_____ Republicans Versus Women _____

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#285 Jun 13, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
You get a clueless icon. Read both the threads on Republican attacks on women. It's very real and being done. The 'new' Republican party isn't near the same as the old one.
Abortion is violence against women. D&C, dilation and curettage, forcing open the cervix and scooping or slicing off part of the endometrial lining is the worst attack. Then there's the death of the unborn child...

There is no Republican attack on women; that's defamation created by our mutual political opponent. Amazing how well irrational ad hom arguments work with the low information voters. But over time, they learn.

You'll learn too, when it happens to you.

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#286 Jun 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Abortion is violence against women. D&C, dilation and curettage, forcing open the cervix and scooping or slicing off part of the endometrial lining is the worst attack. Then there's the death of the unborn child...
There is no Republican attack on women; that's defamation created by our mutual political opponent. Amazing how well irrational ad hom arguments work with the low information voters. But over time, they learn.
You'll learn too, when it happens to you.
Ummmmmm ..... those are real bills, blocks, and repeals listed in the two threads (and that's only a few of them). They cover far more than only abortion. And they are only those from the last two and a half years.

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#287 Jun 13, 2013
Jeeeeeez ..... it's happened again! For the third time in less than a year. It's the fourth time if you count a Republican leader saying pregnancy from rape is God's will.

Here is a quote from two days ago stated during a Committee meeting in Washington .....

"incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low."

This was said by Republican Representative Trent Franks. Later he attempted to get out of it and backtrack ..... which is a very common practice for Republicans after publicly stating screwball things about women ..... by saying he was really saying incidents of women reporting rape after six months is rare. But that's not what he said. His statement was this .....

"Before, when my friends on the left side of the aisle here tried to make rape and incest the subject, because you know, the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low, but when you make that exception, there's usually a requirement to report the rape within 48 hours."

Remember this famous Republican statement from 2012, the one where they said we cannot become pregnant from rape?

ďIf itís a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.Ē

Three times, folks, that this has been said by the 'new' Republican Party in one year.

As a side note concerning "If itís a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down". I've been curious ever since they made the statement that women cannot become pregnant from rape ..... what the heck is 'legitimate rape'?

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#288 Jun 13, 2013
The above post and statement from the Republican Party is from this week.

I'll go back one week to another. During a Committee hearing (a different one the week before the one in my above post) Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss said hormones are partly responsible for sexual assaults and rape in the military.

Hormones are responsible for a man not knowing rape is a violent crime and shouldn't be committed on women?

Are hormones also an excuse for molesting or raping a child walking home from school or raping a woman walking to a car in a parking lot? I don't see the difference in raping a woman on the street, a child which got off a school bus, and the rape of a female soldier. Are hormones now the new Republican excuse for condoning sex assault?

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#289 Jun 13, 2013
Let's see ..... we covered Republican statements from this week and two weeks ago.

So now let's go to three weeks ago. Erick Erickson on a business panel on FOX's Lou Dobbs Tonight stated itís anti-science to not believe men should dominate Women. His statement was concerning women having careers and being breadwinners in a home. He said in the natural world the role of men is to dominant women and the place of women is a complementary role.

I wonder what's coming next week?

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#290 Jun 13, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Let's see ..... we covered Republican statements from this week and two weeks ago.
So now let's go to three weeks ago. Erick Erickson on a business panel on FOX's Lou Dobbs Tonight stated itís anti-science to not believe men should dominate Women. His statement was concerning women having careers and being breadwinners in a home. He said in the natural world the role of men is to dominant women and the place of women is a complementary role.
I wonder what's coming next week?
He said in the natural world the role of men is to 'dominate' women and the place of women is a complementary role.

My bad. I messed up a word.

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#291 Jun 14, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Ummmmmm ..... those are real bills, blocks, and repeals listed in the two threads (and that's only a few of them). They cover far more than only abortion. And they are only those from the last two and a half years.
They are left wing assaults on femininity under the guise of a war on women. Pushing women into combat units creates death and injury, that's been proven during every combat qualification course the military run.

