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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201877 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#144258 Jun 3, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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I guess you haven't read the Constitution. 31 States have Constitutional Amendments preventing same sex marriage, if only 7 more States follow suit that is all it would take to ratify a Constitutional Amendment, then the SCOTUS wouldn't have a damn thing to say about it.
You better be careful just how hard you push, eventually you will piss enough people off to take the decision out of the courts hands.
Dream on, whacko.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144259 Jun 3, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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we did..........LOL
31 states voted and told you to go lock yourself in your closet and don't come out
Tons of people???
Do you weigh a ton??
Let's see at 100 lbs is 20 people per ton
Using the number of 100 lbs because of the large amount of aids, HEP and drug addiction
Now we have tens of millions of people that will LOCK you in your closet
Keep dreaming.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#144260 Jun 3, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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.......and those kids are raised just fine and turn out just as well adjusted as kids raised by parents of opposite-sex.
No they don't.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#144261 Jun 3, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>It will NEVER get out of Congress, and you know it.
It doesn't need to go to Congress you idiot, try reading the Constitution once in a while.

Since: Jun 07

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#144262 Jun 3, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Dream on, whacko.
Sounds more like a nightmare for you, only 7 more States needed and the dream could be over. Keep pushing though Mona.

Aren't you the one trying to push this nonsense that a majority of America is in favor of same sex marriage, completely ignoring the fact that each and every time it is put to a vote it fails? Completely ignoring the fact that 31 States have successfully passed Constitutional Amendment's? Completely ignoring the fact that even in the liberal capital of America- California- you fail to pass same sex marriage?

Keep living your dream Mona.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144263 Jun 3, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
not according to the constitution in 31 states..........ROTFLMAO
We have the numbers to send you back to your closet and there is nothing you can do about it
Keep dreaming.

Even in those states they still refer to it as gay marriage, whether it's legal or not.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144264 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Most religions and cultures have also rejected incest and polygamy.
All have rejected gay marriage through the bulk of their existence.
The bible certainly didn't reject incest and polygamy. In fact it has many examples.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144265 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I consider the benefit of the children.
Missing a gender in parenting is a negative.
In America, there is no shortage of heterosexual parents wanting to adopt. In fact, there is a waiting list.
What you avoid addressing is that marriage entails the healthiest setting BY FAR for most children. It is the fundamental and natural setting of societies relationships, INCLUDING EVERY SINGLE HOMOSEXUAL!
That fact alone distinguishes marriage from any other relationship and establishes unique rights and protections that no other relationship deserves.
So why aren't you trying to ban single parents from adopting as they can and do in every state? Why would you rather have a child in another country, where many of our adoptions come from, grow up being a ward of the state instead of with any parent at all? Talk about hard hearted.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144266 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
No they don't.
Facts About le$bian and Gay Parenting

Numerous well-respected authorities agree that children of same-sex parents are as healthy, happy and well-adjusted as their peers raised by heterosexual parents:

The Child Welfare League of America (CWLA) affirms that le$bian, gay, and bisexual parents are as well suited to raise children as their heterosexual counterparts.

The American Psychological Association, representing more than 155,000 psychologists, states that children of gay and le$bian parents are at no disadvantage psychologically or socially compared to children of heterosexual parents.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, the nation’s leading pediatric authority with 57,000 members, says that children who grow up with gay and/or le$bian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social and sexual functioning as children with straight parents.

The National Association of Social Workers, with nearly 150,000 members, agrees that research on gay and le$bian parenting shows a total absence of pathological findings in their children.

What Research Tells Us

A 1995 National Health and Social Life Survey by E.O. Lauman found that up to nine million children in America have gay or le$bian parents (Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health, 2002).

