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Thread for apologies from those criticizing Deputy Lewis

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Richmonder

Sandston, VA

#1 Aug 15, 2008
http://www.halifaxprosecutor.com/press.htm

Read the report and watch the video.

There are several of you who should be flocking back here to apologize publicly to the officer involved.

Somehow, I doubt any of you have the guts to admit you were wrong and to publicly apologize for degrading the officer.
BOLARESP

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#2 Aug 15, 2008
Richmonder wrote:
http://www.halifaxprosecutor.c om/press.htm
Read the report and watch the video.
There are several of you who should be flocking back here to apologize publicly to the officer involved.
Somehow, I doubt any of you have the guts to admit you were wrong and to publicly apologize for degrading the officer.
You will get none on here.Every message board that I went to had people on them that found the officers guilty and in their minds,even after seeing the video,they will still be guilty.I have posted on another board and as on that board I stand by my comments.Case closed good ruling.
betty

Hillsboro, WV

#3 Aug 15, 2008
I am sorry that the officer involved had to go through this. I am sorry that there are people that have commented to the previous threads that would have liked nothing more than to see this officer "pay". This officer will "pay" for the rest of his life, for the decision he made will stay with him for the rest of his life. I will take it upon myself to apologize for the ignorant ones that don't have the guts to do it themselves.

Thank you Deputy Lewis for everything that you have done for us and will continue to do for us.
Bob

Harrisonburg, VA

#4 Aug 15, 2008
betty wrote:
I am sorry that the officer involved had to go through this. I am sorry that there are people that have commented to the previous threads that would have liked nothing more than to see this officer "pay". This officer will "pay" for the rest of his life, for the decision he made will stay with him for the rest of his life. I will take it upon myself to apologize for the ignorant ones that don't have the guts to do it themselves.
Thank you Deputy Lewis for everything that you have done for us and will continue to do for us.
Sorry still can't see what you see.The two that got hit was jumping all over that car not the car hitting them and the third guy never came close to be hit.The first guy had his gun drawn but didn't kill the guy so what the heck the last one killing him for?No matter what you post what I see is not self defense.Can't say Neal was right in what he did,but can say killing him was right either.Never thought it would be any different findings .The police are going to be right no matter what. May Lewis live with what he did.What does what they find out about this guy make it ok to kill him.
Mr Anonymous

South Boston, VA

#5 Aug 16, 2008
It's ok, Bob. You can be as blind and ignorant as you want to be. It's the great thing about America.
shadow

Kernersville, NC

#7 Aug 16, 2008
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry still can't see what you see.The two that got hit was jumping all over that car not the car hitting them and the third guy never came close to be hit.The first guy had his gun drawn but didn't kill the guy so what the heck the last one killing him for?No matter what you post what I see is not self defense.Can't say Neal was right in what he did,but can say killing him was right either.Never thought it would be any different findings .The police are going to be right no matter what. May Lewis live with what he did.What does what they find out about this guy make it ok to kill him.
bob you are correct ! this people on here are blind and always will be !i saw the same thing you did!
betty

United States

#8 Aug 16, 2008
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry still can't see what you see.The two that got hit was jumping all over that car not the car hitting them and the third guy never came close to be hit.The first guy had his gun drawn but didn't kill the guy so what the heck the last one killing him for?No matter what you post what I see is not self defense.Can't say Neal was right in what he did,but can say killing him was right either.Never thought it would be any different
findings .The police are going to be right no matter what. May Lewis live with what he did.What does what they find out about this guy make it ok to kill him.
I watched the same thing you watched, the only difference is that I wasn't out for this Deputy's head from the beginning. There were also other people at the gas station and I can guarantee that statements were gotten from all of them. Before you go on another rampage, I'm sure they were talked to individually and not as a group. From what I saw it was justified, if I were in Deputy Lewis' place, I would have done the same thing. That wouldn't be me being a bad ass, that would be me doing my job!
Monk

Cullen, VA

#9 Aug 16, 2008
I'll go on record as saying thank you to the officer from removing this guy from the gene pool.

