Active Homosexual Accepted Into Church Membership in Controversial United Methodist Case

Apr 1, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Magic City Morning Star

The homosexual man who precipitated the two year national controversy over the Rev. via Magic City Morning Star

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#23
Aug 2, 2007
 
Cathy wrote:
I've been learning about your god since reading your posts (despite your lack of spelling and grammatical knowledge). It seems to me your god is the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, genocidal, megalomaniacal, sadomosochistic, malevolent bully. Now his mindless followers (that would be you) are too busy worrying about who should be privy to enter your world of ignorance, rather than learning how to spell, write...or think.
South Hill would be better off fencing all the religeous nuts in Brodnax where they cite Bronze-age quotes to one another to their hearts' content.
Shame on South Hill for making this an issue.
The true God is nothing like that. Unfortunately most people take the Bible at face value without bothering to learn anything about Biblical history and the context in which it was written. They are far too busy cherry picking the verses, usually out of context, that suit their twisted agenda and ignoring everything else. I am a Christian and I also support my gay/lesbian/bisexual/trangende red brothers and sisters with all my being - no conflict.

“HERE TO STAY”

Since: Jul 07

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#24
Aug 2, 2007
 
A Grandmother wrote:
<quoted text>..........God is Love. I don't understand how anybody would believe that He would MAKE you homosexual.. when he says homosexuality will be PUNISHED.... He would not make you a particular way..then punish you for being that way. It seems that we believe IN God.., but we don't BELIEVE God!
WELL, THEN I MUST BE BE THE ONLY EXCEPTION... HE CREATES THOSE IN "HIS" IMAGE. I AM GAY, HAVE BEEN SINCE MY EARLIERST MEMORIES,, 4 YRS OLD,, THE ATTRACTION TO MEN... GROWING UP.. AND THEN THE SEX, JUST LIKE ANY STRAIT PERSON WOULD DEVELOP...GOD CREATES ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE..HE IS LOVE.. HE LOVES ME, THE GAVE ME MUSICAL TALENTS A HEART TO LOVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO BE LOVED... YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT GRANNY?? UNLESS YOU WERE BORN THIS WAY AND EXPERIENCE IT,, NO ONE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE..I'M A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH TOO .. WHAT CHURCH IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD DENY A MEMBERSHIP TO SOMEONE THAT GAY??... WE'RE ALL UNDER ONE GOD BUT APPARENTLY SOME CHURCHS ARE NOT ACCEPTING NEW SHEEP THAT ARE PART OF GOD'S PASTURE... THAT IS WRONG, ANY CHURCH THAT DOES THIS IS NOT A CHURCH AT ALL...
Jennifer

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Aug 6, 2007
 
A Grandmother wrote:
<quoted text>..........God is Love. I don't understand how anybody would believe that He would MAKE you homosexual.. when he says homosexuality will be PUNISHED.... He would not make you a particular way..then punish you for being that way. It seems that we believe IN God.., but we don't BELIEVE God!
Where does God say Homosexuality will be punished???? Can you PLEASE point that out to me? Never once have I seen God or Jesus discuss homosexuality!!!
Jennifer

Minneapolis, MN

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Aug 6, 2007
 
leta wrote:
I want some friends of mine who are gay to be able to go to church and worship the Lord. They are two of the most wonderful people that I have ever met. They are so spiritual and seeking to be loving to all of God's creation. My biggest concern in them going to church or anywhere else as a couple is how children might perceive them. I don't believe that their sin is any worse that an adulturer. I think the problem is when one choses to live a life of sin without repenting of the sin. And don't most homosexuals choose to stay in that sin? I don't want to judge them, I want to love them, but I don't want to give the message to children or anyone else that a lifestyle of sin is okay. I am praying for God to guide me in this because I am having a hard time knowing what to feel in it.
First you should read the Bible and sound biblical history before just believing the right wing who say that homosexuals are bad, horrible sinners. Jesus doesn't mention homosexuality and the references that do appear to be talking about homosexaulity seem to be talking about sexual lust and perversion - those in biblical times had no concept of sexuality in order to condemn one over the other!!!!!
Secondly, as far as setting a bad example for the children, I think the bad example would be in excluding someone or judging someone. I think showing God's love completely and reaching out and loving even those who are different would be a GREAT example!
ralph marlow