Evidence to date suggests home environments provided by le$bian and gay parents support and enable children's psychosocial growth, just as do those provided by heterosexual parents (Patterson, 1995)

There are no systematic differences between gay or le$bian and non-gay or le$bian parents in emotional health, parenting skills, and attitudes toward parenting (Stacey & Biblarz, 2001)

Evidence shows that children's optimal development is influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by its particular structural form (Perrin, 2002)

No studies have found risks to or disadvantages for children growing up in families with one or more gay parents, compared to children growing up with heterosexual parents (Perrin, 2002).

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#144267 Jun 3, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
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The bible certainly didn't reject incest and polygamy. In fact it has many examples.
Acknowledging broken human behavior and approval of it are two different things.

Of course, you have a clear difficulty distinguishing between differences, don't you?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#144268 Jun 3, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
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So why aren't you trying to ban single parents from adopting as they can and do in every state? Why would you rather have a child in another country, where many of our adoptions come from, grow up being a ward of the state instead of with any parent at all? Talk about hard hearted.
Where did I try to ban anything?

I'm simply stating reality.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#144269 Jun 3, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts About le$bian and Gay Parenting
Numerous well-respected authorities agree that children of same-sex parents are as healthy, happy and well-adjusted as their peers raised by heterosexual parents:
The Child Welfare League of America (CWLA) affirms that le$bian, gay, and bisexual parents are as well suited to raise children as their heterosexual counterparts.
The American Psychological Association, representing more than 155,000 psychologists, states that children of gay and le$bian parents are at no disadvantage psychologically or socially compared to children of heterosexual parents.
The American Academy of Pediatrics, the nation’s leading pediatric authority with 57,000 members, says that children who grow up with gay and/or le$bian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social and sexual functioning as children with straight parents.
The National Association of Social Workers, with nearly 150,000 members, agrees that research on gay and le$bian parenting shows a total absence of pathological findings in their children.
What Research Tells Us
A 1995 National Health and Social Life Survey by E.O. Lauman found that up to nine million children in America have gay or le$bian parents (Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health, 2002).
Evidence to date suggests home environments provided by le$bian and gay parents support and enable children's psychosocial growth, just as do those provided by heterosexual parents (Patterson, 1995)
There are no systematic differences between gay or le$bian and non-gay or le$bian parents in emotional health, parenting skills, and attitudes toward parenting (Stacey & Biblarz, 2001)
Evidence shows that children's optimal development is influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by its particular structural form (Perrin, 2002)
No studies have found risks to or disadvantages for children growing up in families with one or more gay parents, compared to children growing up with heterosexual parents (Perrin, 2002).
I have a simple request.

No one has yet been able to respond, maybe you will be the first.

Please give me the name and specifics of one or all of the 'studies' you list.

Smile.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144270 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Acknowledging broken human behavior and approval of it are two different things.
Of course, you have a clear difficulty distinguishing between differences, don't you?
How many wives did Moses have? It's not adultery if you're married to them all, right???

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#144271 Jun 3, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts About le$bian and Gay Parenting
Numerous well-respected authorities agree that children of same-sex parents are as healthy, happy and well-adjusted as their peers raised by heterosexual parents:
The Child Welfare League of America (CWLA) affirms that le$bian, gay, and bisexual parents are as well suited to raise children as their heterosexual counterparts.
The American Psychological Association, representing more than 155,000 psychologists, states that children of gay and le$bian parents are at no disadvantage psychologically or socially compared to children of heterosexual parents.
The American Academy of Pediatrics, the nation’s leading pediatric authority with 57,000 members, says that children who grow up with gay and/or le$bian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social and sexual functioning as children with straight parents.
The National Association of Social Workers, with nearly 150,000 members, agrees that research on gay and le$bian parenting shows a total absence of pathological findings in their children.
What Research Tells Us
A 1995 National Health and Social Life Survey by E.O. Lauman found that up to nine million children in America have gay or le$bian parents (Committee on Psychosocial Aspects of Child and Family Health, 2002).
Evidence to date suggests home environments provided by le$bian and gay parents support and enable children's psychosocial growth, just as do those provided by heterosexual parents (Patterson, 1995)
There are no systematic differences between gay or le$bian and non-gay or le$bian parents in emotional health, parenting skills, and attitudes toward parenting (Stacey & Biblarz, 2001)
Evidence shows that children's optimal development is influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by its particular structural form (Perrin, 2002)
No studies have found risks to or disadvantages for children growing up in families with one or more gay parents, compared to children growing up with heterosexual parents (Perrin, 2002).
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/sandbox/20...

