Carson presses for 10.75% sales tax

Carson presses for 10.75% sales tax

There are 114 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Oct 30, 2010, titled Carson presses for 10.75% sales tax. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Carson shoppers will pay an additional penny on the dollar for purchases if voters approve Carson's Measure H on Tuesday.

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Since: Sep 10

United States

#107 Nov 2, 2010
Plain and Simple wrote:
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Yeah, but you won't fight to keep the money you earn in your pocket as well for your fellow residents that are NOT getting an increase in the social security, residents who have had work hours reduced, and lost employment altogether.... You rather give it to those that will flush it away with hostage tactics on public services.
Since you are being so generous with your wealth can you help me cover the recent 5% increase and proposed 10% increase for next semester for my daughther at CSUDH?
I managed my personal finances poorly and I asked you for help so you have to give me monetary assistance with no questions or objections....
Why are you ignoring the fact that many of our wants and needs come with a price tag? There are no hostage tactics here and if there are, they exist only in your imagination. The price tag for a good education comes with price increases just as new homes, new cars, groceries etc. etc. do.

If you choose to go through life with blinders on and just accuse those who are the closest to you for your own financial plight and refuse to take in the bigger picture, then so be it.

Now give me a few minutes will ya, I'm widening my fox hole for added comfort!!!
To All Citizens of Carson

Northridge, CA

#108 Nov 2, 2010
The problem is, as long as the common citizens don't stand together, our corporates have the upper hand. They didn't get so big and powerful by sitting back. That goes for BP and Daimler-Benz [re: Mercedes], and for all the others.

BP and the Deutsche Bank [re: DB] already made a deal in 1914, with Royal Dutch Shell, and their interests are still the same, in spite of the two wars. They just grew bigger [and more powerful], including IBM, thanks to these gruesome wars. In addition to them, we also have Anschutz here, our global entertainer. And these people KNOW how to "treat" our elected officials. Just ask Judge Leon, or SIEMENS: "Bribery Was Just a Line Item," as we had been told. And not a word about it in our "Daily Breeze"?

We did hear about the small fry, like Mayors Fajardo and Sweeney, who got locked up for a few years. But that didn't even scratch the surface, only the garbage collectors [i.e. "waste managers"]were involved, not our famous global players.

And "Say You Dont" wants to IGNORE all that?
What about Mayor Jim Dear and Julie Ruiz Raber?

I would vote for the increase now also, but THEN there's an urgent need for sound corrective action. Real ACTION that's long been overdue. And we need the full cooperation of the "Breeze."

We can't say "the past is past," as Winston Churchill had it pointed out, "without surrendering the future." And I'm sure even John Bogert would agree with that. And I'm more than willing to cooperate, in order to save the city, and also the future of its de facto helpless children. If we can assure the collaboration of Dear & Co., we could actually present a clear and very telling picture. And yes, the city was founded on my birthday, in 1968.

After having suffered "decades of neglect as an unincorporated part of Los Angeles County, the citizens went to the polls on Tuesday, February 6, 1968 to vote on whether to officially incorporate their community as an independent city."

And the records show that almost 10,000 of the 17,351 registered voters in Carson cast a vote on that February morning. When the ballots were finally counted, "the vote was 6,301 to 3,834 in favor of incorporation." An that's how it began in Carson, and the inspiring motto was "Future Unlimited."

Why I was sabotaged ten years later, is still a puzzling theme, and a conspiracy that was never fully exposed. Is that why their hands are still tied, in Torrance and in Carson? Our alert City Clerk has been around for some time, and also the "manager" in Torrance. But LeRoy prefers to keep silent, and he plays it safe.

But is that the best for the citizens?--is that all we actually deserve? And the same goes for the people here in Carson. And so we see, that one percent increase [to 10.75%] is NOT the crucial matter, with so many skeletons still hidden in the closet.
Say You Dont wrote:
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Anyone with half a brain knows enough to protect their very own home front. I know what we have here and it is a a lot more than what other cities have to offer to their residents. You have to pick your battles and pick them well. I will fight to protect what we have so that life here stays above the water line.
You may run if you wish my friend, but MY fox hole is here in Carson and I will fight to keep what we have whether it bothers you or not! Have a nice day!!!

