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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201846 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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heartandmind

Moline, IL

#188006 Apr 10, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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Oh but it is Big D. Haven't you heard that MSNBC superstar, Melissa Harris-Perry? Every once in awhile a lib' slips up and reveals what the real agenda is. It's fascism with a socialist american twist. According to Melissa, that old fashioned notion that our kids belong to their parents has to go, right along with traditional marriage and individual responsibility. The children of america belong to the community. The "collective" is the term Melissa used. So if the left continues to score victories and advance or evolve our system into their fascist, politically correct version intolerance, the whole freedom experience will be done for eternity. Start the frog in cold water and then gradually turn up the heat.
just because one idiot says something doesn't make it true for the whole group.

or do you subscribe to the thought that in the case of rape, women can just shut that whole thing down, too?

there's idiots on both sides, buddy. face it. and they often will open their pie holes and embarass the whole group.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#188007 Apr 10, 2013
Dorn wrote:
12 There are eunuchs born so from their mother's womb, there are eunuchs made so by human agency and there are eunuchs who have made themselves so for the sake of the kingdom of Heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.
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This explains that homosexuality is not a choice.
Also, if homosexuals become priests they should be castrated so they do not molest boys.
http://thetruthpursuit.com/society/society-bl...

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599...

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188008 Apr 10, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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I was married to a woman and have had sex with hundreds so I'm not confused just wasn't being honest to myself because society said it was wrong when I was growing up. I wish I had been honest with myself earlier on and not gotten married.
Fair enough, thanks for the honesty.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188009 Apr 10, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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the dem from Louisiana's not going to change no matter what. if she did, then some redneck from back home would come looking for her in DC....and that's pretty scary.
actually, they just want to keep their job.
What has been fun to watch is the other side, scrambling to get on board, this is yet another issue that republicans will be in the minority on if they donít jump to the other side of the line.

Which they are doing more every week.

There is a civil war brewing, between hard line ultra conservatives and the mainstream GOP ( which admittedly really arenít all that bad ) If you think there were fireworks in the last nomination process, wait till the next one.

The mainstream GOP is not going to take a loss like that again easily, they are going to want to run more moderate candidates that donít have to act like right wing nut jobs to get nominated.

It will be fun to watch

For SSM it is a win-win situation, as the ultra conservatives still have not figured out that they cannot divide themselves into a majority, only a smaller minority. And mainstream GOP are coming on board for equality and justice.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188010 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I have a terrible sense of humor, unfortunately most of the jokes I know and enjoy are not for ... polite company :)
My brothers and I... we find humor in just about everything, and nothing is sacred
I did enjoy that one of yours.
You know why some girls start going to church? They heard there was a white guy hung like this ( arms outstretched )
That last line was funny. Ya know Big D, even though we "duel", debate back and forth, and you come across sometimes as being on high, you sound like you'd be a funny guy to break garlic bread with. Now back to our program.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188011 Apr 10, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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just because one idiot says something doesn't make it true for the whole group.
or do you subscribe to the thought that in the case of rape, women can just shut that whole thing down, too?
there's idiots on both sides, buddy. face it. and they often will open their pie holes and embarass the whole group.
"pieholes"? Are you a friend of Old SniffsButt Bill?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188012 Apr 10, 2013
Before judging Alina, Valerie and Vicki, the three wives of Joe Darger, try the experiment Joe Henrich offers his college students in his evolutionary-psychology class at the University of British Columbia. Imagine, he says, that you have to choose between two potential spouses. You feel the same about each. Each cherishes you. Lover A is a regular, middle-class individual. Lover B is a billionaire, the kind with time and money to spare. The caveat is that Lover B is already married and wants to add you as a second spouse, which for the purposes of this experiment is completely legal. Which would you choose? "Seventy percent of the women said they'd be willing to consider being the second wife of the billionaire rather than the average guy's first wife," says Henrich. "Only about 10% of the men would consider it if the scenario were reversed."

It's a completely unscientific test, but even so, the results are a little jarring. A majority of this sample of young, educated Western women would at least contemplate marrying the billionaire bigamist. Doesn't this fly in the face of decades of laborious cultivation of women's power? Doesn't it run counter to the classic love story of boy meets girl and they live happily ever after? Isn't it just weird and cultish?

Proponents of defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman have long argued that if we entertain variations on that theme, like gay marriage, the institution will soon become unrecognizable. "If you think it's O.K. for two [men to marry], then you have to differentiate with me as to why it's not O.K. for three," said former presidential hopeful Rick Santorum on the campaign trail, echoing a common refrain. Even though there's no historical precedent linking one to the other, growing public support for gay marriage has nonetheless gladdened the hearts of polygamists. "If people are open to gay marriage, it impacts on how they look at plural marriage," says Darger, who lives with his three wives and 18 of his 23 children in Herriman, Utah, about 25 miles from Salt Lake City. "You can't talk about gay marriage and still criminalize us for who we love and how we organize our families."

