Old Timer

Beattyville, KY

#41 Jan 23, 2013
bobbi wrote:
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natural gas. and it wont cost the citizens anything. research it and you will see how it happens.
It was already pointed upthread that it's a loan from the Fed
Hmmm

Duluth, GA

#42 Jan 23, 2013
get over it wrote:
<quoted text>you and the rest of these crying backwoods people need to hop a bus and travel to a bigger city and see what they have. Just because Somerset is small does not mean with have to think SMALL, growth comes with development, did Lexington need 2 humongous courthouses downtown? come on, there just convicting people of crimes or letting them go 5 days a week, and most are criminals, they need all the fancy diggs for that? I think if Jesus Christ showed up for dinner un-announced, you all would b*tch and complain!
I actually don't have to "hop" a bus and travel to the big city of Lexington. I own property there. We cannot compare apples and oranges as you are suggesting. I'm not against growth, however as a buisness person myself I do know that the bills do eventually come due. Unfortunately lexington has laid off and consolidated numerous facilities in an effort to cut cost to their city. Perhaps you should go there and discuss the financial mess they are in with their mayor. He's a nice man with the "realistic" thought process of "don't spend more than you can afford". Somerset could definitely model themselves after Lexington in that aspect.
Watcher

Somerset, KY

#43 Jan 23, 2013
No dog in this Fight
rationality

London, KY

#44 Jan 23, 2013
Old Timer wrote:
<quoted text>It's interesting that you quoted me and then asked me the questions that I was asking. You merely have conjecture that the current buildings are unsafe. That is not proof. Most municipal buildings across the country did have asbestos removed in the 80's. Did Somerset ignore the fed then? Did they get an exemption? I don't know. Consolidation for the sake of consolidation is not a recipe for efficiency. If they are in the same building they will still use phones to call the office upstairs. It would be no different if they were 10 miles away. I am simply asking if there is any actual reason besides, "We like it, We wanna. We got a nice fat loan that says we can"?
Terrorism happens. Watch the news. Decentralization is a simple defense. Water mains break now and again. In a centralized system they whole system is down for a couple days whereas if decentralized, only one building of govt is down. Centralization for the sake of centralization is not an answer.
I like how you replied in a manner that fails to make any case for NOT building a new Energy Center/City Hall. What about the points I raised regarding cost savings on continued maintenance of aged building scattered around town? What about my questions about firecode compliance and handicapped access? What about a need to address an emergency situation where communicating with each agency would be greatly simplified by being able to meet almost immediately with representatives under the same roof?
How are you getting that addressing any of these points is "consolidation for the sake of consolidation"?
And your fear of some sort of attack on a non-Federal building in Somerset seems to be paranoia-based rather than a rational concern. Using your line of thinking, no one would ever have boarded an airliner following 9/11.
For whatever reason, you seem to be hell-bent on manufacturing reasons to not replace outdated infrastructure with more modern facilities.
Old Timer

Beattyville, KY

#45 Jan 23, 2013
rationality wrote:
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I like how you replied in a manner that fails to make any case for NOT building a new Energy Center/City Hall. What about the points I raised regarding cost savings on continued maintenance of aged building scattered around town? What about my questions about firecode compliance and handicapped access? What about a need to address an emergency situation where communicating with each agency would be greatly simplified by being able to meet almost immediately with representatives under the same roof?
How are you getting that addressing any of these points is "consolidation for the sake of consolidation"?
And your fear of some sort of attack on a non-Federal building in Somerset seems to be paranoia-based rather than a rational concern. Using your line of thinking, no one would ever have boarded an airliner following 9/11.
For whatever reason, you seem to be hell-bent on manufacturing reasons to not replace outdated infrastructure with more modern facilities.
you made no points, merely assertions and actually I am disabled and had no trouble getting to the third floor to renew my license. As to your emergency situation, your argument was that such an occurrence was an impossibility.

No my argument had to do with water main breaks and terrorism was simply a side item that was illogical to ignore as a possibility.

Grow a brain. You have no logic to support your views, simply a desire for it to come to pass. You are obviously a contractor on the take
Taxpayers unite

Sheridan, AR

#46 Jan 23, 2013
History is repeating itself again. Eddie Girdler was at one time the deputy judge of Pulaski County in the early 1970's. After his handling of the county finances it was the first and only time the state had to come in and take over all finances of Pulaski County government.

He is using taxpayers money as there is no end. Girdler gave many of the dept. heads in city government a major raise his first year in office to BUY their silence (especially the city clerks office). Unfortunately we, as taxpayers, will have to cover his major spending mistakes.
get over it

Bulan, KY

#47 Jan 23, 2013
gomer-ez wrote:
Comparing Somerset to Lexington is a real stretch.
Ok smart a**, what about the new judicial center here in somerset?
Nosnow

London, KY

#48 Jan 23, 2013
google Hal Rogers Pork and see where the money has gone. And believe me these post are most likely being reported to him. CNN did a report on one of the most crookedest Rep Hal..Hal refused Andersons interview...because he is GUILTY

Since: Jan 13

United States

#49 Jan 23, 2013
Doesn't matter Somerset is only 24 point something square miles only 11,000 population it has room to grow just in a good way. I don't know if a center like that will help damn this place is small.

