Sonora Farmer

Elizabethtown, KY

#1 Oct 15, 2009
I vote Atley Miller he seems to be a nice guy and a hard worker. He also has great vegetables in the summer time. I think John Miller is his older brother he has the saw mill down the road from the school. I am curious about the Amish shop that advertises custom wood flooring anybody ever purchased wood flooring from them?
Larue Co local

Columbia, KY

#2 Oct 16, 2009
Sonora Farmer wrote:
I vote Atley Miller he seems to be a nice guy and a hard worker. He also has great vegetables in the summer time. I think John Miller is his older brother he has the saw mill down the road from the school. I am curious about the Amish shop that advertises custom wood flooring anybody ever purchased wood flooring from them?
I'd vote them to move elsewhere. These local Amish are the nastiest people I've ever seen, worse than some third world slums I've seen. Southeast Asia villages are cleaner.
Dump manure all over the roads, cutting grooves in the pavement due to "having to have" steel wheels rather than rubber rims like Hart County Amish. Look at the "Dogpatch" out Highway 84 going towards Hodgenville. Isn't it lovely? Nice for the neighbors that try and maintain a decent looking home keeping up values. Amish don't understand paint or oil on anything. Look at their equipment. Worry any local welder or metalsmith to death repairing the same thing ten times for rust left out in the weather. Amish will screw over you if given the chance you have them do some work and everything is not spelled out in bold print, then some. Since you mention it, see if that flooring is kiln dried to any modern means of indication. Like you know they have electronic metering.Figure it cures out with gaps after you install it first winter? And closing, do you really want to eat anthing they have handled? Not me.
wow

Elizabethtown, KY

#3 Oct 16, 2009
Ummm..bad day? I never had any problems with the ones on 720
hot mama

Cecilia, KY

#4 Oct 16, 2009
im friends with them and they r really great people u people need to get a life and leave them alone they dont bother anyone.i think that ur jealous thats why u r dogging them cause they r better people then u
LC Local

Columbia, KY

#5 Oct 16, 2009
hot mama wrote:
im friends with them and they r really great people u people need to get a life and leave them alone they dont bother anyone.i think that ur jealous thats why u r dogging them cause they r better people then u
Did they teach you to spell? Jealousy of what? They have no regard for you " as English" and teach their kids you're of no use other than someone to trade with to their advantage, get something off your kindness towards them. It is a bother to all on the roads, that those Amish have no regard for you, or enough to put triangle reflectors on those black buggies so one would not have it on their conscience running in the back of a buggy at night, like many have.
Omish Lover

Radcliff, KY

#6 Oct 21, 2009
You know what LC Local... you are the most Un-American person I have ever heard speak. Why be so judgemental of people just because they choose a religion you don't agree with?? We as Americans have the right to choose how to live our lives... Unlike the English... the Omish dont murder people, dont steal or do drugs... They work hard for what they got.. All you have to bitch about is they tear up the roads... so fucking what?? If it wasnt the Omish it would be something.. Here's an idea move to a big city so you won't have to deal with the Omish. If you don't want to eat the products they make... DON'T... duhhh!
LC Local

Elizabethtown, KY

#7 Oct 21, 2009
Omish Lover wrote:
You know what LC Local... you are the most Un-American person I have ever heard speak. Why be so judgemental of people just because they choose a religion you don't agree with?? We as Americans have the right to choose how to live our lives... Unlike the English... the Omish dont murder people, dont steal or do drugs... They work hard for what they got.. All you have to bitch about is they tear up the roads... so fucking what?? If it wasnt the Omish it would be something.. Here's an idea move to a big city so you won't have to deal with the Omish. If you don't want to eat the products they make...
DON'T... duhhh!
Ohhh...so what I said doesn't bode well with your PC, eh. Too bad, it has nothing to do with Americanism or Amish religion. It is their diegenouis use of this "religiousness" that I find fault with.
They get out of laws by religious exemption the rest of us must abide with but still make use of our system to carry on their commerce to an advantage. Like what? How about when they get hired by bid to do construstion work but do not have to carry the insurances the people they bid against do. Advantage by religion.
As to your comment on Amish morals why don't you ask around how many young Amish women have fled rather than be "messed with" or say hire some of them out for some work to get a taste of their honest calculations and dealings. Get my drift?
These people have all the same human failings as the rest, but get some kind of pass, mythical treatment as being righteous types. I don't buy that, I'm telling it like I've experencied dealing with them.
Here is an idea for you, you move somewhere, if you don't like freedom of speech and opinion you don't agree with.
Omish Lover

Radcliff, KY

#8 Oct 21, 2009
Whether you choose to believe it or not... it had alot to do with Americanism... Actually it has everything to do with Americanism! You have the right to your opinion and I am not trying to shut you up or change your opinion.. I am simply stating that verbally abusing the Omish people, the Omish religion, or the Omish ways of life in general is racist and YES very Un-American. Maybe you thing we should hang all black people, or shoot all Arabians and Mexicans??? The discrimination of someone of group of people because of there religion or race is simply wrong! I am not by any means an Omish advocate... I know there are crooked Omish people, but in case you havent noticed there are very crooked English people also.. If you think they get such good treatment why not join there community?? I am sure it would be an upgrade from your life as it is.
CL Local