Since: Sep 10

United States

#109 Nov 2, 2010
To All Citizens of Carson wrote:
The problem is, as long as the common citizens don't stand together, our corporates have the upper hand. They didn't get so big and powerful by sitting back. That goes for BP and Daimler-Benz [re: Mercedes], and for all the others.
BP and the Deutsche Bank [re: DB] already made a deal in 1914, with Royal Dutch Shell, and their interests are still the same, in spite of the two wars. They just grew bigger [and more powerful], including IBM, thanks to these gruesome wars. In addition to them, we also have Anschutz here, our global entertainer. And these people KNOW how to "treat" our elected officials. Just ask Judge Leon, or SIEMENS: "Bribery Was Just a Line Item," as we had been told. And not a word about it in our "Daily Breeze"?
We did hear about the small fry, like Mayors Fajardo and Sweeney, who got locked up for a few years. But that didn't even scratch the surface, only the garbage collectors [i.e. "waste managers"]were involved, not our famous global players.
And "Say You Dont" wants to IGNORE all that?
What about Mayor Jim Dear and Julie Ruiz Raber?
I would vote for the increase now also, but THEN there's an urgent need for sound corrective action. Real ACTION that's long been overdue. And we need the full cooperation of the "Breeze."
We can't say "the past is past," as Winston Churchill had it pointed out, "without surrendering the future." And I'm sure even John Bogert would agree with that. And I'm more than willing to cooperate, in order to save the city, and also the future of its de facto helpless children. If we can assure the collaboration of Dear & Co., we could actually present a clear and very telling picture. And yes, the city was founded on my birthday, in 1968.
After having suffered "decades of neglect as an unincorporated part of Los Angeles County, the citizens went to the polls on Tuesday, February 6, 1968 to vote on whether to officially incorporate their community as an independent city."
And the records show that almost 10,000 of the 17,351 registered voters in Carson cast a vote on that February morning. When the ballots were finally counted, "the vote was 6,301 to 3,834 in favor of incorporation." An that's how it began in Carson, and the inspiring motto was "Future Unlimited."
Why I was sabotaged ten years later, is still a puzzling theme, and a conspiracy that was never fully exposed. Is that why their hands are still tied, in Torrance and in Carson? Our alert City Clerk has been around for some time, and also the "manager" in Torrance. But LeRoy prefers to keep silent, and he plays it safe.
But is that the best for the citizens?--is that all we actually deserve? And the same goes for the people here in Carson. And so we see, that one percent increase [to 10.75%] is NOT the crucial matter, with so many skeletons still hidden in the closet.
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I find little advantage to be living in the past as you seem to be doing. I live for the future and therefore I plan for the future by encouraging our voters to vote out of office those who give us reason to believe that they are not working in the best interest of our residents. I seriously support ridding ourselves of Mayor Dear and Julie Raber. I have said so in the past here on Topix and I do in fact watch closely the conduct and habits of our council members. If we are to regain control of our government then we must start right here in our own front yards! With our local government under control, then we won't have to worry so much about watching our backs as we surge forward. Dump yesteryear and look forward my friend!
Plain and Simple

Carson, CA

#110 Nov 2, 2010
Say You Dont wrote:
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Why are you ignoring the fact that many of our wants and needs come with a price tag? There are no hostage tactics here and if there are, they exist only in your imagination. The price tag for a good education comes with price increases just as new homes, new cars, groceries etc. etc. do.
If you choose to go through life with blinders on and just accuse those who are the closest to you for your own financial plight and refuse to take in the bigger picture, then so be it.
Now give me a few minutes will ya, I'm widening my fox hole for added comfort!!!
I'll take that as a "NO" that you won't help me pay for my daugthers tuition increases
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Why are you ignoring the fact that citizens facing soaring unemployment and reduced incomes do not need more taxes and fees?

So-called public servants have failed and they are demanding the people fix the error of their ways with more money that will too be squandered by the same policies and practices.

When is it enough with these tax increases? They are asking for them every single election.

Since: Sep 10

United States

#111 Nov 2, 2010
Plain and Simple wrote:
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I'll take that as a "NO" that you won't help me pay for my daugthers tuition increases
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Why are you ignoring the fact that citizens facing soaring unemployment and reduced incomes do not need more taxes and fees?
So-called public servants have failed and they are demanding the people fix the error of their ways with more money that will too be squandered by the same policies and practices.
When is it enough with these tax increases? They are asking for them every single election.
May I point out to you that this tax increase is only felt by the residents when they spend their money. Just like the city having to tighten their belts, we as residents must do the same. The more you spend, the more you are taxed and that is everywhere that you go. Please keep in mind that you DO NOT have to vote in the taxes. A simple "NO" will do. And by the way, I do in fact wish your daughter "much success" with her education!
Plain and Simple

Carson, CA

#112 Nov 2, 2010
Say You Dont wrote:
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May I point out to you that this tax increase is only felt by the residents when they spend their money. Just like the city having to tighten their belts, we as residents must do the same. The more you spend, the more you are taxed and that is everywhere that you go. Please keep in mind that you DO NOT have to vote in the taxes. A simple "NO" will do. And by the way, I do in fact wish your daughter "much success" with her education!
I indeed have casted my NO on H as well as my family. If the tax goes up, it is never coming down. If measure H passes there will only be more tax and fee increases in between time until the expiration of this one, which they will put it back up to vote for an extension which pretty much makes it permanent.

