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Palo Alto, CA

#172 Sep 7, 2013
Sockpuppet wrote:
Look at the last 3 comments, all from John Trollby and his assortment of sockpuppets!
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/08/29/...
"Reality Check", "zouzou", and "Hero"
We all know who "Reality Check" is. It's pretty obvious who "zouzou" is. And "Hero" is the best sockpuppet yet!
Hero?!? HEROLARIOUS!!!!
Instead of looking for a job, a place to live, or even help for his pathetic situation with MGA, this dipshit is still trolling IndyFeign about Dylan and who else, Take Back Santa Cruz.
IndyFeign has done nothing for John, yet John continues to parrot his dumb ass conspiracy theories over there.
A fool and his apartment are soon parted. In 13 days!
The Loon is gone in 12 days, actually....
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic...
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#173 Sep 7, 2013
Sockpuppet wrote:
Look at the last 3 comments, all from John Trollby and his assortment of sockpuppets!
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/08/29/...
"Reality Check", "zouzou", and "Hero"
We all know who "Reality Check" is. It's pretty obvious who "zouzou" is. And "Hero" is the best sockpuppet yet!
Hero?!? HEROLARIOUS!!!!
Instead of looking for a job, a place to live, or even help for his pathetic situation with MGA, this dipshit is still trolling IndyFeign about Dylan and who else, Take Back Santa Cruz.
IndyFeign has done nothing for John, yet John continues to parrot his dumb ass conspiracy theories over there.
A fool and his apartment are soon parted. In 13 days!
I will take this as a request to archive that thread!
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#175 Sep 7, 2013
"I was tired of all the hate. I definitely saw a lot of hate on the Take Back Santa Cruz website. I got personal messages when I had the Report Your Local Lurker website that were absolutely evil.
The recent TJ Magallanes article is a timely read.

People were talking about poisoning the homeless, lighting their RVs on fire, beating them up at night. It just made me see the evil in this world. You know, never underestimate the stupidity of people in a group. It’s mob rule, and basically reminds me of a riot."

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/05/22/1...

Now, with the news of Dylan Greiner's arrest; the lack of concern shown by TBSC members, on topics like rape, are all the more revealing.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#176 Sep 7, 2013
TBSC has exposed it's hypocrisy

This incident with Greiner has exposed the TBSC group as hypocrites in their claims that they aren't anti-homeless.

Example:

-When the guy got busted for supposedly stealing a bouquet of flowers from the Police memorial for slain officers, TBSC president Annalicia Cube made statements to the press saying they'd investigated the guys history, new him to be homeless, were sick of this behavior being allowed in Santa Cruz, showed up at his arraignment in large numbers, etc.

But when their poster boy Greiner gets busted? Cricket chirps. A throat clearing "um, well, monsters lurk in shadows everywhere"..and then its move along, scrub his name from our group, and lets pretend this didn't happen.

So hey Annalicia and TBSC? Where are the loud protests of anger from you now, when we have a real problem? Child molesters you stay quiet, but flowers you go flashmob? Where were you at Greiner's arraignment hearing? Where are your outraged statements to the press?

Hypocrites. You've revealed your organization for what it truly is: An Anti Homeless posse and little more.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#177 Sep 7, 2013
Anti Homeless posse and (a) little more.

They also represent the commercial real estate industry in Santa Cruz. They oddly enough support the lower Ocean st redevelopment into a Redwood City look-alike neighborhood while their followers, many from Lower Ocean, unaware of that overarching agenda, will get redeveloped out of their homes.

Nuisance laws such as the ones that affect the homeless serve only two interests. THe real estate industry and the local police-industrial complex. The video has the details.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#178 Sep 7, 2013
TBSC and The Clean Team are part of the problem.

Dylan Greiner, apparently a (formerly) core member of Take Back Santa Cruz, has been arrested for alleged sex crimes. That is responsible reporting. To claim that ALL Take Back Santa Cruz members are suspected pedophiles would be irresponsible reporting.