Elizabethtown, KY

#9 Oct 22, 2009
Omish Lover wrote:
Whether you choose to believe it or not... it had alot to do with Americanism... Actually it has everything to do with Americanism! You have the right to your opinion and I am not trying to shut you up or change your opinion.. I am simply stating that verbally abusing the Omish people, the Omish religion, or the Omish ways of life in general is racist and YES very Un-American. Maybe you thing we should hang all black people, or shoot all Arabians and Mexicans??? The discrimination of someone of group of people because of there religion or race is simply wrong! I am not by any means an Omish advocate... I know there are crooked Omish people, but in case you havent noticed there are very crooked English people also.. If you think they get such good treatment why not join there community?? I am sure it would be an upgrade from your life as it is.
To bring in the racial comments to support your argument is a logical flaw, it does not follow. There is no discriminating in my position, no discriminating that is but by Amish, since they do not care for, or patently reject, mingling with outsiders by their laws with English and buy selective breeding. BTW, have you seen any Black or Asian Amish? Now, use your argument on that one.

Verbal abuse to one may be truth to another, I have been defrauded by hiring Amish to build something for me, and I know of several others that have. The point is these people are no exception for special respect or consideration for their lifestyle. They put on a front of simple, ethical,and religious piety but are more of a mafia when it comes to money dealings. It seems they are mostly self serving and I would find the retrospective looking view of going back in human development as stupid. Funny thing is these people reject modernism but if hurt or very sick run to modern techs creations and means of healing. Hypocrisy. My suggestion is get involved in dealing with them for a while for some glimpses of what I'm telling you.
Omish Lover

Radcliff, KY

#10 Oct 22, 2009
The only reason I brung up Black and Mexican people ect. is to show you how stupid it is to judge, discriminate, and verbally abuse a group of people for no reason. Perhaps Local you should take a good look in your mirror. Comparing the Omish to the Mafia.... Really??? That is probably the most absurd comment I have EVER heard!!

Here is a concept for you, You say the Omish puts up a religious front... Look at ALL your local churches... You show me one person in that church who sets the standards of human kind, show me one who doesnt know sin. Why should the Omsih community be held to a standard that they can't make mistakes. All I am trying to say is... No the Omish arent perfect.. but who gave you the right to judge ones commitment or faith to there God? Maybe they could teach you a little something! Who cares if you consider there religion "stupid" It is not for you to judge.

You speak of the word Hypocrisy... I think the only hypocrat here is you.
CL Local

Elizabethtown, KY

#11 Oct 22, 2009
Omish Lover wrote:
The only reason I brung up Black and Mexican people ect. is to show you how stupid it is to judge, discriminate, and verbally abuse a group of people for no reason. Perhaps Local you should take a good look in your mirror. Comparing the Omish to the Mafia.... Really??? That is probably the most absurd comment I have EVER heard!!
Here is a concept for you, You say the Omish puts up a religious front... Look at ALL your local churches... You show me one person in that church who sets the standards of human kind, show me one who doesnt know sin. Why should the Omsih community be held to a standard that they can't make mistakes. All I am trying to say is... No the Omish arent perfect.. but who gave you the right to judge ones commitment or faith to there God? Maybe they could teach you a little something! Who cares if you consider there religion "stupid" It is not for you to judge.
You speak of the word Hypocrisy... I think the only hypocrat here is you.
Interesting, the more you post, the more you display your knowledge (or lack of) on the Amish. I gave you several reasons I do not like them, did you miss them all? Further, none of my thoughts discriminate against Amish, do you understand the term's meaning? There are no "No Amish" signs in my yard, I have the right to comment on them after being defrauded in work y them and the right to point that out to others. Personal choice is not discrimination per se.

No Mafia, absurd, eh? Well, not like the Sicilian type of the movies you're making a mental comparison to, more of a collective financial type for gaining more property, Logston Valley in Hart Country ( different sect-still Amish). Ask around about their dealings.I have heard the term "Amish Mafia" concerning them, from Hart County to Sonora restaurant discussions.Evidently you've not.

Amish get tax breaks, churches get property tax exemption but not the members. Once again now, Amish use this standing to an advantage over others engaged in the same commerce for their lower overhead prices. That is religious hypocrisy.
What is verbal abuse to you? Describing anyone in an unflattering way perhaps? Can you speak the Amish brand of German? If so, you'd hear some unflattering things from them, about non Amish. I laugh every time I hear the ads or comment for "Amish Made" things, if people only knew. LOL!

