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#1 Jan 26, 2013
Post your questions.

No charge (free).
hmm

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#2 Jan 26, 2013
Gods real so u should get saved

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#3 Jan 26, 2013
hmm wrote:
Gods real so u should get saved
Which god is real?

What should I be saved from?

Are you worried that the god is going to harm me?

Look at me, asking questions. This thread was supposed to be about asking ME questions.

Do you have any questions?
TOK

Brownsville, TN

#4 Jan 26, 2013
I too am an theist. I always like to get the thoughts and opinions other atheists, so I've got some questions for you.

What do you think of the question, "Can an all powerful god create a stone so heavy that he himself can't move it?"

Are you familiar with Richard Dawkins' levels of atheism? If so, where do you rate yourself?

If it turned out that there was a higher power, do you think it would be one known to mankind,(i.e. Yahweh, Zeus, etc.) or do you think that it would be one unknown to mankind?

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#5 Jan 26, 2013
TOK wrote:
I too am an theist. I always like to get the thoughts and opinions other atheists, so I've got some questions for you.
What do you think of the question, "Can an all powerful god create a stone so heavy that he himself can't move it?"
It demonstrates the absurdity of "omni" characteristics.
TOK wrote:
Are you familiar with Richard Dawkins' levels of atheism? If so, where do you rate yourself?
I don't believe in any gods. If I were going to list things as impossible, there would be a category with things most impossible, and most gods would be in that category. With a loose definition for "god", I allow that some might have existed, exist now, or will exist. I only make that allowance because I don't know what's "out there", and you can't know what isn't "out there". The best we can do is discount god claims based on standards we would apply to any other extraordinary claims.
TOK wrote:
If it turned out that there was a higher power, do you think it would be one known to mankind,(i.e. Yahweh, Zeus, etc.) or do you think that it would be one unknown to mankind?
It depends on what you mean by "higher power". The sun is a higher power. This is one of the problems we run into because of the influence of religion. People are bound to think these things are not only possible, but worth talking about. Fire breathing aliens are more likely than gods. Sentient planets are more likely than gods. Multiple universes with billions of life harboring planets are more likely than gods.

Thanks for your questions.
MMXIII

Somerset, KY

#6 Jan 26, 2013
Wir sind alle aus Stardust und im Wind weht.

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#7 Jan 26, 2013
I should replace "not only possible, but worth talking about." to "not only possible, but worth worshiping."
i believe

London, KY

#8 Jan 26, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
Post your questions.
No charge (free).
so how did it all begin?

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#9 Jan 26, 2013
Prove it
hmm wrote:
Gods real so u should get saved

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#10 Jan 26, 2013
i believe wrote:
so how did it all begin?
Shall I answer with the same amount of effort you put into the question?

Shit happens.
i believe

London, KY

#11 Jan 27, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Shall I answer with the same amount of effort you put into the question?
Shit happens.
thats your best answer?? i asked myself that same simple question!!! the bible gave me some kind of answer!! lets here yours??? dont go into the big bang THEORY because its called that for a reason!!

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#12 Jan 27, 2013
The Bible is silly mythology. Science is based on evidence. Please get an education.
i believe wrote:
<quoted text> thats your best answer?? i asked myself that same simple question!!! the bible gave me some kind of answer!! lets here yours??? dont go into the big bang THEORY because its called that for a reason!!
i believe

London, KY

#13 Jan 27, 2013
Anti-theist wrote:
The Bible is silly mythology. Science is based on evidence. Please get an education.
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evidence?? give me some??? just tell me how it all began??? big bang maybe??? what was it like before the big bang? was space there? or did the big bang create space to? but that couldnt be right either or could it? a big explosion creates life? why dont bombs create life when they go off?? somebody please explain?? i try to start a conversation and i get told that im uneducated?? come on!!!
i believe

London, KY

#14 Jan 27, 2013
so we know that the universe exist because were here. so it had to have a beginning obviously,because scientist havent found anything yet thats been around for eternity so it had to have a beginning but what is it?! the universe came from nothing? look around today does anything come from nothing? if so then what? did we all come from matter that wasnt alive? if we did then how? was the big ball of matter that blew up a living thing? that makes no sense! somebody help me!
TOK

Brownsville, TN

#15 Jan 27, 2013
i believe wrote:
<quoted text> thats your best answer?? i asked myself that same simple question!!! the bible gave me some kind of answer!! lets here yours??? dont go into the big bang THEORY because its called that for a reason!!
I see this EVERY time somebody talks about the big bang. That word, theory, does not mean what you think it means. A scientific theory is an explanation of facts.

It is not the same thing as, "I have a theory, that if you jump into a frozen lake, you will be cold."

But here, I'll put some more effort into it for you. Please, take the time to read all of this. It explains the big bang theory rather well.

The universe is likely infinite. The presently most popular shape of the Universe found to fit observational data according to cosmologists is the infinite flat model.

If something is infinite, then it must have always been infinite. You can not have something finite, and make it infinite without adding something that is infinite to it, and if we are talking about the universe then there's nothing else to add, so the universe is infinite and has always been infinite.

If we look at all the stars in other galaxies no matter how far away they are and measure how they are moving we see that the galaxies are all moving away from us, and they are going faster and faster.

That doesn't mean that we are in the middle, because they are all moving away from each other as well. If you were standing on any other planet you would still see that every other galaxy is moving away from you.

Which means that yesterday every galaxy was closer to us than today. And a year ago they were even closer. And if you go back long enough (which we now know is around 13,72 billion years), they will be so close to us that we are practically in the same spot. This is called a singularity and time stops running here, similar to what happens inside black holes. But as we know, I am explaining it in reverse; so in reality time actually started here.

