Gangster culture leads to bullying

Gangster culture leads to bullying

There are 91 comments on the Berkshire Eagle story from Apr 5, 2010, titled Gangster culture leads to bullying. In it, Berkshire Eagle reports that:

Throughout my academic career, I have been harassed by many, and I applaud whatever school administrator it was who took action against these delinquents.

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Katherine

Albany, NY

#111 Apr 16, 2010
Katherine wrote:
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I have an idea to curb alcoholism and the unnecessary harmful mass production and transportation of alcohol.
It is called the Alcohol Point Card.
Individuals who want to purchase alcoholic beverages would be issued a card by the State. It would only allow a certain amount to be purchased daily.
I was hoping you'd comment on the above..
Our Constitution protects our right to Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness, Freedom of Speech and Religion.
I don't think drinking oneself into liver damage and deterioration of the family unit constitutes Liberty but if it does shouldn't the right to assisted suicide also be covered?
Mary T

North Adams, MA

#112 Apr 16, 2010
Katherine wrote:
<quoted text>Greed leads to saturative advertising which leads to suffering which leads to bullying(abusive parenting styles) which leads to 'gangsterism'. It's a vicious circle.
Educators have long known the techniques for programming the mind. Children have been made to write statements on chalkboards stating what they will or will not do in order to bring about desired behaviors .
Making the Handbook to Higher Consciousness required reading from Grade 9 puts the power to control ones mind into each individual persons hands.( I believe the majority of people lack this power due to saturative advertising tactics directed towards children and families)
Children would be guided by educators to discover for themselves thoughts and behaviors which cause themselves suffering and given the tool to change , or not.?.
I request a study into the childhoods of the perpetrators in the Phoebe Prince bullying case. Where did they learn that such possessiveness of a love interest and attacking verbal abuse of others is acceptable?
I suspect the broadcasting of Soap Operas into the homes of Americans played an early role in this terrible tragedy. Many parents watch these 'programs' with young children by their side. They passionately live out by discussion as if the sordid lives of the actors were their own in front of impressionable babies, toddlers and teenagers.
It is sad that our Communities crumble while people sit glued to Soaps on the TV.
I agree, but, children do not watch soap operas, their parents do, and yes possibly learn and use bully tactics from them in front of their children and against their children. I am sorry but I see parents bullying their children and other children daily because they cannot control their tempers and have taken on too much responsibilty today with work, a home, a job, bills, kids,a husband and trying to find time for themselves, I see this overwhelming stress being taken out on children way too often... so sad!
Katherine

Albany, NY

#113 Apr 17, 2010
Mary T wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, but, children do not watch soap operas, their parents do, and yes possibly learn and use bully tactics from them in front of their children and against their children. I am sorry but I see parents bullying their children and other children daily because they cannot control their tempers and have taken on too much responsibilty today with work, a home, a job, bills, kids,a husband and trying to find time for themselves, I see this overwhelming stress being taken out on children way too often... so sad!
I do know 13-18 year old children who are devoted to Soaps, most were initiated into the 'need' to watch them by a parent.
True 13-18 year olds are in School at the time many of them are aired but now they can watch a replay on Soap Network or online.. I think Soaps have a good percentage of child followers, mainly females..
a mother

Clockville, NY

#114 Apr 17, 2010
My sister's and mother used to watch Soaps all the time back in the early days. They would talk about these people like they were our neighbors. I used to ask them who are you people talking about they would say you wouldn't know them. They were right I hate Soaps it's to much of a fake world for me to watch. It is mostly females that watch Soaps too. My mother never bully me but she was very clear in telling me the truth even if it did hurt. The truth is always the best to tell your children. I never bully my son either, my parents and I grew up with many responsibilities it is called "life" everyone has problems of some kind its how we handle it. I also think many TV like the show 70's these program are making fun of families instead of showing them how to deal with everyday problems we face the show's name call each other swears at them belittles them but make it seem like it is a joke but there is no fun in being degrade at any level.
Katherine

East Otis, MA

#115 Apr 19, 2010
a mother wrote:
My sister's and mother used to watch Soaps all the time back in the early days. They would talk about these people like they were our neighbors. I used to ask them who are you people talking about they would say you wouldn't know them..
I'm not making fun of you but that's funny..
a mother wrote:
I also think many TV like the show 70's these program are making fun of families instead of showing them how to deal with everyday problems we face the show's name call each other swears at them belittles them but make it seem like it is a joke but there is no fun in being degrade at any level.
Exactly..
Children learn from cartoons too.
My sons school used to have a plaque above the door that stated they were partners in education with KB Toys. My son learned the word idiot from 101 Dalmations. KB Toys marketed toys based on Disney Movies.
It took alot of patience to not snap at him when he would call me an idiot. I couldn't because I knew he learned it from a program that I allowed him to watch..
I wasn't happy when I saw the plaque above the doors at his School because I thought they were expecting flawless behaviors from students contradictory to behaviors modelled in movies and toys promoted by their partner in education.
Often times we as parents use the TV as a babysitter, to give ourselves some space from our children. While apart our children are learning ideas and values different from what we may want for them..
Katherine Gundelfinger