Jim Bob

Elizabethtown, KY

#12 Oct 22, 2009
Learn how to spell!!! it's AMISH not OMISH DUMBA$$
previous Omish

Elizabethtown, KY

#13 Nov 3, 2009
Jim bob check out the definition
http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/...
I think you might want to delete that comment before they run you out of Sonora :)
SonoraGal

Columbia, KY

#14 Nov 14, 2009
Ok first of all, it's not like arguing on here is going to accomplish ANYTHING. And the Amsih don't have the internet so this will never affect them.
And second of all, the amish are good and evil in a sense. They do DO DRUGS and GROW MARIJUANA I know for a fact! Esp. the ones in sonora. Wacky weed, ask them. And the don't have to pay taxes! That is ridiculous! And yes about the jobs, it IS NOT RIGHT FOR THEM TO STEAL OUR AMERICAN CONTRACT WORK. Esp. right now our economy is so bad. They take our mens work, DONT pay uncle sam, and yes the need to update with the time. I have heard of them 'doing things' to their daughters and young females.
yuck

Glasgow, KY

#15 Nov 22, 2009
I think if they use our roads and take our jobs they should have to pay our taxes. Its only fair. It's past time for them to move into the future and get over the past. And one more thing. They should be charged for animal cruelty for the way they run/treat their horses. If we even thought about doing an animal the way they do, we would be in prison for animal abuse.
yes yes yes

Horse Cave, KY

#16 Nov 22, 2009
yuck wrote:
I think if they use our roads and take our jobs they should have to pay our taxes. Its only fair. It's past time for them to move into the future and get over the past. And one more thing. They should be charged for animal cruelty for the way they run/treat their horses. If we even thought about doing an animal the way they do, we would be in prison for animal abuse.
I totally agree with you but the only way to get this done is to actually do something about it ya know like starting with the governor if you and everyone on here like me know that it is not right about these taxes and religious "rights" and for them not paying taxes like the rest of us to help out the poor people who are being taxed such as your local waitresses your local cashiers why tax those folks? I thought that in America everyone is created and shuld be treated equally? Just as an example I know someone who put in an application for the last two years in a row at the tobacco warehouse in Elizabethtown and for the last two years when they were going to be calling and hiring these new applicants everytime they called it was "well we have our workers from last year" then why the hell put out or offer applications? That is NOT an "Equal Opportunity Employer" that is just one example of wrong in our state. Just like the Amish and the insurance they should be required to keep if that is the case then why in this bad era of our lives should we be paying for their taxes? If they use OUR roads then YES they should pay taxes if they sell items like the ones I see at Sammys Market are doing then YES they should be taxed the same as the local restaurant owners and/or businesses. Some people want to take up for the Amish by saying it is a religious right then think about this that would be like because I am a Catholic I should not pay taxes on groceries or saying my Baptist neighbor should not pay taxes on gasoline because of her religion. Please let us not go there. That religious belief is the lamest excuse in the world if they have their own beliefs then why do they SO want to MOOCH off of us and yes I said MOOCH and if we are of "No Good" then why trade with us and why do WE fall for it I myself stay away from people that I think are no good, I mean I could walk around with a BIG wad of "Bennies" in my wallet too if I didnt have to pay taxes. Gosh I wish I were an Amish *** NOT!! Have a wonderful rest of the weekend.:)
yes yes yes

Horse Cave, KY

#17 Nov 22, 2009
oh and btw LC Local U Go Girl or U Go Man whichever you may be I agree with you one hundred and fifty percent the road is torn all to crap.not to mention the crap you have to get splashed up on the side or the underneath of your vehicle because u cant dodge it for the meeting an oncoming vehicle, to me they should be required to scoop the poop u dont see our cars whizzing or pooping out of the gas tanks onto their horses hooves or wagon wheels do u? I mean the last time I checked we are required or at least we are supposed to keep the catalytic converters on our vehicles for emmission purposes so why should our property(s) be polluted on huh??????????
Juan Costas

Glasgow, KY

#18 Dec 18, 2009
LC Local wrote:
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Ohhh...so what I said doesn't bode well with your PC, eh. Too bad, it has nothing to do with Americanism or Amish religion. It is their diegenouis use of this "religiousness" that I find fault with.
They get out of laws by religious exemption the rest of us must abide with but still make use of our system to carry on their commerce to an advantage. Like what? How about when they get hired by bid to do construstion work but do not have to carry the insurances the people they bid against do. Advantage by religion.
As to your comment on Amish morals why don't you ask around how many young Amish women have fled rather than be "messed with" or say hire some of them out for some work to get a taste of their honest calculations and dealings. Get my drift?
These people have all the same human failings as the rest, but get some kind of pass, mythical treatment as being righteous types. I don't buy that, I'm telling it like I've experencied dealing with them.
Here is an idea for you, you move somewhere, if you don't like freedom of speech and opinion you don't agree with.
Sounds like another disgruntled Republican to me.
I will pass this along

Leitchfield, KY

#19 Jan 3, 2010
I have printed out all comments and will be mailing them to the church elder for the Sonora and Cub Run sector to respond. I think we should try to understand them not spread falsehoods.

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