Maffei deserves huge apologies

Maffei deserves huge apologies

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Becky fan

Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Mar 21, 2013
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci...

The Sentinel, Analicia Cube and her fascist TBSC thugs, as well as District Attorney Bob Lee and Judge John Gallagher owe this man huge apologies. Suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

The jail enters all internee's belongings into a log. Why wasn't the DA and the public defender made aware of this receipt before the arraignment?

Law enforcement travesty!
Sum Dim

South San Francisco, CA

#2 Mar 21, 2013
Becky fan wrote:
http://www.santacruzsentinel.c om/localnews/ci_22843345/charg es-dismissed-against-man-accus ed-stealing-flowers-from
The Sentinel, Analicia Cube and her fascist TBSC thugs, as well as District Attorney Bob Lee and Judge John Gallagher owe this man huge apologies. Suspects are innocent until proven guilty.
The jail enters all internee's belongings into a log. Why wasn't the DA and the public defender made aware of this receipt before the arraignment?
Law enforcement travesty!
Becky is a jackass and Becky Fan is a jackass right next to her.

That said, this chap should not have been vilified like this, and certainly shouldn't have spent time in jail. "Oops, we messed up" doesn't cut it. Everyone should have held their fire until the details were clearer, and someone should have made that happen in less than 18 days.

That's right, TBSC. I'm looking at you. Settle down, now.

The Law and Order crowd has gotten a bit too shrill, and that's worrisome. This is the sort of outcome we can expect from this. You really think this Maffei is going to have stronger sympathies for law enforcement and the community at large after this?

BTW, this is apropos of nothing, but Robert Norse and Brent Addams are jackasses too. Like I said, it doesn't have any bearing on this, but I wouldn't be Sum Dim if I didn't remind the public of that.
Reality Check

Alameda, CA

#3 Mar 22, 2013
Hold up, Sum Dim.
He bought flowers from 'somewhere' and a $1 box? of donuts (how thoughtful), laid the donuts and the flowers at the memorial, where he hung out for 45 minutes. Then he picked up the flowers and caught a cab to 'a lady friend's motel', but was stopped on River at Portrero (where no motels exist) and the cabbie said he was going to HSC. He then said he was going to a memorial in Scotts Valley and he couldn't find his receipt (how many pockets does one man have?) or say where he bought them.

He may not be guilty (and even if he is, it's more than a bit tragic that the guy who caused this whole thing was out the next day after a B&E) it's a pretty dubious story, which mysteriously came together only after meeting with an attorney.
Rush to judgement, or plausible deniability?
Sum Dim

South San Francisco, CA

#4 Mar 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
Hold up, Sum Dim.
He bought flowers from 'somewhere' and a $1 box? of donuts (how thoughtful), laid the donuts and the flowers at the memorial, where he hung out for 45 minutes. Then he picked up the flowers and caught a cab to 'a lady friend's motel', but was stopped on River at Portrero (where no motels exist) and the cabbie said he was going to HSC. He then said he was going to a memorial in Scotts Valley and he couldn't find his receipt (how many pockets does one man have?) or say where he bought them.
He may not be guilty (and even if he is, it's more than a bit tragic that the guy who caused this whole thing was out the next day after a B&E) it's a pretty dubious story, which mysteriously came together only after meeting with an attorney.
Rush to judgement, or plausible deniability?
Plausible deniability. Maybe he did do it, But do what? Steal two or three donuts and some flowers from a street side memorial? Even if he was caught red handed doing it, it doesn't justify 18 days in jail, when people who receive actual sentences of 6 months for serious crimes like DUI's serve hours on their sentences before being released. The hoopla surrounding this guy is strictly a function of the hysteria surrounding the killing of these officers. This would have been a non-story if it was a roadside memorial to something else. Hell, I bet he wouldn't have spent 18 days in jail if he'd actually shoplifted the flowers from his local florist.

I just think everyone needs to simmer down. This was a gross overreaction to whatever this guy did, and the Sentinel should have known better to give this story legs.

The Original Buzz

“The buck stops here!”

Since: Sep 12

Scotts Valley

#5 Mar 22, 2013
Sum Dim wrote:
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Becky is a jackass and Becky Fan is a jackass right next to her........
Sum, would you be terribly surprised to find out that "Becky Fan" is another of John E Colby's posting names?