"But behind the scenes, skeptics have emerged—and from an unexpected quarter. It's hardly startling to find conservative family-values crusaders and opponents of gay marriage balking at the verdict and challenging the validity of several decades' worth of data. As one of the most sober of them, Steven Nock of the University of Virginia, wrote in an affidavit in last year's Ontario Superior Court gay marriage case, "not a single one of those studies was conducted according to generally accepted standards of scientific research." What's jarring is to hear champions of family diversity and gay marriage chiming in. Who would have predicted this camp would come up with the most incisive critique of the claim that research has proved there are no differences between kids raised by gay and straight parents?"

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144272 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did I try to ban anything?
I'm simply stating reality.
Reality is that those who are trying to ban gay marriage or gay adoption because they're "concerned about children not having two parents" never make any attempt to ban single parent adoption.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144273 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a simple request.
No one has yet been able to respond, maybe you will be the first.
Please give me the name and specifics of one or all of the 'studies' you list.
Smile.
Give me the name and specifics of all the studies you've listed to help you prove your argument. Oh, you didn't even provide one. Because there are none.

All of mine can be researched on the net and obtained from journals.

Smile.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144274 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/sandbox/20...
"But behind the scenes, skeptics have emerged—and from an unexpected quarter. It's hardly startling to find conservative family-values crusaders and opponents of gay marriage balking at the verdict and challenging the validity of several decades' worth of data. As one of the most sober of them, Steven Nock of the University of Virginia, wrote in an affidavit in last year's Ontario Superior Court gay marriage case, "not a single one of those studies was conducted according to generally accepted standards of scientific research." What's jarring is to hear champions of family diversity and gay marriage chiming in. Who would have predicted this camp would come up with the most incisive critique of the claim that research has proved there are no differences between kids raised by gay and straight parents?"
Once again, where is the proof that it results in bad upbringing? Are you and your ilk unable to commission and perform a study you'd find acceptable???

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#144275 Jun 3, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/sandbox/20...
"But behind the scenes, skeptics have emerged—and from an unexpected quarter. It's hardly startling to find conservative family-values crusaders and opponents of gay marriage balking at the verdict and challenging the validity of several decades' worth of data. As one of the most sober of them, Steven Nock of the University of Virginia, wrote in an affidavit in last year's Ontario Superior Court gay marriage case, "not a single one of those studies was conducted according to generally accepted standards of scientific research." What's jarring is to hear champions of family diversity and gay marriage chiming in. Who would have predicted this camp would come up with the most incisive critique of the claim that research has proved there are no differences between kids raised by gay and straight parents?"
What's sad is that you'd rather have children raised by the state than raised by a gay couple. One day, whether you believe it or not, you'll have to answer for that.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#144276 Jun 3, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
<quoted text>
How many wives did Moses have? It's not adultery if you're married to them all, right???
Once again you show your brokenness. Bigotry of religion by trying to judge something you know nothing about (ignorance).

Moses had one wife.

But to my point of brokenness, but not in you; The Bible makes it clear many times of Moses' brokennesss. Murder, anger and more.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#144277 Jun 3, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
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Once again, where is the proof that it results in bad upbringing? Are you and your ilk unable to commission and perform a study you'd find acceptable???
Every hear of the 'Cinderella effect'?

It is a interesting combination of evolution and proof that a step/adoptive parent can never match a birth parent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_effec...

I know it's wiki, but the end lists a number of specific studies.

Smile.

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