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Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#686 May 5, 2013
The implication isn't genocide. It's cultural homogenization and assimilation of the community by self-interested financial and social forces, leading to community destruction, and not just the counter-cultural community as those forces might desire, but all community bases within the city.

It requires pandering to fear and reaction. That's where TBSC comes in... with the same SUBROSA (sic...k) agenda as the DTA and the Santa Cruz Chamber of Commerce.

Oh yeah, and those SCCC and DTA related elements use fear and reaction to advertise at you and sell stuff you really don't need.

Problem... Reaction... Solution...
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#687 May 5, 2013
About three months ago I saw a local media cameraman in San Lorenzo Park with a police officer.

They walked up to someone who looked like an addict sitting by the Duck pond and proceeded to film the guy, who was doing nothing but sitting there.

I recognized the guy operating the camera from other places and times as a TV crew cameraman and asked him if he was working for the SCPD.

STONE SILENCE. I asked again... He turned his back on me to avoid further identification (I had a camera in hand) and wandered away with me asking him loudly if he was working for the SCPD.

Eventually he and the officer wandered off together, leaving the 'person-of-interest without so much as the officer ever pulling out his note pad or ticket book. As far as I could tell from the distance, the officer never called in either.

Never did get a response, but I suspect incidents like that... The PD giving 'tours' of their favorite people, whom I term "The USUAL Suspects" along with FILE FOOTAGE from local TV stations anxious to pander to the city, hoping for their (reportage) good graces, get mashed-up into these sorts of videos.

They are, by definition, propaganda... of the "Grey" persuasion.

Although the "A" on that tree looked really fresh... like it just got painted... by guess who?

Make that "Black" Propaganda... When it comes to Anarchists, and fear-pandering.
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#688 May 5, 2013
I heard there were counter-protesters outside Ferells at the TBSC event.

That's a good thing.

TBSC already consists mostly of Xenophobic fear freaks...

Stalk 'em...
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#689 May 5, 2013
Name calling is not truth, it is bullying though.
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#690 May 5, 2013
Except that last little bit on Neuropsychology perhaps, but what of it?

After all, the city of Santa Cruz is a corporatist entity attached at the wrist and ankles to the DTA and certain development interests such as the commercial property interests and more lately, due to the avowed intent to develop, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, a 'telecommuting city' that will STILL leave the average worker in Santa Cruz praying that IN-n-Out comes to town and not Watsonville so they can fight for a minimum wage job that won't pay the rent no less the commute to Watsonville.

My take is TBSC is a proto-fascist organization with a hidden agenda that directly correlates to the wishes of the DTA, the Santa Cruz Chamber of Commerce, and, through Ryan Coonerty's friend @ NExtSpace (cruzio is in this mix too... Their motto...'Buy local, buy crap for an internet provider' hasn't panned out so they're going in the the cubie-leasing market too), the telecommuting transients who have no problem paying $2,000 plus a month for rent because they come from far away and can write it off on their taxes.

TBSC is party to ALL OF THAT because the underlying premise, as it is with ALL right wing vigilante organizations is: "I got mine, and you can just get out of the fucking way"

The people they're attempting to push out of the way are the city's disenfranchised. low level workers who don't fit the 'facework' labor demands of the DTA's SHOPPING MALL.. A FAILING SHOPPING MALL, using junkies speedfreaks anarchist whatever as the "threat" that the disenfranchised are alleged to represent.

So... There's your demonization and Institutional slander.

Any fucking questions?

Bullshit someone else. If you don't understand how an article about demonization, scapegoating people and institutional slander relate to the scumbags that founded and set the overall agenda for the direction of a Santa Cruz vigilante organization called Take Back Santa Cruz, you're either ignorant (my guess), lying, or a 'true believer'(Eric Hoffer's usage representing a potential Blackshirt).
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#691 May 5, 2013
No word yet that TBSC leaders have decided to come clean and do the Save Our Shores style warnings to their volunteers not to disturb homeless gear. Or did I miss something?

Word from Steve Pleich at Friday's "loiter in" was that TBSC organizers told him they simply wander through the day before and "warn" people to move their stuff or risk having it taken.