Forcing taxpayers or third parties to pay for abortion is like putting women in combat units, plus every abortion results in the death of the unborn.

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#292 Jun 14, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Jeeeeeez ..... it's happened again! For the third time in less than a year. It's the fourth time if you count a Republican leader saying pregnancy from rape is God's will.
Here is a quote from two days ago stated during a Committee meeting in Washington .....
"incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low."
This was said by Republican Representative Trent Franks. Later he attempted to get out of it and backtrack ...
That's not true? "[I]ncidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low." Then would it be true to write: "incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very high"?

Why not give a reference? Why such a tiny quote? What's it got to do with "God's will"?

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___Jenny___ wrote:
.. which is a very common practice for Republicans after publicly stating screwball things about women ..... by saying he was really saying incidents of women reporting rape after six months is rare.
Rape is a crime of violence and assault, it's often reported immediately. Sometimes medical care is required first. If that medical care takes more than six months, before the victim can testify about the rape, that's rare but not disallowed. What's the point?

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___Jenny___ wrote:
But that's not what he said. His statement was this ..... "Before, when my friends on the left side of the aisle here tried to make rape and incest the subject, because you know, the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low, but when you make that exception, there's usually a requirement to report the rape within 48 hours."
The Republicans support exceptions for rape and incest, the Democrats don't, but want one law for all. This is a point of political separation. Let's not get all emotional, let's deal with facts.

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___Jenny___ wrote:
Remember this famous Republican statement from 2012, the one where they said we cannot become pregnant from rape?
ďIf itís a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.Ē
Jen will never remind you he was voted out of office for saying exactly that. No elected Republican espouses Jenny's defamation, Akin isn't a Republican Congressman after saying that.

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___Jenny___ wrote:
Three times, folks, that this has been said by the 'new' Republican Party in one year.
Three's the charm, easy for the low information voter to remember.

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___Jenny___ wrote:
As a side note concerning "If itís a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down". I've been curious ever since they made the statement that women cannot become pregnant from rape ..... what the heck is 'legitimate rape'?
Only Jenny would ask, all reasonable conservatives just vote the fool out.

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#293 Jun 14, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
He said in the natural world the role of men is to 'dominate' women and the place of women is a complementary role.
My bad. I messed up a word.
When you try to vilify other people, you often make yourself look bad. That's just the nature of the business.

Don't worry, practice makes perfect.

BTW, don't hormones contribute to human behavior? Nobody is calling them a criminal defense, but isn't it a good idea, to understand human nature?

Just saying...

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#294 Jun 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>When you try to vilify other people, you often make yourself look bad. That's just the nature of the business.
Don't worry, practice makes perfect.
BTW, don't hormones contribute to human behavior? Nobody is calling them a criminal defense, but isn't it a good idea, to understand human nature?
Just saying...
Again this is something that the Republican party can't help but to pass bills in the House that they know have zero chance of passing the Senate and then there is the fact if it even did you can almost bet that the President would veto it. The Republican party keeps going with the war on women and I just think that its a little strange if they ever hope to win the Whitehouse again. This is a losing issue for the party you know it I know it and anyone who is over the age of 30 knows this to be a fact. The Republican party can't win when it comes to social issues its a fact its not a stong suit for the party. I don't think that you are going to find anyone whom is pro abortion really you are going to find that the majority of the population are pro women. Its a fact you know as well as I that if this were a conversation about the productive rights of men that the turn around for approval with abortions would be at 100 percent overnight. The fact is this is a losing matter for the Republican party as women are much more likely to vote than their male counter parts. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this in the Roe Vs Wade decision and its the law of the land but the Republican party fails to grasp this for some reason its not going to be overturned they should move on to something like oh maybe JOBS don't you think?

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#295 Jun 14, 2013
LovehasNogender wrote:
... The Republican party keeps going with the war on women and I just think that its a little strange if they ever hope to win the Whitehouse again...
I think that's nonsense; there is no Republican war on women. More than half the Republicans are women; what a crazy idea.

