Mayor vs Norrie Wake
Adman

East Bernstadt, KY

#143 May 15, 2013
Well after reading today's CJ paper the mayor states he doesn't want wine being sold on every corner in the city.

Yet he threatens ABC with too few licenses issued?

Maybe Norrie Wake wasn't paying special fees the mayor wanted?

Something really smells about this entire d.eal
yep

London, KY

#144 May 15, 2013
Sounds like the criminal wake won the battle but bully eddie is gonna win the war.
Adman

East Bernstadt, KY

#145 May 15, 2013
You have the title criminal on the wrong name. Girdler has the city in so much debt they will never recover without the state taking over city finance's.

Wait and see history repeat itself with Girdler when he was deputy judge with the county.

Level 8

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#146 May 15, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
Weren't no battle - Wouldn't have ever hit print if a complimentary bottle had changed hands -Gotta play the patronage game if you exist in this political world -
Word -
history please

Indianapolis, IN

#148 May 15, 2013
Adman wrote:
Wait and see history repeat itself with Girdler when he was deputy judge with the county.
I have heard references of Eddie Girdler being deputy judge and leaving under "negative circumstances". I did not live here then, when was it and what was the story?
ToCanSam

Stanford, KY

#149 May 15, 2013
Adman wrote:
You have the title criminal on the wrong name. Girdler has the city in so much debt they will never recover without the state taking over city finance's.
Wait and see history repeat itself with Girdler when he was deputy judge with the county.
He says the city has millions stashed away.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Level 7

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#150 May 15, 2013
So now local area wineries are at a disadvantage compared to every other winery in the state?

It's legal to sell locally-made wine in Kentucky Proud markets statewide...except in Somerset.

Bad, horrible move by the city. Shame on them.
manfromthewest

Somerset, KY

#151 May 15, 2013
he wanted more abc lic's because the first five were given to drug stores and small outlets when a investment of millions was turned down...the mayor just wanted lic's for bigger investors in somersets economy.. read the papers
Unwashed Masses

Franklin, IN

#152 May 15, 2013
Bronston Man wrote:
So now local area wineries are at a disadvantage compared to every other winery in the state?

It's legal to sell locally-made wine in Kentucky Proud markets statewide...except in Somerset.

Bad, horrible move by the city. Shame on them.
Now Bronston, the local wineries are from Pulaski County and Wayne County (not sure which is worse in the eyes of of our City Government leaders). Because the wineries are "county folk" they are unclean, uneducated, and are most certainly unwanted in the wisdom of City Government and their efforts to do business in the fair City must be destroyed by regulation and extra fees!
(Heck, they may even be members of the local Chamber of Commerce and therefore radically subversive.)

We must protect our City from the untouchables from the County who might sell a dozen bottles of local wine on Saturday morning at a farmers' market. Not sure how, but these farmers' markets could bring down the great and powerful city.

What a joke. As State Senator Chris Girdler said to Fiscal Court about the City Government's refusal to merely listen to the merge government study proposal, "it would be humorous, if it were not so tragic." Supposedly our federal government is facing a possible crises on the scandals of the IRS targeting conservative groups and the Department of Justice over broad use of warrants to get AP reporter's phone records; but when our local City Government targets wineries for no good reason or those who otherwise disagree with them, we collectively yawn and do not question the unsupported claim that the City must protect itself from those lessor people from the outside.

When do we start building a block wall around the fair City and its residents to protect it from the unwashed masses from the county?
somerset

Pineville, KY

#153 May 16, 2013
Let them sell but they need to pay just like everyone else
gonzo

London, KY

#154 May 16, 2013
Unwashed Masses wrote:
<quoted text>
Now Bronston, the local wineries are from Pulaski County and Wayne County (not sure which is worse in the eyes of of our City Government leaders). Because the wineries are "county folk" they are unclean, uneducated, and are most certainly unwanted in the wisdom of City Government and their efforts to do business in the fair City must be destroyed by regulation and extra fees!
(Heck, they may even be members of the local Chamber of Commerce and therefore radically subversive.)
We must protect our City from the untouchables from the County who might sell a dozen bottles of local wine on Saturday morning at a farmers' market. Not sure how, but these farmers' markets could bring down the great and powerful city.
What a joke. As State Senator Chris Girdler said to Fiscal Court about the City Government's refusal to merely listen to the merge government study proposal, "it would be humorous, if it were not so tragic." Supposedly our federal government is facing a possible crises on the scandals of the IRS targeting conservative groups and the Department of Justice over broad use of warrants to get AP reporter's phone records; but when our local City Government targets wineries for no good reason or those who otherwise disagree with them, we collectively yawn and do not question the unsupported claim that the City must protect itself from those lessor people from the outside.
When do we start building a block wall around the fair City and its residents to protect it from the unwashed masses from the county?
Senator Girdler pen or have this diatribe written for you? A bunch of poppycock!
ToCanSam