I'll be playing his interview on Thursday night's Free Radio show 6-8 PM.

I also received a report from Ricardo the guitarist that vigilantes, who he claims are TBSC, were operating in tandem with police to destroy homeless property as he watched. They'd approach homeless people to take their stuff and use police back-up with threats of tickets if the homeless people resisted the seizure.

It's strange that leaders don't simply say "we tell our people not to do that" or "we encourage extreme care"--if they want to respect the property of the poor.

But then their rhetoric about "illegal campers" and "panhandlers" as well as the inflated politically-handy scare stories about "violence", drunks, and druggies suggests what their mindset is.
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#692 May 5, 2013
I think its natural for people to question TBSC's motives. When Anarchists collaborate to hold an event, feed people, teach people or even show a movie, they are demonized for not getting permits. But thats what its about, doing things collectively for free without the aide of corporate or Government interests. I find it interesting the parallels of TBSC claiming to have no leaders. Yet, unless they meet and vote in a collective manor someone is leading and making all the decisions of who goes where and what they do and support while the lowly followers follow.

Nobody would care if your flyers did not target homeless and poor people. In the late Eighties we had Take Back the Night. It was successful in helping women, gay and straight feel empowered and safer downtown by walking large groups etc. There were no permits and nobody ranted on that it was evil.

The first people to go during the beginning of Hitlers rise from Chancellor to full on dictator in 52 days were the poor and sick. The economy was bad, people went along, they cheered. When we see people acting in similar ways, albeit far from Hitler, yes I am concerned. I know my history and I see the parallels. I hope TBSC will act as a collective, vote, have meetings and decide what you really are. Why not fight for better mental health rather than bother the cops by asking everyone to call every time they see a panhandler or someone violating a sit on a planter law? This is the type of things I read and wonder what the fuck is this group really about and do the members even know, or are they just being led like puppets? Somebody makes decisions and yet everyone who says they are part of TBSC says, they have no leaders.

I think TBSC could end up being a positive if they simply changed a bit.
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#694 May 5, 2013
RANDY Q WRITES: "One day he posted the comment under the name Dan B Smith. The IP address showed a city other than Santa Cruz. Well Becky did a google search for a Dan B Smith in Santa Cruz and found a construction business owned by that person. She started posting in her Topix comments that people should boycott the business. Said that the owner hated homeless people. Said that the owner of the business made horrible comments about women's weight issues. She was kind of relentless. She was determined to cause him trouble at his business. The big problem with all this is that the Dan B Smith she started attacking online was not the guy making comments to her online. It was a totally different person. So she thought she had someone's identity and smeared an very innocent person who had nothing to do with it. "

BECKY: First, DBS is DAN B SULLIVAN
see: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

DAN B SULLIVAN WRITES: "I outed myself you FAT fool"--April 12 2009

DBS DOES hate homeless people. I can link to hundreds of bigoted posts.
DBS also ridicules fat people. For a little while, DAN posted under
DAN B SULLIVAN. So I looked up Dan B Sullivan , looking for someone who owned a business
in Santa Cruz as DAN has claimed.

I came up with this: http://www.dansullivanconstruction.com/

So I ASKED DBS online ONE TIME if THIS was him.
I ASKED him to confirm or deny whether it was him.

He stonewalled me which led me to believe I probably had/have the right guy.

Then I ASKED if he was worried that people who are overweight would boycott his business when they found out how badly he ridiculed people for being fat.

The ONE post where I did this, has been deleted by TOPIX monitors, so I can't link to it.
RANDY Q claims I "outed" DAN mulitiple times. He is incorrect. And I never claimed that I knew for sure that it was him. There was never more than ONE post which ASKED if DBS is Dan. B. Sullivan of Santa Cruz and living on Baymount St. in Santa Cruz. He declined to confirm or deny.

Since I could not be sure it was him, I made no further posts.
And I didn't harm Dan B. Sullivan in any way since all I did was provide him with more advertising.

RANDY Q CLAIMS that I claimed that DBS is DAN B. SMITH. He is wrong. Dan B. Smith is NOT DBS as far as I know.