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Aug 6, 2007
 
being black is not a choice but neither is it a sin. being gay is only a problem of humans, not of animals. animals did not sin in the garden, but the human man did. there are people that say they can't leave the bottle alone. aperson don't have to be gay or have sex at all for that matter. it is something we all have to decide for ourselves. i only have to answer for me. i don't need to condemn anyone because the bible has done that already!!!
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Aug 6, 2007
 
verad wrote:
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The true God is nothing like that. Unfortunately most people take the Bible at face value without bothering to learn anything about Biblical history and the context in which it was written. They are far too busy cherry picking the verses, usually out of context, that suit their twisted agenda and ignoring everything else. I am a Christian and I also support my gay/lesbian/bisexual/trangende red brothers and sisters with all my being - no conflict.
I fully agree with you, whether I'm Christian or not. I think the only "sin" would be in having to live a lie -- I firmly believe God made homosexuals the way they are and they should NOT have to live in fear of reprisal. Anyway, a spirit (soul) has no gender.
Sheryl

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Aug 6, 2007
 
ralph marlow wrote:
being black is not a choice but neither is it a sin. being gay is only a problem of humans, not of animals. animals did not sin in the garden, but the human man did. there are people that say they can't leave the bottle alone. aperson don't have to be gay or have sex at all for that matter. it is something we all have to decide for ourselves. i only have to answer for me. i don't need to condemn anyone because the bible has done that already!!!
Homosexuality most certainly DOES occur in animals.
Petra Von Kamp

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Aug 7, 2007
 
david canales wrote:
what is going on here being a homosexual is cotrary to the word of god you are not chrstian nor true methodist if you are disobeying the scipture that needs to stop and we to defend sound doctrine
The Church is crying out for fresh members (no pun intended)!
Petra Von Kamp

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Aug 7, 2007
 
Sheryl wrote:
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leta, your post is full of compassion and I praise you for your charity. However, gays don't "choose" their sexual orientation; it is inborn. No "choice" involved.
I just always bear in mind that God loves ALL of us equally.
God loves Gays ...
Petra Von Kamp

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Dick wrote:
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God gave us a choice to sin or not to sin. Identical twins are born of the same egg. There are identical twins, one gay and the other not. Not possible to be born that way. God said "go and sin no more."
God gave you the right name, Dick.
YOUR ASS NOT MINE

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#33
Aug 17, 2007
 
GOD told man to go out in the world, and mutiply and another thing animals dont practice in homosexual activities. And GOD made EVE, for ADAM. I could care less what gay people do,its their choice . GOD has given people choices to make. Where did AIDS come from
Petra Von Kamp

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Aug 20, 2007
 
YOUR ASS NOT MINE wrote:
GOD told man to go out in the world, and mutiply and another thing animals dont practice in homosexual activities. And GOD made EVE, for ADAM. I could care less what gay people do,its their choice . GOD has given people choices to make. Where did AIDS come from
Adam and Yves ...
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#35
Aug 21, 2007
 
leta wrote:
I want some friends of mine who are gay to be able to go to church and worship the Lord. They are two of the most wonderful people that I have ever met. They are so spiritual and seeking to be loving to all of God's creation. My biggest concern in them going to church or anywhere else as a couple is how children might perceive them. I don't believe that their sin is any worse that an adulturer. I think the problem is when one choses to live a life of sin without repenting of the sin. And don't most homosexuals choose to stay in that sin? I don't want to judge them, I want to love them, but I don't want to give the message to children or anyone else that a lifestyle of sin is okay. I am praying for God to guide me in this because I am having a hard time knowing what to feel in it.
Homosexuality is a CHOICE. They chose to become involved with each other. Your friends need to know this. They need to repent and ask forgivness of their sins, just like every other Christian for every other sin. Homosexuality is no greater than lying. It's still a sin that needs to be repented of and given forgiveness.