TJ Magellanes, apparently the founder of The Clean Team, has left town, allegedly because of a harrassment campaign that included violent threats. That is responsible reporting. To claim that ALL Clean Team members are suspected hate driven stalkers would be irresponsible reporting.

Note that those examples of irresponsible reporting are quite similar to the 'broad brush''by association' ad hominems so common amongst Take Back Santa Cruz and Clean Team supporters. That is a troubling. Thankfully law enforcement has finally started doing something about (at least one) dangerous member of TBSC.

Note that Take Back Santa Cruz seems to have little concern for the alleged victims of Dylan Greiner, and are frantically distancing themselves from his crimes. Their priorities are revealing, and troubling.

Note the controversial video recording of Clean Team abuse. The Clean Team seems to have little concern about that vigilante trend, and were frantically distancing themselves from such 'individuals'. Their priorities are revealing, and troubling.

Note the controversial comments made by Steve Schlicht. Steve, and TBSC (including Mayor Bryant), seems to have little concern about the implications of that mindset, and were focused on the 'leaks'. Their priorities are revealing, and troubling.

Note that the alleged crimes of Dylan Greiner have generated concerned calls from troubled parents in and outside of Santa Cruz. I assume that means tourists may have been victims. That is bad for Santa Cruz businesses.

Note that the 'safety board' has ignored the issue of rape in Santa Cruz. That is troubling. Even more so, given their embarrassing support of Dylan Greiner. Take Back Santa Cruz members are on that 'safety board'. A similar situation was allowed to fester at Penn State University, and the breadth and depth of that sex crime cover up is still unclear. Stopping such a devastating scandal in Santa Cruz, before it impacts local businesses, seems wise, to me, although such a horrific scandal may have already begun, due to the alleged actions of a (formerly) core member of Take Back Santa Cruz.

Note that Indybay has been covering these issues for some time. That is responsible reporting.

If TBSC and the Clean Team feel it is within their rights to stain Santa Cruz with such scandals, and the broader community does nothing, then I suppose the homeless should prepare to be blamed for that too, for there seems to be little accountability amongst the 'proper citizens' that make up Take Back Santa Cruz and the Clean Team, at least until TBSC members like Dylan Greiner are arrested.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#179 Sep 7, 2013
is there a take back Santa cruz from Take back santa cruz group yet?

maybe a closed group on FB?
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San Mateo, CA

#180 Sep 7, 2013
One of your most outspoken members, Skindog Collings, was videotaped harassing a homeless guy, poking him with a garbage stick, and intimating that he'd have his friends come and "f*ck the guy up" WHILE ON A CLEAN TEAM WORK CREW.

Maybe it's you who out to step out and see what's going on? Pretty unsavory members you're cleaning up trash with.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#181 Sep 7, 2013
Judge Symons Cuddles Child Molesters

TBSC loves Judge Symons for calling for a get tough policy on homeless loiters. Yet when it comes to a child molester, she refuses to let the DA search the molester's computer for child porn. Some monsters are sitting on the bench.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#182 Sep 7, 2013
Vigilante behavior by Clean Team caught on video March 16, 2013

Ken Skindog Collins, was videotaped harassing a homeless guy with the Clean Team, poking him with a garbage stick, video here:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/05/15/1...

TRANSCRIPT OF THE CLEAN TEAM AT CARBONERA CREEK MARCH 16, 2013 VIDEO

Ken Collins: Are they stolen? They’re yours? You brought these? Is that all your garbage laying around in the river and all around you? You want some bags to help pick it up?
Man in Sleeping Bag: I’ve got a bunch of trash bags.

Ken Collins: Well, fuckin' put the trash in the bags, dipshit!
Man in Sleeping Bag: I do!

Ken Collins: No you don’t

Ken Collins: So right now we’re at one of these encampments, and you can see they're not living a really clean life style; they don't really care about the environment They're leaving junk everywhere. They're throwing garbage. They're throwing needles everywhere. They just ignore us. They don't care.
Hello, I’m talking to you.(pokes man in a red sleeping bag with a long 'trash clutcher'). I want to ask you some questions."

Man in Sleeping bag: Don’t touch me!(visibly disturbed) You got a lighter?