Albany, NY

#119 Apr 23, 2010
Robert Bertram wrote:
Why does it matter what values people -want- for their children? This is not a world where we have what we -want-. We must do what we can to get by. And what you -want- for your children may be different from the wants of someone else. Meaning that even if you DID get what you wanted for your children, their values would be at odds with the values of someone else, posing the same problem addressed in your spiel about TV teaching children values different from what you want for them.
If America were more centralized, and the children of America had a national figure to look up to, lapses in cultural values, it would be a different story.
If you are not worried about values being imposed on children through TV and other media influences, why are you trying to impose legal penalties on children who have been initiated into the tobacco culture by media, advertisers and parents?

I was hoping you'd comment on the below:
Our Constitution protects our right to Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness, Freedom of Speech and Religion.
I don't think drinking oneself into liver damage and deterioration of the family unit or smoking oneself into lung damage, both thereby overwhelming the health care system, constitutes Liberty, but if it does shouldn't the right to assisted suicide for terminally ill patients also be covered?

I disagree with imposing penalties after the fact.
I think the solution (to the problem of addiction which is overwhelming the health care system and soil degradation and deterioration) is to stop the mass production and packaging of alcohol and tobacco products and/or to mandate that dealers and the State enforce ration cards for purchase of these two particular commodities produced, bought and sold by corporate entities..
a mother

Clockville, NY

#120 Apr 23, 2010
Katherine wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not making fun of you but that's funny..
<quoted text>Exactly..
Children learn from cartoons too.
My sons school used to have a plaque above the door that stated they were partners in education with KB Toys. My son learned the word idiot from 101 Dalmations. KB Toys marketed toys based on Disney Movies.
It took alot of patience to not snap at him when he would call me an idiot. I couldn't because I knew he learned it from a program that I allowed him to watch..
I wasn't happy when I saw the plaque above the doors at his School because I thought they were expecting flawless behaviors from students contradictory to behaviors modelled in movies and toys promoted by their partner in education.
Often times we as parents use the TV as a babysitter, to give ourselves some space from our children. While apart our children are learning ideas and values different from what we may want for them..
Yes it was funny because I would always who, who I might know them and of-course they would say you wouldn't know them. Glad I could make you laugh it brought back many memories of my childhood thanks for listening.
Katherine

Albany, NY

#121 Apr 24, 2010
Robert Bertram wrote:
Why does it matter what values people -want- for their children? This is not a world where we have what we -want-. We must do what we can to get by. And what you -want- for your children may be different from the wants of someone else. Meaning that even if you DID get what you wanted for your children, their values would be at odds with the values of someone else, posing the same problem addressed in your spiel about TV teaching children values different from what you want for them.
If America were more centralized, and the children of America had a national figure to look up to, lapses in cultural values, it would be a different story.
What you've written above contradicts the sentiment behind your plan to fine young people for smoking. If what you've written above is the truth what do you care if young people smoke?
What is the driving force behind your plan to fine young people for possession of tobacco products? Is it because some young smokers called you a name?
Behind my as yet unsubmitted plans and ideas to curb addiction is the pain I felt watching my Father die from complications related to emphysema. My family suffered for years with tobacco addiction which ultimately led to the death of my beloved Father.
My addiction began as a young girl breathing in the smoke in our family home and car and at age 12 sneaking a try of one of Moms half smoked cigarettes when she was out.
Your use of the word 'spiel', which frequently denotes negative connotations, to describe my contributions to this debate, leads me to believe that anger and rage fuels your proposed legislation rather than true concern for the well-being of young people.
kate

United States

#122 May 1, 2010
I think in most cases you are rigjt but to an ecxtremev

Since: May 10

United States

#123 May 3, 2010
Mr. Bertram,

If it helps, I agree with you. I hope a thorough investigation is done on Phoebe's case! And the trial should be done far away from South Hadley!
I think my son's first experience of bullies was when he was walking home from middle school. A neighborhood boy was walking behind him and spat at my son's back of his head. Ever since that, it escalated in to fights between this boy, his brother, and "friends" of the boy through middle school and high school. If the parent (who happened to be a town cop) had told his son to cut it out, and apologize, I think things may be a little different now. I was told, that "the son comes from a good family".
Dylan

Bedford, IN

#124 May 17, 2010
Gangsta culture is entirely bad in my opinion.=) Of course other cultures have some negativity in them such as heavy metal and such but gangsta culture is mostly addressed because so many kids like it... sadly.

I'd also like to say that I think Robert can argue well.=)

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