I think you know longer need a credible claim, if you can use it against political opponents. That way, you can focus on emotions instead of reason and reality.
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#296 Jun 15, 2013
Having read all this stupid non sense spouted about the republican party having a so called war on women only 2 things come to mind, First there sure Is alot of brainwashed kool aid drinkers and the second one Is a bible verse

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the FOOL to the LEFT.

And boy does It.

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#299 Jun 16, 2013
spike wrote:
Having read all this stupid non sense spouted about the republican party having a so called war on women only 2 things come to mind, First there sure Is alot of brainwashed kool aid drinkers and the second one Is a bible verse
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the RIGHT, but the heart of the FOOL to the LEFT.
And boy does It.
Your joking right? If I had to take a guess your one of the people on the far right whom is all for the government telling a woman what they may do with their bodies that is what I gather from this post.
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#300 Jun 16, 2013
LovehasNogender wrote:
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Your joking right? If I had to take a guess your one of the people on the far right whom is all for the government telling a woman what they may do with their bodies that is what I gather from this post.
No Im not joking you just keep drinking that kool aid Cause you sure can't gather much from a post thats pretty obvious. So just keep inclining to the left like the jack ass party does and showing us how dumb you all really are.

And since I have to spell It out to you what a woman does with her body Is her choice. But the party of BIGGGGG Government would like really low information voters such as yourself to think Its all those pesky republicans. But then I guess some just can't really see past the end of there nose.

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#301 Jun 16, 2013
spike wrote:
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No Im not joking you just keep drinking that kool aid Cause you sure can't gather much from a post thats pretty obvious. So just keep inclining to the left like the jack ass party does and showing us how dumb you all really are.
And since I have to spell It out to you what a woman does with her body Is her choice. But the party of BIGGGGG Government would like really low information voters such as yourself to think Its all those pesky republicans. But then I guess some just can't really see past the end of there nose.
Right. I just would like to know one quote that you can go back on to the left and tell me any whom have said things like the Republican party that are making the choice might I add that there is not one female on that committee! I think that you may feel that its okay for a group of old white males making the choices for what a woman can or can't do with their bodies. I hate to tell you but your person is not something that belongs to the government. I think that you are going to find that the majority of the population are not pro abortion however you are going to find that they are very pro woman. I mean it sank to Senate seats for the Republican party this last election cycle on top of that the Republican party has not won a Presidential election the last 6 times they were held. Its also a party that is moving far away from the direction that the country as a whole is moving. I think that you know as well as I do that social issues are always a non started for the Republican party. If you disagree well then your not living in the real world. I don't identify with either party that way I can make a choice I am not someone who sits in front of a TV to let others make up my mind for me. If the party fails to change in key areas well then it will be the party that cease to be.

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#303 Jun 17, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I think that's nonsense; there is no Republican war on women. More than half the Republicans are women; what a crazy idea.
I think you know longer need a credible claim, if you can use it against political opponents. That way, you can focus on emotions instead of reason and reality.
I think that you maybe really confused as there is not one single woman on the committee that keeps trying to advance abortion bills in the house. It sounds to me that you may need to do a little research before you comment with something like that above. The Republican party fails to grasp the fact that this is going to get the party nowhere. I think that you know as well as the majority of the population that social issues are not a strong suit for the party. If they continue to move in the direction that the majority of the population is going its going to be a party that cease to be. I think that the leaders in the party have yet to get a grip on that. I mean come on now they have lost 6 of the last Presidential elections.

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#305 Jun 18, 2013
LovehasNogender wrote:
I think that you maybe really confused as there is not one single woman on the committee that keeps trying to advance abortion bills in the house.
Which committee? What abortion bills? Vague much?

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LovehasNogender wrote:
It sounds to me that you may need to do a little research before you comment with something like that above.
No thanks, I like specifics. Half of Republicans are women, there is no party war on women.

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LovehasNogender wrote:
The Republican party fails to grasp the fact that this is going to get the party nowhere.
You might believe that, unless you go to the meetings. We are a diverse group, we invite all conservatives to work together.