Ken Collins: No I don't have a lighter. I've got some garbage bags if you want to help...
Man in Sleeping Bag: Want me to come to your house and start picking through your shit?

Ken Collins: You probably do. You probably come and pick shit out of my fucin’ driveway and my bikes and my skateboards all the time.
Male Clean Team Member: You already took my wetsuit.
Man in Sleeping Bag: Well, you guys have a nice day.

Ken Collins: We are trying to. But this is not what we wanted to do on a Saturday. I want to ask you, what you what do think we could do....
Man in bag: You’re not getting any more answers out of me.
Female Clean Team Member 1: Please help us, dude.

Ken Collins: What happens if ah....Fuck, dude it can get pretty gnarly dude, I know some guys who want to fuck you guys up.(Clean Team members laughing and heckling in the background)

Ken Collins: Where you from? If you were from here, you'd have a little more respect for the environment, I assume. So you just steal every night, get your junk, and just leave garbage everywhere. Is that how you work? Do you have any respect for yourself? I mean seriously...
Female Clean Team Member 2: Where did you steal that Santa Cruz hat from? You wear that Santa Cruz hat with pride, and you do this in Santa Cruz?

Female Clean Team Member 1: Thanks for helping us out.
Ken Collins: You don't pick up your garbage. I mean look at this fucking mess.

Female Clean Team Member 3: This isn’t going to last much longer.
Female Clean Team Member 1: We’ll be coming back.
Female Clean Team Member 4: I’ll come back every day!
Female Clean Team Member 2: I’m sick of parasites destroying the beauty of this place.
Female Clean Team Member 1: We can’t even bring our kids down here.

Ken Collins: I say just we just get a bucket and throw water on him.

More at: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/05/15/1...
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#183 Sep 7, 2013
Wow, judge Symons barred a search of the suspects computer for child porn?!

Usually Santa Cruz judges give the DA whatever they want!

That the judge would bar a search for child porn, in a sex crime case, is shocking!

I wonder if the judge had advance knowledge of what might be discovered..
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#184 Sep 7, 2013
TBSC Turning SC into a Magnet for Child Molesters

Dylan Greiner needs Symons on his case.

Judge Symons goes easy on a child molester, where was TBSC?
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_21635732/...

Instead this is the kind of fake crime Take Back Santa Cruz inflicts on the innocent
http://huffsantacruz.org/wordpress/flower-fel...

If you want to attend a TBSC or Clean Team meeting, better drop your kids off at a Sanctuary Camp first.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#185 Sep 7, 2013
does anyone know who really runs TBSC?

We know Analicia is the public mom face.
and her sister does the books.

but has anyone actually analyzed how they operate ....
1) using subterfuge
2) anonymous directors
3) intimidation
4) false goals and premises

whose playbook is being used as a blueprint?

do your homework people and don't assume the story given to the media is the truth.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#186 Sep 7, 2013
Two Molesters in Todays Sentinel Alone

SC a Magnet for molesters

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci...

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/copsandcourt...

Along with Judge Symons, District Attorney Bob Lee wastes resources on loiterers, sleepers, drunks, and peaceful activists, instead of real crime.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci...
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#187 Sep 7, 2013
TBSC refuses SCPD request

The Santa Cruz Police Department is asking that the public get the word out so that more families can assess whether their children were victimized by Take Back Santa Cruz member Dylan Greiner. Greiner, a surfing instructor, was a TBSC member and he was promoted extensively by the group in the community before he was arrested for molesting young girls and filming them. As a result, more children may have become victims.

Take Back Santa Cruz so far has refused to honor this request by the Santa Cruz Police Department.

It sure is odd that Take Back Santa Cruz members seem to know and care so little about public safety, but I'm not surprised because I knew the group has been a front for anti-homeless bigotry since it was founded by Analicia and Dexter (who is a criminal himself).

Take Back Santa Cruz has most likely denied this request from the SCPD because many of their members want to run for political office, and they dont want the bad publicity.

At the very least, TBSC should have posted a predator alert for Greiner on their website, but no such warning has been made to TBSC's members.

