Dugan plea stirs up dark images of past

Dugan plea stirs up dark images of past

There are 33 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jul 28, 2009, titled Dugan plea stirs up dark images of past. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Before the rapist-murderer Brian Dugan became a symbol of death penalty politics, he was a stoner living in an Aurora rooming house for 50 bucks a week.

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K M in Oak Park

Chicago, IL

#21 Jul 29, 2009
Re-instate the death penalty. Let a few prison scum gang bangers rape Dugan first. Then I will gladly pull the lever on old sparky. May even hand him my Lean Cuisine lunch to warm up for me while the sparks fly.
NO MERCY FOR WOMEN/CHILD RAPISTS.
NO MERCY FOR MURDERERS.
If citizens cannot trust the state to determine and then FOLLOW THROUGH on death penalty cases effectively, then lift the moratorium and form a CITIZEN BASED COMMITTEE, composed of jurors, not a political forum of idiots to carry out the job.
Dugan not only raped and killed a child, but he left her family in limbo for over 26 years. Dugan claimed responsibility years ago, yet allowed 2 men to go to prison. No one involved will ever get their loved one back or any of this time back. This is tragically wrong on all levels.
Jack Burton

Muncie, IN

#22 Jul 29, 2009
Great writing Kass.
frank wsol

United States

#23 Jul 29, 2009
some will say that dugan is sick,
not me I Say lets not waste time on this low life,
the sooner the better death today.
Bagwhan

Algonquin, IL

#24 Jul 29, 2009
Dahmer was done in by prisoners, so was Father John Geoghan---both killed savagely brutal ways. Dahmer with a mop handle and barbell, The Good Molesting Priest beaten, stomped, tortured and strangled by a fellow Protective Custody Prisoner, whose cell and Geoghans were convientely left unlocked while the guards watched a baseball game on tv.

Dugan---I pray with Father Geoghan that your fate and former animal torturer Dahmers fate, is soon enough your own fate.

How does your family even show their faces anywhere?...they probably changed their name. They look the other way why you tortured animals? I'd just as soon give each of them a punch in the belly too. All of them.
wellnow

Louisville, KY

#25 Jul 29, 2009
This case has had a continuing impact on me. I think of the little girl and how her mother tried to take good care of her. She thought her child was safe in their home. Since this has happened, I always volunteer to take care of a sick child when the parents are at work. The parents will usually say, "Oh, you don't have to, they aren't very sick, they can take care of themselves for a few hours." Which is true enough if they are left alone by the low-life.
Iknowthatguy

Oak Brook, IL

#26 Jul 29, 2009
DAG, Birkett was obessed with Cruz. It was all over the paper during the Cruz trial and after.
DAG wrote:
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Jack --
I don't recall what role, if any, Birkett had in the prosecutions of Cruz and Hernandez. Regardless, the individual prosecutors don't have discretion as to which cases get prosecuted or not. The cases are given to them and they must try them vigorously. That's the system.
Police are driven to see cases solved. It reflects poorly on them when heinous crimes remain open (cf. Stebic and Peterson). Prosecutors' job description is not to see justice carried out but to rigorously advance the state's argument with the evidence at their disposal.
What does it say about us, as members of juries, that we would be so swayed to convict and condemn without physical evidence? Were they impassioned by the barbarity of the crime, assuming that, because the defendants were in the dock, they were presumed guilty? Why did the Grand Jury elect to allow the prosecution to go forward without physical evidence? That one's easy - b/c evidence thresholds are very low for Grand Juries. Do the Grand Jury rules need to change? Why were the defense attorneys so apparently inept and incompetent? Once convicted, Cruz and Hernandez won new trials and were STILL convicted and condemned. Why did the system fail Cruz and Hernandez so completely? It could be you or someone you know next time.
I'd favor the death penalty for capital crimes, but not under this system. On the one hand, there are tainted prosecutions. On the other, decades pass before execution, eliminating the deterrent benefit. Until the justice system can be corrected and the appeals process modified so executions occur within six months of conviction, capital punishment should remain sidelined.
Humanist

Stillwater, MN

#27 Jul 29, 2009
Munchygut wrote:
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Fact check your fact check. The article states "
A man in a beat-up blue 1974 AMC [American Motors Corp.] Gremlin had grabbed two little girls off the street in Somonauk as they were riding their bikes." The word Ford is not mentioned in the article.
The text you saw is NOT the original Kass version which was posted shortly before midnight last night. It definitely said Ford. I posted my comment a few minutes past midnight. Apparently Kass or an editor made the correction but didn't have the guts or integrity to acknowledge the mistake. Shows you how far the honesty quotient among Tribune staff members has fallen these days. So you go check whether your hind end is still attached. Otherwise you don't know cr*p.
Jason Lee

Brook, IN

#28 Jul 29, 2009
Humanist wrote:
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The text you saw is NOT the original Kass version which was posted shortly before midnight last night. It definitely said Ford. I posted my comment a few minutes past midnight. Apparently Kass or an editor made the correction but didn't have the guts or integrity to acknowledge the mistake.
You are correct sir. While the online version of the article has been corrected to say "1074 AMC Gremlin", my print version incorrectly said (and still says) "1974 Ford Gremlin".
eva

Edwardsburg, MI

#29 Jul 30, 2009
John, excellent column. It's heartbreaking to read how these crimes have destroyed families. I cannot imagine how they live with knowing the details of their loved one's murder. Peace be with them...and may justice in the case of Brian Dugan finally be done.
Humanist

Stillwater, MN

#30 Jul 30, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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You are correct sir. While the online version of the article has been corrected to say "1074 AMC Gremlin", my print version incorrectly said (and still says) "1974 Ford Gremlin".
Thanks - appreciate YOUR fact checking!
Sue Basko

Indianapolis, IN

#31 Aug 2, 2009
DAG wrote:
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Prosecutors' job description is not to see justice carried out but to rigorously advance the state's argument with the evidence at their disposal.
This is not true. Illinois lawyers follow a written code of ethics. It states that prosecutors are to seek truth and justice, not convictions. They have a legal imperative to make known exculpatory evidence (Brady rule) and not to prosecute falsely.
Sue

Indianapolis, IN

#32 Aug 2, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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You are correct sir. While the online version of the article has been corrected to say "1074 AMC Gremlin", my print version incorrectly said (and still says) "1974 Ford Gremlin".
Did you think someone was going to run over to your house with white-out and change what your paper said?
CZ75B

Villa Park, IL

#33 Aug 8, 2009
"Why did the system fail Cruz and Hernandez so completely? It could be you or someone you know next time."
Cruz was suspected because he was bragging at a bar about raping and murdering a 12 year old girl. That's the only reason his name showed up.
Cruz and Hernandez are both human garbage, maybe not on the same level as Dugan, but they weren't good people by any means.

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