More seriously, my prayers are with the family of the dead idiot as well as with all of the officers involved. If the mentality of the family is even close to that of Shadow, I am sure the civil suit will begin with great haste.
Bob

Harrisonburg, VA

#10 Aug 17, 2008
Monk wrote:
I'll go on record as saying thank you to the officer from removing this guy from the gene pool.
More seriously, my prayers are with the family of the dead idiot as well as with all of the officers involved. If the mentality of the family is even close to that of Shadow, I am sure the civil suit will begin with great haste.
Yes, this is what we in America do kill our own.Glad we have someone like you and officer Lewis there to do that for us,less we get our hands dirty.Keep your prayers,I'm sure yours they don't need.You sound as smart as you say Shadow is.Maybe you should run for police chief sounds like you would fit right in there.
Monk

Cullen, VA

#11 Aug 17, 2008
You are quite bitter.

I have killed no one. I abide by the law. It's what we do in a civilized society. This fellow had the opportunity to follow the law. He did not. He paid a high price-one that ultimately is costing his loved ones the most.

Sad that he cannot be here to change his ways, but the choices he made landed him in eternity.
Bob

Harrisonburg, VA

#12 Aug 17, 2008
Monk wrote:
You are quite bitter.
I have killed no one. I abide by the law. It's what we do in a civilized society. This fellow had the opportunity to follow the law. He did not. He paid a high price-one that ultimately is costing his loved ones the most.
Sad that he cannot be here to change his ways, but the choices he made landed him in eternity.
Bitter,heck no.Sounds more like you are buddy.My response was to your thread.Neal was not shown a badge nor did the cop say he was a cop,Kim White's own words.Where did this guy run from a cop?
Monk

Cullen, VA

#13 Aug 18, 2008
Kim White's own words? Please quote. I fail to see that.
Monk

Cullen, VA

#14 Aug 18, 2008
From the report:

"Within four seconds of Investigator Mocarsky's initial encounter with Neal Seamster, the surveillance tape shows the investigator Mocarsky reaching at his neck and pulling the chain upon which his badge was displayed. As he was pulling out his badge Investigator Mocarsky said to Neal Seamster "How about talking to us for a minute."

Further:
"Observing this, Investigator McGregor got out of the task force vehicle and ran towards the car being driven by Mr Seamster yelling 'Stop! Police!' As Investigator McGregor approached the Chevrolet HE PULLED HIS POLICE BADGE FROM THE INSIDE OF HIS SHIRT and displayed it on a chain."

And just for giggles:
"The witness also stated that she could hear the law enforcement officers yelling at Mr Seamster for him to stop the car. The civillian witness stated that she knew those who were yelling we police officers and that SHE COULD SEE THE BADGES HANGING DOWN FROM THEIR NECKS."

Okay, once more:
"By then Investigator McGregor had drawn his gun and was continuing to yell 'Stop! Police!'"

Sort of blows your claim away, so to speak.

I've met Investigator Mocarsky out of uniform for my job. There is no doubt to anyone who meets him that he is a police officer. He is also, if memory serves me, a Marine. SO he is no stranger to doing things by the book. He is the very epitome of a professional police officer, as are almost all of our police officers in Halifax County, with very few exceptions.

Again, I will repeat to you that Kim White is not a "player" and she is not going to risk her professional reputation to cover up for some cops. If the police officers had been in the wrong, she would have come right on out & said so. Her family has a long history in law in Halifax County and in the Commonwealth of Virginia. She is the embodiment of integrity and honesty.