Remember, the universe is still infinite because it has always been infinite. At the moment of the big bang the universe was still infinite.

I'm going to add something to this that may be hard to grasp for someone who's not used to thinking about the universe in grand scales. When you look at something, you don't see it instantly. You only see it after the light from it has had the time to reach your eyes.

So when you are speaking to your mother, you don't see her instantly - because it takes time for light to reach your eyes. But light is ridiculously fast. It is the absolutely fastest thing that can travel through space. So you won't really notice it here on earth when talking to your mother or catching a ball that's moving that light has a speed, everything here just seems instant.

But when you look at the moon, you are not looking at the moon as it is right now but as it was 1,3 seconds ago. And if you feel the warmth of the sun on your body, that energy has been travelling through space from the sun to you for about 8 minutes! That also means that if you look at the sun, you are watching what happened 8 minutes ago. No matter what you do, you can't change what happens on the sun in 4 minutes if you start now to plan something. Because you can't travel faster than this speed of light.

Now think about the universe that is infinite. Do you think you can see the whole universe? No you can't, because it takes time for light to reach you. If something is billion billion billion billion billion billion billion light years away then it will take billion billion billion billion billion billion light years to get here, and the universe just isn't old enough for light to have reached all that way.
TOK

Brownsville, TN

#16 Jan 27, 2013
So if you look around you into space, there is a limit to how far you can see, until you can't see further. We call this the "observable universe", which is simply how far we can yet see. Our observable universe is like a huge bubble around us, and it contains everything that we can see.

But all that was once closer together, at the big bang. It was so close together that it was just condensed in a tiny little dot. Our whole observable universe was once just a dot. And around that dot there was even more stuff. We don't know what it was, but we assume that it was just like the stuff that our 'dot' has.

So there you have it. An infinite universe that was infinitely dense and time was stopped. Then for some reason expansion started, it happened incredibly fast, so fast that space expanded faster than the speed of light and now there are parts of the universe we actually just can't see.

Then the expansion slowed down, but later it picked up speed and is now going faster and faster. Eventually, physicists think, other galaxies will be moving away from us faster than the speed of light - which means we won't be able to see them any more.

That also means that any future alien civilizations will not be able to see other galaxies move away from each other, and they are just going to have a completely wrong picture of the universe because they don't know how it all started. The only reason we do is because we can observe galaxies moving away from us faster and faster. And this is the only time in the history of the universe that we are able to do that. So we are pretty lucky to be living in the time where we can know this for sure, because this information will be lost forever to everyone else who will be isolated in their galaxy in billions of years.

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#18 Jan 27, 2013
"big bang maybe???" Yep

"what was it like before the big bang? was space there? or did the big bang create space to?" We don't know. Hopefully one day we will.

See how easy that is? When you don't know the answer to a hard question, admit your ignorance, hope for an answer in the future and resist the urge to make up silly fairy tales to comfort yourself.
i believe wrote:
<quoted text> evidence?? give me some??? just tell me how it all began??? big bang maybe??? what was it like before the big bang? was space there? or did the big bang create space to? but that couldnt be right either or could it? a big explosion creates life? why dont bombs create life when they go off?? somebody please explain?? i try to start a conversation and i get told that im uneducated?? come on!!!

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#19 Jan 27, 2013
"so we know that the universe exist because were here. so it had to have a beginning obviously" Not necessarily. The universe could be part of an endless cycle...big bang, big crunch, big bang, or perhaps our universe is just one small bubble on an endless sheet of bubblewrap. Maybe there are bang bangs elsewhere. The possibilities are exciting.

"look around today does anything come from nothing?" New findings in Physics suggest that particles can and do come from nothing. The world of the extremely small is very strange indeed.
i believe wrote:
so we know that the universe exist because were here. so it had to have a beginning obviously,because scientist havent found anything yet thats been around for eternity so it had to have a beginning but what is it?! the universe came from nothing? look around today does anything come from nothing? if so then what? did we all come from matter that wasnt alive? if we did then how? was the big ball of matter that blew up a living thing? that makes no sense! somebody help me!

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#20 Jan 27, 2013
i believe wrote:
thats your best answer?? i asked myself that same simple question!!! the bible gave me some kind of answer!! lets here yours??? dont go into the big bang THEORY because its called that for a reason!!
The Biblical answer was Holy Shit Happens.

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#21 Jan 27, 2013
i believe wrote:
so we know that the universe exist because were here. so it had to have a beginning obviously,because scientist havent found anything yet thats been around for eternity so it had to have a beginning but what is it?! the universe came from nothing? look around today does anything come from nothing? if so then what? did we all come from matter that wasnt alive? if we did then how? was the big ball of matter that blew up a living thing? that makes no sense! somebody help me!
You can't apply inductive reasoning to the universe, unless you've observed other universes. There didn't have to be a beginning. We don't know that. We've never seen another universe begin, so inductive reasoning does not apply.

If you'd like to know how life began on this planet, I would too. Scientists are working on possible explanations. I think they'll eventually come up with several answers of how life could have started, and perhaps name one of those answers as the most likely of those we have as the way life actually started here.

If you need to turn scientific theories into fantastical fictions in order to comfortably reject them, perhaps you aren't interested in learning. Somehow, several anonymous ancient ignorant Middle Easterners knew it all and wrote it on scrolls. It's not internally consistent, and there's no evidence to support what they say, but I'm sure you won't let that stop you from believing it.

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