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Since: Mar 12

Hopkinsville, KY

#50 Jan 23, 2013
I have no idea why people complain about progress like this. It makes no sense to me at all. The building is being paid entirely with natural gas money. If you care enough to voice your opinion, you should also care enough to read about it. City Hall looks pitiful and Somerset deserves something better.

You are always going to want a few people looking for handouts and I feel like this is what is going on here. They want the city to give them the natural gas money rather than to use it constructively.
gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#51 Jan 24, 2013
get over it wrote:
<quoted text>Ok smart a**, what about the new judicial center here in somerset?
What about it? waste of tax payers monies.Pretty buildings is not progress.
How long have there been telephones in Somerset?How long has the central office been in the same place.From switch board to DSL.It has been in the same place,but there has been progress.Maybe the city should hire the phone companies architect.
gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#52 Jan 24, 2013
dionysio wrote:
I have no idea why people complain about progress like this. It makes no sense to me at all. The building is being paid entirely with natural gas money. If you care enough to voice your opinion, you should also care enough to read about it. City Hall looks pitiful and Somerset deserves something better.
You are always going to want a few people looking for handouts and I feel like this is what is going on here. They want the city to give them the natural gas money rather than to use it constructively.
There are no free rides.
gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#53 Jan 24, 2013
Nosnow wrote:
google Hal Rogers Pork and see where the money has gone. And believe me these post are most likely being reported to him. CNN did a report on one of the most crookedest Rep Hal..Hal refused Andersons interview...because he is GUILTY
So,what is your point?Show me one honest politican.
My2Cents

United States

#54 Jan 24, 2013
comare wrote:
Althouth "westwood" called me a "CAP" he now conterdicts him/herself to prove my very point. The little town should act like just that and put these "found" funds were they are so very badly needed. I am all for progress, but when you live in one of the poorest states in the nation, put your money where it truly does belong. Back door politics is alive, well and thriving.
I don't know the statistics on Ky being the poorest state in the country. However I've noticed that plenty of Kentuckians are satisfied with the way they live. Where would you say the new found funds need to be placed?
gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#55 Jan 24, 2013
There are 800.000 people in Kentucky living in poverty,mostly due to lack of an education(high school)I think Mississippi is the only state below us on being the poorest state.
For some reason the parents in Kentucky do not consider education a necessity.I should have said,some of the parents.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
And for some reason a large number of people want the jobs to come to them.There are not that many good jobs in Somerset,so just like our forefarthers,we have to go where the jobs are.
If you are in the desert you go to the water,the water is not going to come to you.

gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#56 Jan 24, 2013
If you get the chance watch the program on KET,The price of proverty in Kentucky.I know it is not Opera.
Knowledge

Somerset, KY

#57 Jan 24, 2013
I see our town growing in leaps and bounds within the next 10 years and I see nothing wrong with building beautiful buildings to compliment this progress. I also see nothing wrong with trying to restore and beautify a lot of our historical buildings and the fountain. No our town can not be compared to the city of Lexington right now but a few years down the road it just very well may be.Some people would complain about anything and everything and it looks as if there are several on this thread.
gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#58 Jan 24, 2013
It looks to me there are a lot of deep pockets,who like pretty things at tax payers expense.
Grady

Manchester, KY

#59 Jan 24, 2013
dionysio wrote:
I have no idea why people complain about progress like this. It makes no sense to me at all. The building is being paid entirely with natural gas money. If you care enough to voice your opinion, you should also care enough to read about it. City Hall looks pitiful and Somerset deserves something better.
You are always going to want a few people looking for handouts and I feel like this is what is going on here. They want the city to give them the natural gas money rather than to use it constructively.
Exactly and if things go the way they look to be heading, Somerset will double it's sales of natural gas in town with one new customer when East KY Power goes from coal to gas. I really don't think people understand how profitable Somerset's gas company is and will be if this happens.
Grady

Manchester, KY

#60 Jan 24, 2013
gomer-ez wrote:
There are 800.000 people in Kentucky living in poverty,mostly due to lack of an education(high school)I think Mississippi is the only state below us on being the poorest state.
For some reason the parents in Kentucky do not consider education a necessity.I should have said,some of the parents.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Close - 755,899 and we are now ahead of Puerto Rico, Mississippi, West Virginia and Arkansas. Whoo hoo progress!

Based on recent numbers stating that people living at the poverty line or below are 17.3% and the current population is 4,369,356.

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