Your description fits.
Reality Check

Alameda, CA

#6 Mar 22, 2013
Actually, I'm in agreement with you, Sum Dim. It was all overblown. The 'vandalism' charge doesn't even make sense. At the most it was larceny for stealing the flowers. As I said above, Goulet was out the next day after a B&E. WTF? Our justice system gets more disappointing every day.
DBS

Santa Clara, CA

#7 Mar 22, 2013
Excuse me but,.... what about the fact that Maffei had a no-show warrant out from another State? That's what made him qualify(flight risk) for a higher Bail amount, which he did not post. THAT is what kept him locked up instead of OR release.
If he hadn't already had a record for being a scofflaw to the Court, the entire scenario would have played out in a different manner.
Sum Dim

South San Francisco, CA

#8 Mar 22, 2013
DBS wrote:
Excuse me but,.... what about the fact that Maffei had a no-show warrant out from another State? That's what made him qualify(flight risk) for a higher Bail amount, which he did not post. THAT is what kept him locked up instead of OR release.
If he hadn't already had a record for being a scofflaw to the Court, the entire scenario would have played out in a different manner.
Okay. That's a lot more detail than I was aware of. I still maintain that tarring and feathering him for this wasn't right, and even if he did do it, it wasn't anything that warrants the treatment he received. There's a sense of proportion missing here.

As to his other crimes, as far as I'm concerned, they can execute the man if that's appropriate. See if I care.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#9 Mar 26, 2013
DBS wrote:
Excuse me but,.... what about the fact that Maffei had a no-show warrant out from another State? That's what made him qualify(flight risk) for a higher Bail amount, which he did not post. THAT is what kept him locked up instead of OR release.
If he hadn't already had a record for being a scofflaw to the Court, the entire scenario would have played out in a different manner.
as a taxpayer, I'm not really sure this is the best uses of resources, keeping someone who allegedly stole some flowers in jail for 18 days. How much does it cost per day to maintain him?

I know some drunk guy who supposedly stole flowers makes a great and easy target of local wannabe crime fighters, but in my mind, the much larger issue facing Santa Cruz is the gang and Mexican mob problem.

Watsonville is already a mini-Salinas, and quite frankly SC is on it's way.
DBS

Santa Clara, CA

#10 Mar 26, 2013
zouzou wrote:
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as a taxpayer, I'm not really sure this is the best uses of resources, keeping someone who allegedly stole some flowers in jail for 18 days. How much does it cost per day to maintain him?
I know some drunk guy who supposedly stole flowers makes a great and easy target of local wannabe crime fighters, but in my mind, the much larger issue facing Santa Cruz is the gang and Mexican mob problem.
Watsonville is already a mini-Salinas, and quite frankly SC is on it's way.
You have a valid point about a not very good use of resources. But the fact remains, that the reason his Bail was higher than normal, was the result of his own previous actions. It's not as if he was held without Bail, he was given the opportunity to post it. For whatever reason, he was unwilling or unable to. I can only speculate that local Bondsman would be unwilling to post for anyone who already had a record of not showing up for Court.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#11 Mar 26, 2013
DBS wrote:
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You have a valid point about a not very good use of resources. But the fact remains, that the reason his Bail was higher than normal, was the result of his own previous actions. It's not as if he was held without Bail, he was given the opportunity to post it. For whatever reason, he was unwilling or unable to. I can only speculate that local Bondsman would be unwilling to post for anyone who already had a record of not showing up for Court.
I'm not denying his bail was higher and that he probably lacked the money to post a bond. But local budgets and court costs throughout the state are being slashed right and left, actual criminals being released in order to make room for new criminals.

how come it took 18 days to resolve that there was evidence disproving his big alleged crime of flower theft?

This is the sort of governmental waste that drives me crazy because there is so MUCH wasted money in our legal system.

(not to mention that the county had to pay for his public defender as well the assistant DA's time and court costs.)

stupid stupid stupid.
DBS

Santa Clara, CA

#12 Mar 26, 2013
zouzou wrote:
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I'm not denying his bail was higher and that he probably lacked the money to post a bond. But local budgets and court costs throughout the state are being slashed right and left, actual criminals being released in order to make room for new criminals.
how come it took 18 days to resolve that there was evidence disproving his big alleged crime of flower theft?
This is the sort of governmental waste that drives me crazy because there is so MUCH wasted money in our legal system.
(not to mention that the county had to pay for his public defender as well the assistant DA's time and court costs.)
stupid stupid stupid.
Agreed.

This entire incident was multi-faceted proof of the expression, "Ya can't fix stupid".
ANON

Freedom, CA

#13 Jul 1, 2013
this incident alone is reason for TBSC to be hounded until they either dis-band or pay Maffei a settlement of no less than 100k!
Disgusting fascist NIMBYs who dont care who they put in jail on their deluded members' supposed observance. They should check their eyes.
ANON

Freedom, CA

#14 Jul 1, 2013
WHY was the TBSC member NOT charged with making a FLASE police report?
Buzz

Pacifica, CA

#15 Jul 1, 2013
DBS wrote:
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Agreed.
This entire incident was multi-faceted proof of the expression, "Ya can't fix stupid".
Very true. If you could there some hope for John Colby!
quien sabe

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Jul 1, 2013
ANON wrote:
WHY was the TBSC member NOT charged with making a FLASE police report?
Well, not-so-anon, your disdain for TBSC and its members aside, I'd venture to guess that they were not charged for making a "FLASE" police report since they didn't know that the flowers removed from the scene had indeed been purchased by Maffei himself, much like all other parties did until the defense investigator found the receipt.

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