You, sir, have few facts and have much anger, which frankly baffles me.
Bob

Harrisonburg, VA

#15 Aug 18, 2008
Monk wrote:
From the report:
"Within four seconds of Investigator Mocarsky's initial encounter with Neal Seamster, the surveillance tape shows the investigator Mocarsky reaching at his neck and pulling the chain upon which his badge was displayed. As he was pulling out his badge Investigator Mocarsky said to Neal Seamster "How about talking to us for a minute."
Further:
"Observing this, Investigator McGregor got out of the task force vehicle and ran towards the car being driven by Mr Seamster yelling 'Stop! Police!' As Investigator McGregor approached the Chevrolet HE PULLED HIS POLICE BADGE FROM THE INSIDE OF HIS SHIRT and displayed it on a chain."
And just for giggles:
"The witness also stated that she could hear the law enforcement officers yelling at Mr Seamster for him to stop the car. The civillian witness stated that she knew those who were yelling we police officers and that SHE COULD SEE THE BADGES HANGING DOWN FROM THEIR NECKS."
Okay, once more:
"By then Investigator McGregor had drawn his gun and was continuing to yell 'Stop! Police!'"
Sort of blows your claim away, so to speak.
I've met Investigator Mocarsky out of uniform for my job. There is no doubt to anyone who meets him that he is a police officer. He is also, if memory serves me, a Marine. SO he is no stranger to doing things by the book. He is the very epitome of a professional police officer, as are almost all of our police officers in Halifax County, with very few exceptions.
Again, I will repeat to you that Kim White is not a "player" and she is not going to risk her professional reputation to cover up for some cops. If the police officers had been in the wrong, she would have come right on out & said so. Her family has a long history in law in Halifax County and in the Commonwealth of Virginia. She is the embodiment of integrity and honesty.
You, sir, have few facts and have much anger, which frankly baffles me.
You,sir,want to keep putting this angry thing in the picture.Maybe you to are a cop because seem to get the facts wrong on your side of the table too.If we lived our lives in seconds and made all our judgment decisions in split seconds where would we be.That cop did not have his badge out!Neal was not looking at him while he was trying to take it out because he was busy backing that car up.This guy more than likely never saw the cop that shot him.Seconds are seconds so they call them that dude.As far as witnesses go I looked at the film and the only thing moving other than Neal was the causal bikers and a gray looking van that had stopped for the bikes.I've looked and looked to see the first cop chasing the car and I can't see him pulling on a badge.Sorry the cop in the van had his gun out from the time he got out of the suv til this thing was over with.You,sir are either blind or just plain don't want to believe what the truth is or something.As far as Kim White,she's elected,she side with the cops,she does answer to,the state,does'nt she.To her this was a low life,read the report.From day one her office and the cops were working togather to get this report ready to reflex what it took to justify this shooting and we all know it.They took everything in the video and went over it till it made sense why he shot this guy.If I was angry it would be because these cops chased this guy and killed him over a gutted cigar.Your friend the first cop went and got in the suv and shut his door.If he was doing his job in the first place his badge would've been out when he came out of the store to speak to Neal.He would've said police when he approached the car,Thank you.
betty

United States

#16 Aug 18, 2008
Bob-I will pose this question to you again, hoping that you will answer me. Your life or someone else's? Which would you choose? Little known fact, Bob. If I have a concealed weapons permit and you are driving towards me trying to run me over with your car, I can shoot you. Not even being a law enforcement officer, I can still shoot you if I think my life is in danger. I would double tap your ass and not think twice about it.
Monk

Cullen, VA

#17 Aug 18, 2008
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>You,sir,want to keep putting this angry thing in the picture.Maybe you to are a cop because seem to get the facts wrong on your side of the table too.If we lived our lives in seconds and made all our judgment decisions in split seconds where would we be.That cop did not have his badge out!Neal was not looking at him while he was trying to take it out because he was busy backing that car up.This guy more than likely never saw the cop that shot him.Seconds are seconds so they call them that dude.As far as witnesses go I looked at the film and the only thing moving other than Neal was the causal bikers and a gray looking van that had stopped for the bikes.I've looked and looked to see the first cop chasing the car and I can't see him pulling on a badge.Sorry the cop in the van had his gun out from the time he got out of the suv til this thing was over with.You,sir are either blind or just plain don't want to believe what the truth is or something.As far as Kim White,she's elected,she side with the cops,she does answer to,the state,does'nt she.To her this was a low life,read the report.From day one her office and the cops were working togather to get this report ready to reflex what it took to justify this shooting and we all know it.They took everything in the video and went over it till it made sense why he shot this guy.If I was angry it would be because these cops chased this guy and killed him over a gutted cigar.Your friend the first cop went and got in the suv and shut his door.If he was doing his job in the first place his badge would've been out when he came out of the store to speak to Neal.He would've said police when he approached the car,Thank you.
Bob, sir, you are overlooking the biggest facts of all! Seamster was breaking the law. He was also endangering the lives of civilians and officers. You are being intentionally obtuse (at least I hope you are intentionally not seeing the facts.)

