20 year retirement has to stop

20 year retirement has to stop

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Amos

Somerset, KY

#1 Dec 30, 2012
This is really an eye-opener article:

http://somerset-kentucky.com/local/x964859984...

It's about time something is done about all these jobs that are paid for by taxpayers and their retirement plans. Put them in a plan like a 401 and if they have enough money to retire in 20 years then let them go. These retirement plans need to stop being funded solely by taxpayers.
20yrs

Greenbrier, AR

#2 Dec 30, 2012
Only hazardous duty employees get 20 yr retirement. Not ALL state workers.They have to work 27. All would be good if they had not raided the retirement funds to fund pet projects. The elected officials even saw fit to create their own retirement system which they (of course) fully fund. They only provide 24% funding for the state workers retirement account.

But we keep voting these self serving folks back in office time and time again.

I am glad they elected Chris Gridler he will be a voice for the people !! Not self serving.
Amos

Somerset, KY

#3 Dec 31, 2012
20yrs wrote:
Only hazardous duty employees get 20 yr retirement. Not ALL state workers.They have to work 27. All would be good if they had not raided the retirement funds to fund pet projects. The elected officials even saw fit to create their own retirement system which they (of course) fully fund. They only provide 24% funding for the state workers retirement account.
But we keep voting these self serving folks back in office time and time again.
I am glad they elected Chris Gridler he will be a voice for the people !! Not self serving.
Didn't read the article, did you?
why

United States

#5 Dec 31, 2012
I read it and 20 years is right. Hazardous duty employees such as KSP have 20 year retirement the rest have 27. I have no problem with state workers getting the retirement they worked for. Heck at least they work, unlike the lazy welfare trash who are on the government teat for 50 or 60 years.
Amos

Somerset, KY

#6 Dec 31, 2012
why wrote:
I read it and 20 years is right. Hazardous duty employees such as KSP have 20 year retirement the rest have 27. I have no problem with state workers getting the retirement they worked for. Heck at least they work, unlike the lazy welfare trash who are on the government teat for 50 or 60 years.
You might have read it but you didn't understand it.
informed

London, KY

#7 Dec 31, 2012
They have stopped 20 yr retirements passed a law in 2008 25 for hazardous and age and years of service have to equal 87 for non hazardous that means if you get a state job right now you have to have worked 30 years and be at least 57 years old before you can retire with full retirement. People need to know that what the problem is the law makers robbed money from retirement funds and now have to pay it back. KY is a welfare state and don't have enough people working to pay for this.
Amos

Somerset, KY

#9 Jan 1, 2013
informed wrote:
--- People need to know that what the problem is the law makers robbed money from retirement funds and now have to pay it back. KY is a welfare state and don't have enough people working to pay for this.
One sentence in the article explains perfectly what the problem is and it has to do with how long retirees live after retirement.
Yeah

Nashville, TN

#10 Jan 1, 2013
Amos wrote:
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One sentence in the article explains perfectly what the problem is and it has to do with how long retirees live after retirement.
Yeah...long life is a REAL problem.
why

United States

#11 Jan 1, 2013
Considering I used to work for state government I believe I have a much firmer grasp on it than you do. And I am sorry these workers live so long, would you prefer they die after 10 years? What you don't understand is that state workers pay into this system, and they pay taxes just like you do. Probably more than most of you, since many people aren't paying anything in taxes. You try working in state government for 27 years, listening to people who need to get off their rears and get a job whining because they didn't get their food stamp paperwork turned in on time and their benefits discontinue and tell me if you're not ready to retire!
why

United States

#12 Jan 1, 2013
I also get sick of people complaining about people working for the state thinking they have the right because they are "taxpayers". So are the the state workers. And you had better be glad workers are there. Roads you drive on in winter? There are state workers out there working in middle of the night to clear them. State workers keeping the criminals in jail, and risking their life to put them there. There are state workers investigating abuse of grandma in nursing homes, and working to get outbreaks identified and under control. There are workers in the state crime lab processing forensic evidence. I could go in and on. And almost all of these workers without exception would make more money in the private sector. So be glad these workers are doing what they do
Amen

London, KY

#13 Jan 1, 2013
Amen Why Amen

You forgot about having to give money to the political machine to keep you job. When you are hire by the state they start hitting you up for election money.

Booming Thunder
Level 5

Since: Oct 12

Western * U*S*A*

#16 Jan 1, 2013
Just because someone has worked the required amount of time to retire doesnt mean they cant ever work again.How silly!I worked for 24 years and retired and work a part time job now and come and go as I please.Life doesnt stop with retirement,it begins again.
Unions

London, KY

#17 Jan 1, 2013
The state workers are not union. The real problem is the law makers in Frankfort. The even have their own retirement system so they can under fund the state system and not hurt theirs.

They are a differnt social class. They need your vote to get elected but then it is all about them.

They should take their retirement system and join it with the state workers system to help shore it up.

Then change their retirement factor to match the reqular state workers. Things would get better real fast.

Cool Hand Clem

“One day at a time”

Level 6

Since: Oct 12

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#18 Jan 1, 2013
I agree.
Rally

London, KY

#19 Jan 1, 2013
The is a state retiree rally planed for Jan 8 ( I think ) at the capital in Frankfort. Check the date to make sure but all current state workers and retirees should go.
Casinos

London, KY

#20 Jan 1, 2013
I think this is another effort by the Gov. to push gaming in KY. He is really good at scare tactics.

Watch how it plays out.
why

United States

#21 Jan 1, 2013
I'm more concerned with the people who have never worked a day, or a few months at most, who work right in front of everyone and get full disability! That is where the bulk of taxpayer money is wasted. Can't keep it up forever. Either since more people are on the draw in this state than are employed.
Yeah

Ripon, WI

#22 Jan 1, 2013
why wrote:
I'm more concerned with the people who have never worked a day, or a few months at most, who work right in front of everyone and get full disability! That is where the bulk of taxpayer money is wasted. Can't keep it up forever. Either since more people are on the draw in this state than are employed.
People automatically discredit themselves when their complaint is with people that are earning their money. You shouldn't even have the right to vote if you do not or did not work.
If a guy wants to work for the state and agrees to the terms then the state should honor it. Any politician that even sugests taking money from a retirement fund should be kicked out of office immediately for conspiring robbery.
If they make the deal and put in their time, then they darn sure should collect their benefits. If you wanted the deal, you should have worked for the state.
I work for myself. No retirement fund for me so I'll work til I die. But, it was my choice.
why

United States

#28 Jan 1, 2013
Your disability and food stamps is MY tax money! And BTW what I have or don't have is my business since I work to pay for it. And state employees pay into the retirement system so it is THEIR money. They work for it and deserve it. Wow somebody sure is jealous. To me the only thing eye opening about that article is the fact that the politicians have been robbing retirement for years to pay for their pet pork and entitlement programs and now the chickens are coming home to roost. BTW people like you are exactly the reason it is horrible to be a state worker, whining about how lazy state workers are taking your taxpayer money while glorifying people who manage to deceive the government enough to get their free money. And so what if some retired person has tractors! Good for him, hope he enjoys it. After dealing with idiots like you for 20+ years I'm sure he deserves it.
Amos

Somerset, KY

#30 Jan 1, 2013
why wrote:
--And state employees pay into the retirement system so it is THEIR money.---
Wrong, it's our money.

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