Close observers of the marital topography are noticing a shift in attitudes toward polygamy and its sister wife, polyamory, which can roughly be defined as having multiple lovers by mutual agreement. Partly this is a result of a decades-long wholesale rethinking of the institution of marriage and who society and the courts say can engage in it. But it's also a result of more exposure to polygamous lifestyles. Some polygamists, sensing unsteadiness in the big ship monogamy that has always blocked their passage to the oceans of normality, are trying to navigate their way to validation of their version of family.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188013 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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That last line was funny. Ya know Big D, even though we "duel", debate back and forth, and you come across sometimes as being on high, you sound like you'd be a funny guy to break garlic bread with. Now back to our program.
Sometimes?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188014 Apr 10, 2013
So Big D, should polygamy b legal? We wouldn't want to stay in the dark ages, now would we?
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#188015 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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What has been fun to watch is the other side, scrambling to get on board, this is yet another issue that republicans will be in the minority on if they donít jump to the other side of the line.
Which they are doing more every week.
There is a civil war brewing, between hard line ultra conservatives and the mainstream GOP ( which admittedly really arenít all that bad ) If you think there were fireworks in the last nomination process, wait till the next one.
The mainstream GOP is not going to take a loss like that again easily, they are going to want to run more moderate candidates that donít have to act like right wing nut jobs to get nominated.
It will be fun to watch
For SSM it is a win-win situation, as the ultra conservatives still have not figured out that they cannot divide themselves into a majority, only a smaller minority. And mainstream GOP are coming on board for equality and justice.
i read earlier this week that ol' governor big hair (and big head) from down here in texas wants to run for the GOP presidential nomination again.

geez. like he wasn't whipped badly enough the last time. what's really bothersome is that down here in texas, no one can stand him, yet he keeps being re-elected into the governor's seat. no one understands it. no one 'fesses up and says they actually voted for him.

if the GOP entertains Perry again & lets him run, even in the primaries, they'd have shot themselves in the foot and lost any credibility with the voting public they might gain in the coming year or two with the scrambling going on in the GOP.

louisiana's even worse. jindal's messed things up royally. i have family living there - and they're complaining almost as much as us texans are.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188016 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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That last line was funny. Ya know Big D, even though we "duel", debate back and forth, and you come across sometimes as being on high, you sound like you'd be a funny guy to break garlic bread with. Now back to our program.
Im probably not as bad as I appear here on this forum.

I laugh more than I rant.

Last night my brother came by and said he was annoyed the the churches have finally won on the gay issues.

I asked him what he meant.

and he said... "Look at the news, all these ballot measures and court cases to allow same sex marriage, and right along with them measures to make marijuana legal"

I said... "so"

He replied "So the churches finally get their way, Homosexuals are to be stoned!"
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188017 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188018 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Im probably not as bad as I appear here on this forum.
Yes, you are.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188019 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Im probably not as bad as I appear here on this forum.
I laugh more than I rant.
Last night my brother came by and said he was annoyed the the churches have finally won on the gay issues.
I asked him what he meant.
and he said... "Look at the news, all these ballot measures and court cases to allow same sex marriage, and right along with them measures to make marijuana legal"
I said... "so"
He replied "So the churches finally get their way, Homosexuals are to be stoned!"
Tell him not to quit his day job.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188020 Apr 10, 2013
Warning! True marriage equality being discussed! Get out plenty of "Off Topic" judge-it's, Big D et al will need them.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188021 Apr 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Tell him not to quit his day job.
Well he hasnít quit his day job, but he is requested more and more in clubs in the area, he has a really good stand-up comic routine, better at it than I would be, and usually better than the headliner they have had.

He is the one that told me how anal sex is like spinach

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188022 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Im probably not as bad as I appear here on this forum.
I laugh more than I rant.
Last night my brother came by and said he was annoyed the the churches have finally won on the gay issues.
I asked him what he meant.
and he said... "Look at the news, all these ballot measures and court cases to allow same sex marriage, and right along with them measures to make marijuana legal"
I said... "so"
He replied "So the churches finally get their way, Homosexuals are to be stoned!"
As I was reading that, I wasn't sure where it was going. Then I got to the punch line. Bazinga! Funny.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188023 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
So Big D, should polygamy b legal? We wouldn't want to stay in the dark ages, now would we?
Let me predict Big D's answer will be something like-

"Yes it should be legal because I realize it would be hypocritical to say otherwise so it should be legal even though polygamists use polygamy to commit their crimes of child rape and welfare fraud and no one wants it and it has a very very bad image and Frankie is not carrying signs for it."
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188024 Apr 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Well he hasnít quit his day job, but he is requested more and more in clubs in the area, he has a really good stand-up comic routine, better at it than I would be, and usually better than the headliner they have had.
He is the one that told me how anal sex is like spinach
Requested at more and more Modesto comedy clubs! YUK!YUK!YUK! Good one!

Please don't tell us about anal and spinach. Please.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188025 Apr 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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As I was reading that, I wasn't sure where it was going. Then I got to the punch line. Bazinga! Funny.

Yeah he is pretty funny

But it is all in the timing of how he says it. It doesnít come across as funny here.

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