Finally, DAN has repeatedly attempted to get ME fired from MY job. If anyone can prove damages in court, it will be me against DAN rather than DAN against me.
DBS

Sunnyvale, CA

#695 May 5, 2013
How's the job search going "Sum Dim"

Any leads?

Or is FAT Pat more likely to run a 3 minute mile?
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#696 May 5, 2013
DBS wrote:
How's the job search going "Sum Dim"
Any leads?
Or is FAT Pat more likely to run a 3 minute mile?
You know I have a job, DBS.
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#697 May 5, 2013
DBS wrote:
How's the job search going "Sum Dim"
Any leads?
Or is FAT Pat more likely to run a 3 minute mile?
I took RC up on the $8 an hour digging job as a friendly gesture, not because I need the money.

You should have joined us. I know your daddy set you up with a nice trust fund, but I think you should work to earn your own living.
Sum Dim

Foster City, CA

#698 May 5, 2013
Sum Dim wrote:
RANDY Q WRITES: "One day he posted the comment under the name Dan B Smith. The IP address showed a city other than Santa Cruz. Well Becky did a google search for a Dan B Smith in Santa Cruz and found a construction business owned by that person. She started posting in her Topix comments that people should boycott the business. Said that the owner hated homeless people. Said that the owner of the business made horrible comments about women's weight issues. She was kind of relentless. She was determined to cause him trouble at his business. The big problem with all this is that the Dan B Smith she started attacking online was not the guy making comments to her online. It was a totally different person. So she thought she had someone's identity and smeared an very innocent person who had nothing to do with it. "
BECKY: First, DBS is DAN B SULLIVAN
see: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
DAN B SULLIVAN WRITES: "I outed myself you FAT fool"--April 12 2009
DBS DOES hate homeless people. I can link to hundreds of bigoted posts.
DBS also ridicules fat people. For a little while, DAN posted under
DAN B SULLIVAN. So I looked up Dan B Sullivan , looking for someone who owned a business
in Santa Cruz as DAN has claimed.
I came up with this: http://www.dansullivanconstruction.com/
So I ASKED DBS online ONE TIME if THIS was him.
I ASKED him to confirm or deny whether it was him.
He stonewalled me which led me to believe I probably had/have the right guy.
Then I ASKED if he was worried that people who are overweight would boycott his business when they found out how badly he ridiculed people for being fat.
The ONE post where I did this, has been deleted by TOPIX monitors, so I can't link to it.
RANDY Q claims I "outed" DAN mulitiple times. He is incorrect. And I never claimed that I knew for sure that it was him. There was never more than ONE post which ASKED if DBS is Dan. B. Sullivan of Santa Cruz and living on Baymount St. in Santa Cruz. He declined to confirm or deny.
Since I could not be sure it was him, I made no further posts.
And I didn't harm Dan B. Sullivan in any way since all I did was provide him with more advertising.
RANDY Q CLAIMS that I claimed that DBS is DAN B. SMITH. He is wrong. Dan B. Smith is NOT DBS as far as I know.
Finally, DAN has repeatedly attempted to get ME fired from MY job. If anyone can prove damages in court, it will be me against DAN rather than DAN against me.
DBS: Did you read this yet?
DBS

Sunnyvale, CA

#699 May 5, 2013
Sum Dim wrote:
<quoted text>
You know I have a job, DBS.
No John, spamming government employees with useless FOI requests is not a "Job".
DBS

Sunnyvale, CA

#700 May 5, 2013
Sum Dim wrote:
<quoted text>
DBS: Did you read this yet?
So what???

Your point is???

And that doesn't stop you from being a 21 year Welfare parasite either!
Reality Check