TBSC does indeed post predator warnings on their website. One such warning still remains on their website even though the man was found innocent of the charges against him.

Take Back Santa Cruz: Stop the hypocrisy and do the right thing!
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#188 Sep 7, 2013
Re: the clean team video with Ken crazyguy Collins

someone said that Lynn Robinson was on that particular clean team outing.

If so, has anyone ever asked her questions in regards to this incident?
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#189 Sep 7, 2013
Dylan Greiner Take Back Santa Cruz Patch

Dylan Greiner was propped up by Take Back Santa Cruz and the Santa Cruz Patch.
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#190 Sep 7, 2013
Original article.....

Former TBSC Hero Dylan Greiner Removed as SC Clean Team Admin After Arrest
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/08/29/...
DBS the PRC

San Jose, CA

#191 Sep 7, 2013
And what even funnier was ColbyLOON's pathetic comment: "I'm being wrongfully evicted" "Why won't anybody on Indybay help me"

Guess what?????

It got deleted!!!!!!!!!!
Reality Check

San Mateo, CA

#192 Sep 7, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
Vigilante behavior by Clean Team caught on video March 16, 2013
Ken Skindog Collins, was videotaped harassing a homeless guy with the Clean Team, poking him with a garbage stick, video here:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/05/15/1...
TRANSCRIPT OF THE CLEAN TEAM AT CARBONERA CREEK MARCH 16, 2013 VIDEO
Ken Collins: Are they stolen? They’re yours? You brought these? Is that all your garbage laying around in the river and all around you? You want some bags to help pick it up?
Man in Sleeping Bag: I’ve got a bunch of trash bags.
Ken Collins: Well, fuckin' put the trash in the bags, dipshit!
Man in Sleeping Bag: I do!
Ken Collins: No you don’t
Ken Collins: So right now we’re at one of these encampments, and you can see they're not living a really clean life style; they don't really care about the environment They're leaving junk everywhere. They're throwing garbage. They're throwing needles everywhere. They just ignore us. They don't care.
Hello, I’m talking to you.(pokes man in a red sleeping bag with a long 'trash clutcher'). I want to ask you some questions."
Man in Sleeping bag: Don’t touch me!(visibly disturbed) You got a lighter?
Ken Collins: No I don't have a lighter. I've got some garbage bags if you want to help...
Man in Sleeping Bag: Want me to come to your house and start picking through your shit?
Ken Collins: You probably do. You probably come and pick shit out of my fucin’ driveway and my bikes and my skateboards all the time.
Male Clean Team Member: You already took my wetsuit.
Man in Sleeping Bag: Well, you guys have a nice day.
Ken Collins: We are trying to. But this is not what we wanted to do on a Saturday. I want to ask you, what you what do think we could do....
Man in bag: You’re not getting any more answers out of me.
Female Clean Team Member 1: Please help us, dude.
Ken Collins: What happens if ah....Fuck, dude it can get pretty gnarly dude, I know some guys who want to fuck you guys up.(Clean Team members laughing and heckling in the background)
Ken Collins: Where you from? If you were from here, you'd have a little more respect for the environment, I assume. So you just steal every night, get your junk, and just leave garbage everywhere. Is that how you work? Do you have any respect for yourself? I mean seriously...
Female Clean Team Member 2: Where did you steal that Santa Cruz hat from? You wear that Santa Cruz hat with pride, and you do this in Santa Cruz?
Female Clean Team Member 1: Thanks for helping us out.
Ken Collins: You don't pick up your garbage. I mean look at this fucking mess.
Female Clean Team Member 3: This isn’t going to last much longer.
Female Clean Team Member 1: We’ll be coming back.
Female Clean Team Member 4: I’ll come back every day!
Female Clean Team Member 2: I’m sick of parasites destroying the beauty of this place.
Female Clean Team Member 1: We can’t even bring our kids down here.
Ken Collins: I say just we just get a bucket and throw water on him.
More at: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/05/15/1...
Santa Cruz Clean Team Scandal Video
http://youtu.be/NMTYSZocv4k

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