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LovehasNogender wrote:
I think that you know as well as the majority of the population that social issues are not a strong suit for the party.
We're on the right side of the social, economic and defense issues; that's our strong suit. We're stopping higher taxes, wasteful government spending, intrusive regulations, stifling free speech with political correctness and refusing to submit a reasonable budget.

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LovehasNogender wrote:
If they continue to move in the direction that the majority of the population is going its going to be a party that cease to be.
You've already got the Democratic Party; not like I'm going to take L.h.N.g.'s political schemes.

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LovehasNogender wrote:
I think that the leaders in the party have yet to get a grip on that.
We lead from the bottom, they'll catch on. They're stopping Obama's new tax and spend plans every day.

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LovehasNogender wrote:
I mean come on now they have lost 6 of the last Presidential elections.
You didn't think Bush was conservative enough either?
Tough Love

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#306 Jun 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>We're on the right side of the social, economic and defense issues; that's our strong suit. We're stopping higher taxes, wasteful government spending, intrusive regulations, stifling free speech with political correctness and refusing to submit a reasonable budget.
The Republican party hasnít been on the right side of much of anything in recent years and last November 65,899,660 voters agreed when they chose to elect an unpopular president over the GOP alternative. Your comments here are the perfect example of why the party couldnít take the White House despite the fact that their only agenda item for 4 years was to do precisely that. You talk about being against intrusive regulations, yet you are a champion government controlling what people do in the privacy of their own homes, advocate telling them who they can or cannot love/marry and demand that private medical decisions be subjected to government oversight. The GOP hasnít stopped higher taxes, they just want to shift the burden to the middle class and according to the Congressional Budget Office and every other independent fact checking organization out there, the budgets proposed by Rep. Ryan/theGOP in recent years would have actually raised the deficit and the national debt. For me however, the most egregious thing that the GOP has done in recent years, and is continuing to do, is to attempt to suppress the free speech of the American people through unapologetic gerrymandering and by restrict their access to the ballot. While yesterdayís Supreme Court 7-2 decision knocking down Arizonaís attempt to restrict voting rights was a step in the right direction, it should be noted that Justice Thomas stated in his minority opinion that the Constitution does not guarantee citizens the right to vote and that states have the inherent right to determine who is is eligible to vote and who is not. Now thatís some truly scary right wing thinking!

Thankfully, many Republicans are starting to the see the light and are actually speaking out against the extremist mentality that has been the face the party in recent years. You ask any republican what they are against and they will give you a laundry list 6 pages long. Ask them what they are for and youíre lucky if you get 1 or 2 things at the most. The GOP used to be the party of ideas, and it was a party I was proud to support. However, if they want to take back the presidency, and win my vote, they are going to have to start talking about how to deal with the issues of todayís and tomorrowís world, not how to return the country to the early 1900s or create a quasi religious theocracy.

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#308 Jun 18, 2013
If you think the USA can become a 'quasi religious theocracy', you don't understand our laws and customs. Look at Iran if that's what you fear. And they're trying to get nuclear bombs and delivery systems.

Conservatives stand for a strong defense, stop them there so we don't have stop them here.
Tough Love

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#309 Jun 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
If you think the USA can become a 'quasi religious theocracy', you don't understand our laws and customs. Look at Iran if that's what you fear. And they're trying to get nuclear bombs and delivery systems.
Conservatives stand for a strong defense, stop them there so we don't have stop them here.
Iran is an ultra conservative government with a constitution based on Islamic principles. Our evangelical right, also ultra conservative, has repeatedly stated that the US is a Christian nation that should be run according to Christian doctrine and principles. Both are theocratic models. The only difference is the religion. Ignoring the fact that the framers of our Constitution wisely included an establishment clause that would prevent this, a growing number of Christians daily push the envelope as they try to circumvent both the nature and spirit of the law and in some conservative circles, there is even talk of trying to repeal the establishment clause.

On defense, well there's a huge difference between having a strong military and wasteful defense spending. Each year defense contractors make billions from equipment our military leaders have repeatedly said they don't need and won't use. Until conservatives denounce and help to eliminate the practice of padding the defense budget for their contractor cronies, they have no credibility on either subject -- spending or defense.

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