Stanford, KY

#155 May 16, 2013
Whatever law or reg he dreams up the Council will back him on it, whether it's right or wrong, the Council does very little homework on any of the things that arise in the meetings, so he knows he can do whatever he wants and get their blessing without even asking, he isn't to blame in all these things that go on, the Council is as guilty as he is because they let him by with whatever he does and never calls his hand on it, but alot of our leaders are letting the power go to their heads and think they are GOD, most of City Hall acts the same way, it's either their way or they will make law to turn it in their favor, Council needs to grow a set or get out and let someone have the seat that at least knows whats going on and how to handle it.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Level 7

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#156 May 16, 2013
Unwashed Masses wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure how, but these farmers' markets could bring down the great and powerful city.
What a joke. As State Senator Chris Girdler said to Fiscal Court about the City Government's refusal to merely listen to the merge government study proposal, "it would be humorous, if it were not so tragic." Supposedly our federal government is facing a possible crises on the scandals of the IRS targeting conservative groups and the Department of Justice over broad use of warrants to get AP reporter's phone records; but when our local City Government targets wineries for no good reason or those who otherwise disagree with them, we collectively yawn and do not question the unsupported claim that the City must protect itself from those lessor people from the outside.
When do we start building a block wall around the fair City and its residents to protect it from the unwashed masses from the county?
Yeah, it started out okay, but you just jumped the shark here.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Level 7

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#157 May 16, 2013
gonzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Senator Girdler pen or have this diatribe written for you? A bunch of poppycock!
I wouldn't doubt it, as he used the oldest trick in the last 7 years.

He somehow compared the city government to the Obama administration. Shows a politician's deft hand for sure!

=D
Paul Revere

London, KY

#158 May 16, 2013
Those trashing the city/Mayor for opposition to selling locally produced wine, have you seen any local products for sale in any of the new package stores? I was in what is probably the biggest and nicest we have and asked for some locally made product and was told they don't carry any.
Unwashed Masses

Franklin, IN

#159 May 16, 2013
Bronston Man wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't doubt it, as he used the oldest trick in the last 7 years.

He somehow compared the city government to the Obama administration. Shows a politician's deft hand for sure!

=D
I wish I were more "deft" and a better politician. I would run for office and try to change things.

It bothers me when folks in government bully people who disagree with them by using their police, regulatory, and tax power. Whether its the IRS, the Department of Justice, or City Government.

I believe Somerset's refusal to let Norrie Wake sell wine at a farmers market under the "festival" exception, as most cities do, has less to do with protecting the City and more to do with Wake's Facebook post opposing the Mayor. I think four police cars showing up at Brice Ping's job site has less to do with building code enforcement, than sending a message of intimidation.

I can't understand why everyone is rushing to defend the Mayor and City Counsel (and not calling them out) on these actions, when such actions are so opposite what this country stands for? Wether or not you are popular (deft or a good politician), is more important around here than being fair and proper as a government official.

I guess I will be next to receive the wrath of City Hall, when will it be you?
gonzo

London, KY

#160 May 16, 2013
Paul Revere wrote:
Those trashing the city/Mayor for opposition to selling locally produced wine, have you seen any local products for sale in any of the new package stores? I was in what is probably the biggest and nicest we have and asked for some locally made product and was told they don't carry any.
Lacking quality for the price they have to sell it at... this has more to do with trashing the mayor/Somerset than selling local products. If the wine is any good at a competitive price people would be knocking down the doors at the wineries. They would not have to worry about transporting and carrying bottles to the street markets.
whatcha

London, KY

#161 May 16, 2013
A whole lot of things in this town has been about trashing the city and the mayor since the unified government movement started.
iagree

Pineville, KY

#162 May 16, 2013
ToCanSam wrote:
Whatever law or reg he dreams up the Council will back him on it, whether it's right or wrong, the Council does very little homework on any of the things that arise in the meetings, so he knows he can do whatever he wants and get their blessing without even asking, he isn't to blame in all these things that go on, the Council is as guilty as he is because they let him by with whatever he does and never calls his hand on it, but alot of our leaders are letting the power go to their heads and think they are GOD, most of City Hall acts the same way, it's either their way or they will make law to turn it in their favor, Council needs to grow a set or get out and let someone have the seat that at least knows whats going on and how to handle it.
Tim Rutherford was last councilman that tried to make mayor explain his actions. Then they redistrict so he couldn't run against Tom Eastham, and he sure isn't going to question him on anything he does

“smiling on a cloudy day”

Level 7

Since: Jan 09

Shakedown Street

#163 May 16, 2013
The only ones getting screwed here are the voters. City government wants limited alcohol sales; county government wants none whatsoever.

It is the people who voted to have the same rights and responsibilities as every other city in the Commonwealth. Why can't the politicians get out of the way and let them?

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