I assure you that Kim White does not automatically side with the police. It just so happens, sir, that the police were in the right here. How can you honestly think otherwise? Kim White, as an elected official, is obligated to the VOTERS OF HALIFAX COUNTY-we hired her, not the police departments. Another of her duties as CA of Halifax County is to oversee these types of investigations. I can attest to the fact that she is thorough, objective, and fair.

I have been approached by the undercover guys before, and the first thing they did was show their badge. I was smart enough to stop when an officer told me to. Perhaps if Seamster had done the same, he would be sitting in a cell somewhere rather than pushing up daisies. AT any rate, I find it hard to believe that these four highly trained men did not extend their badges.

Based on your logic in assuming that I am a LEO, can I assume by the tone of your posts that you are a felon? Perhaps a drug user/abuser? Yes? I thought so.

Discussing this with you further is pointless. I refuse to see your points because your points can not be backed up by either logic or common sense. Goodday, sir.
Monk

Cullen, VA

#18 Aug 18, 2008
betty wrote:
Bob-I will pose this question to you again, hoping that you will answer me. Your life or someone else's? Which would you choose? Little known fact, Bob. If I have a concealed weapons permit and you are driving towards me trying to run me over with your car, I can shoot you. Not even being a law enforcement officer, I can still shoot you if I think my life is in danger. I would double tap your ass and not think twice about it.
You rock, Betty!
Bob

Harrisonburg, VA

#19 Aug 18, 2008
Monk wrote:
<quoted text>
Bob, sir, you are overlooking the biggest facts of all! Seamster was breaking the law. He was also endangering the lives of civilians and officers. You are being intentionally obtuse (at least I hope you are intentionally not seeing the facts.)
I assure you that Kim White does not automatically side with the police. It just so happens, sir, that the police were in the right here. How can you honestly think otherwise? Kim White, as an elected official, is obligated to the VOTERS OF HALIFAX COUNTY-we hired her, not the police departments. Another of her duties as CA of Halifax County is to oversee these types of investigations. I can attest to the fact that she is thorough, objective, and fair.
I have been approached by the undercover guys before, and the first thing they did was show their badge. I was smart enough to stop when an officer told me to. Perhaps if Seamster had done the same, he would be sitting in a cell somewhere rather than pushing up daisies. AT any rate, I find it hard to believe that these four highly trained men did not extend their badges.
Based on your logic in assuming that I am a LEO, can I assume by the tone of your posts that you are a felon? Perhaps a drug user/abuser? Yes? I thought so.
Discussing this with you further is pointless. I refuse to see your points because your points can not be backed up by either logic or common sense. Goodday, sir.
Thank you very much but neither of the above would apply to me.Not a felon,or drug user and only had one speeding ticket in my life.By the way I was speeding.Read Kim White's report where she said herself his badge was not out.
citizen

Trenton, NJ

#20 Aug 18, 2008
Over and over again I have read claims that Mr. Seamster came from a good family. Yet this is what kind of family we find out he came from:

"A family member of Mr. Seamster had contacted a magistrate in Danville about Mr.
Seamster turning himself in. However, the family member stated that she could not get him to
do so nor could she get Mr. Seamster’s father to assist her in getting him to turn himself in."

Some family that is - If his father had turned him in, then that father may still have a son. But did he really aver have one if this is how he acted?
betty

United States

#21 Aug 18, 2008
Monk wrote:
<quoted text>
You rock, Betty!
Thanks Monk!! I have posed this question to Bob before and have never received a response, I'm not holding my breathe for one now either.

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