San Leandro, CA

#701 May 5, 2013
Sum Dim wrote:
RANDY Q WRITES: "One day he posted the comment under the name Dan B Smith. The IP address showed a city other than Santa Cruz. Well Becky did a google search for a Dan B Smith in Santa Cruz and found a construction business owned by that person. She started posting in her Topix comments that people should boycott the business. Said that the owner hated homeless people. Said that the owner of the business made horrible comments about women's weight issues. She was kind of relentless. She was determined to cause him trouble at his business. The big problem with all this is that the Dan B Smith she started attacking online was not the guy making comments to her online. It was a totally different person. So she thought she had someone's identity and smeared an very innocent person who had nothing to do with it. "
BECKY: First, DBS is DAN B SULLIVAN
see: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
DAN B SULLIVAN WRITES: "I outed myself you FAT fool"--April 12 2009
DBS DOES hate homeless people. I can link to hundreds of bigoted posts.
DBS also ridicules fat people. For a little while, DAN posted under
DAN B SULLIVAN. So I looked up Dan B Sullivan , looking for someone who owned a business
in Santa Cruz as DAN has claimed.
I came up with this: http://www.dansullivanconstruction.com/
So I ASKED DBS online ONE TIME if THIS was him.
I ASKED him to confirm or deny whether it was him.
He stonewalled me which led me to believe I probably had/have the right guy.
Then I ASKED if he was worried that people who are overweight would boycott his business when they found out how badly he ridiculed people for being fat.
The ONE post where I did this, has been deleted by TOPIX monitors, so I can't link to it.
RANDY Q claims I "outed" DAN mulitiple times. He is incorrect. And I never claimed that I knew for sure that it was him. There was never more than ONE post which ASKED if DBS is Dan. B. Sullivan of Santa Cruz and living on Baymount St. in Santa Cruz. He declined to confirm or deny.
Since I could not be sure it was him, I made no further posts.
And I didn't harm Dan B. Sullivan in any way since all I did was provide him with more advertising.
RANDY Q CLAIMS that I claimed that DBS is DAN B. SMITH. He is wrong. Dan B. Smith is NOT DBS as far as I know.
Finally, DAN has repeatedly attempted to get ME fired from MY job. If anyone can prove damages in court, it will be me against DAN rather than DAN against me.
This is awesome, Dim!!!!!

Thanks for finding it!!!!
Reality Check

San Leandro, CA

#702 May 5, 2013
DBS wrote:
<quoted text>
No John, spamming government employees with useless FOI requests is not a "Job".
I can confirm that I paid Sum Dim $8 an hour to help me dig up my leech field, and he did an excellent job.

He's a hard worker, unlike DBS who never showed up.

DBS must prefer the comfort of his couch and the fat trust fund his father set up for him.
DBS

Sunnyvale, CA

#703 May 5, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
I can confirm that I paid Sum Dim $8 an hour to help me dig up my leech field, and he did an excellent job.
He's a hard worker, unlike DBS who never showed up.
DBS must prefer the comfort of his couch and the fat trust fund his father set up for him.
Sure thing nutbag!

Did the undercover SCPD Methcookers come and help out too?

How much of your SSI check did you have to pay them?
Reality Check

San Leandro, CA

#704 May 5, 2013
DBS wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure thing nutbag!
Did the undercover SCPD Methcookers come and help out too?
How much of your SSI check did you have to pay them?
Unlike you and your family, DBS, I have never accepted any form of public assistance.

Relevant threads....

DBS: My Family Paid for Your Family's Education
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

Are all TBSC members unemployed like DBS?
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

The DBS Klan: Leeching off America Since WWII
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
Sum Dim

Concord, CA

#705 May 8, 2013
So, Leigh Meyers, posting on Indybay about a park for which security costs $160,000 per year, is bemoaning the fact that that $160,000 could be used to "subsidize" any number of youth in employment. I pointed out that...

"Of course...
by Larry Pearson
Wednesday May 8th, 2013 11:34 PM
...that $160,000 is doing exactly what you're suggesting it should be doing, namely subsidizing employment for youth. You realize that, right?"

Sadly, the Indybay Thought Police were not about to brook any actual logic being brought to bear upon the discussion, and promptly deleted my comment.

:-)
Sum Dim

Fremont, CA

#706 May 9, 2013
The person who committed this crime was released from a state hospital for the criminally insane without proper clearance and was only "Homeless" in the sense that he got thrown out on the street by a dysfunctional state psychiatric facility system in error.

Shannon Collins was a friend to the poor and homeless of Santa Cruz and her family BEGGED THE MEDIA NOT TO BLAME IT ON THE HOMELESS in the wake of the tragedy... and you disgrace her name. You are a very sick individual yourself. Get psychological help

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