A sincere thanks for your wishes as well, my daughther recently had her work hours reduced and she is paying for school mainly on her own with no loans/credit cards and staying out of debt with some assistance from dad......gov't officials could take note...
Carson resident

Warrenville, IL

#113 Nov 2, 2010
If prop H passes I will not shop in Carson !!!!!!!!!!
To Residents in Carson

Northridge, CA

#114 Nov 2, 2010
Carson resident wrote:
If prop H passes I will not shop in Carson !!!!!!!!!!
I can imagine that, if you're living in Pennsylvania.

Why would you drive all the way to Carson?
Just to visit Mayor Dear?
What is Your Bottom Line

Torrance, CA

#115 Nov 3, 2010
No on Measure votes have been heard. The city of Carson came out and finally said enough is enough.

Fool me once (Measure C), shame on you (city of Carson)
Fool me twice (Measure H), shame on me (voters)....this did not happen....yeah.

Carson residents we should be proud that we save ourselves from more deficit towards the city officials and staff bad habits. NOW THEY HAVE TO REALLY "TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS"....
What is Your Bottom Line

Torrance, CA

#116 Nov 3, 2010
No on Measure "H" votes have been heard, that is.
What is Your Bottom Line

Torrance, CA

#117 Nov 3, 2010
Thanks Fred Sands, Ken Phillips, Ikea, Dianne Thomas, Vera Robles Dewitt, Barbara Post, Pat Hellerud, Rita Boggs, and most importantly the citizens of Carson that voted no on Measure H. Our work continues, but this win is a start towards correcting a cancer...... and not putting a bandaid on it.
What is Your Bottom Line

Torrance, CA

#118 Nov 3, 2010
No on Measure H voters have been heard. The city of Carson came out and finally said enough is enough.

Fool me once (Measure C), shame on you (city of Carson)
Fool me twice (Measure H), shame on me (voters)....this did not happen....yeah.

Carson residents we should be proud that we saved ourselves from more deficit from the city officials and staff bad habits. NOW THEY'LL HAVE TO REALLY "TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS"....
What is Your Bottom Line

Torrance, CA

#119 Nov 3, 2010
MEASURE H Votes Percent
H - 1 CENT SALES TAX INCREASE - YES 7,805 41.86
NO 10,840 58.14
MAJORITY OF VOTES CAST



Registration 48,984
Precincts Reporting 50
Total Precincts 54
% Precincts Reporting 92

Resource: County of Los Angeles Recorder

Since: Oct 10

South Bay

#120 Nov 3, 2010
What is Your Bottom Line wrote:
No on Measure H voters have been heard. The city of Carson came out and finally said enough is enough.
Fool me once (Measure C), shame on you (city of Carson)
Fool me twice (Measure H), shame on me (voters)....this did not happen....yeah.
Carson residents we should be proud that we saved ourselves from more deficit from the city officials and staff bad habits. NOW THEY'LL HAVE TO REALLY "TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS"....
Like I said on the other thread, I didn't like the idea of a sales tax either, but whether you want to admit it or not, the city has taken a large hit in revenue. Torrance probably charges each household 8-10 times as much as Carson does in UUT's. If Carson got close to that, this tax raise wouldn't be needed.

That being said, and moving forward, the next few years in Carson are going to be dire, in my opinion. I don't know if you use any of the public services or spaces in Carson, or even if you are a resident, but things will be changing for the worse.

Fees, including non-resident fees, have already been raised on most things. Park operating hours have been cut. And now that this potential revenue stream has been eliminated, the $9 million shortfall for this year (and projected for the next 5 years to come) will undoubtedly lead to permanent elimination of special events, programs, and many jobs.

According to the 2009-2010 budget posted here http://ci.carson.ca.us/content/files/pdfs/bud... , it looks like about $25.75 million was spent on salary and wages to full-time and part-time employees.

Now you and I can agree that there are definitely some jobs that could disappear without much impact. But seeing that much of the extra programming has already been cut, if you want to balance the budget form now on on the money paid to employees, about 40% of the workforce would have to be laid off.

You think that might impact the city a bit?

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