wrong. And you are not talking apples with apples anyway. Race is a much bigger topic then any of the others mentioned. You don't have veterns advocate groups garnering the media presence of black civil rights groups. I won't pretend I know what is going on with "vetern prejustice" in America.
But I know..I won't even come close to a senator being called an "elitist whiteboy" for pledging to send an entire gang to jail"
Whiteboy is a racist term. But Rush can get away with saying it. Kirk knows he can't arrest the whole folks nation. It should be taken by anyone with half a brain that he is calling for a hard stance on gangs in Chicago. You should have a problem with that?
Doesn't Chicago need that attitute in addressing its gang problem?
And look what he is called for his efforts.
Point is...The race card is played way more often. And with more social stigma for being called a racist then any other "woe is me" group.
How often does veteran prejustice make the news?

How often does sexual harrassment make the news?

Are there any leaders whose only fame is to speak on behalf of these oppressed people?

Do you feel that in cases of playing the veteran or sex harrass card that is treated as more of a singular case or does it warrant an outcry of a mass amount of people?

Do you think that Mark Kirks comments were racist?

Do you think Bobby Rush's comments were racist?

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