Luke 15:7--I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over 99 just persons who need no repentance.
2 Peter 3:9-- The Lord is slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
1 Cor. 7--the whole chapter is about the principles of marriage.
1 Cor 6:9-10--...nor homosexuals...will inherit the kingdom of God
Acts 2:38--Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Since: Mar 07

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#38
Aug 22, 2007
 
Preachahmon wrote:
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even the women did change the natural use into that WHICH IS AGAINST NATURE.
And likewise also the men, LEAVING THE NATURAL
USE OF THE WOMAN, burned in thier LUST one towards
another; Men with Men WORKING THAT WHICH IS UNSEEMLY, and recieving in themselves that recompense of thier error which was meet."
(Romans 1:26-27)
This clearly shows the Christian Churches position
on one of the most controversal issues in today's
society, and the Bible is asserting this without
prejudice If that verse, Homosexuality and its
grotesque activities are clearly condemned as sin
or rebellion against God. You all are doing nothing personally against some liberal, and passive persons, But, just look at what you are doing against God. And when you are against God, you are an enemy to the people of God. If you are not of God, then you are definitely children of the devil. I don't know why some that call themselves Christians, take naive and passive approaches towards abnormal lifestyles. Perhaps, they are just hoping this problem will go away.
I wish to tell you this issue will be dealt with,
by the church, regardless of what laws are passed,
or what attitudes prevail. Our stance against this
"Devilish" thing is based on the word of God. We
are not going to recognize you for doing something or acting out a lifestyle that is proven against nature.
For a gay man, the "natural use of women" is anything but natural. A gay man cannot be attracted to women at all, only straight and bisexual men can. For a gay man, it would be unnatural, and thus prohibited by your very bible. Only for a straight man whould this verse be true.

I know a great many gay christians whose faith and belief in their creator is much deeper than yours, and their desire to follow Christ much stronger.

You can tell that by the lives they lead and the way they treat others, just as your refusal to follow in Christ's footsteps is apparent in your posts.

You might want to go back and read the words of the one you call savior before posting again.
GIVE IT OVER

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Aug 22, 2007
 
how come gay people cant have kids, because GOD made everything perfect. And man comes along and screws things up, thinking he is in charge. Satan is having a field day with all kinds of sins. Satan loves confusion, dont fall in his trap. Its not just about gay people sins,. its all sins. SATAN will rob you from GODS blessing.Just like drug addiction , no one can stop a addict from using drugs, but his self. Satan loves to destroy peoples lives, because he knows hes going to hell , and he wants you there with him.GOD LOVES EVERYONE, thats why he sent his son JESUS TO die on that cross, the blood coverd our sins. GOD is about life, if it was left up to gay people no one would be here, GOD wanted people to multiply , GOD wants our company.
non enycpted biologics

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#41
Aug 22, 2007
 
How is that going to work when the rod of god comes out and the love feasers start up with the spirit sex stuff?
Fags are listed as the killers and haters of children.
under standing some of us can feel are children unborn and known what are linage is .
As of 1992 the Government has admitted to 500,000 people being used in mind control and human spirit Radiation experiments.
Ih human experiments REF.
I object to the use of the word homophobia the truth here would more likly be Headrophobic serial killers still on the loose considering the Government has yet to compensate the people IT HAS ALLREADY admitted to attacking.
This is the truth as well as National security documents stating 50% of gays are put in to human spirit radition gang control groups as dangers to National security.
The FBI refuses to investigate people getting attack by so called russian physic weapons yet get billions in founding to counteract the problems from the 80's to date.
I watched America held hostage with Ted Koppel"The Iran Crisis" in which electronic anesthesia with large amplifiers filling two transport aircraft were to put the whole city a sleep but the mission fail giving Iran the top tecnologies in remote electronic weapons.
here look for your self http://www.hcuge.ch/anesthesie/anglais/eviden...
Some of us are tired of the lies and the FBI violating National security by hiering 1/3 gay and using profillers that are 30 years out of date.
A Reminder that no one is encrypted.
Your mind and spirit can be read 500 miles out in space , so please stop leing.
The white house is with holding records on remote cerebral intelligence of 911 and it's so clear the republicans tryed to kill congress and the senate in one big shoot , so don't lie about people that are victums of mind control used to scare people in to giving more money to over police all of us but hide the truth..

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