mr spock

Russell Springs, KY

#44 Jan 17, 2013
dionysio wrote:
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This is my thinking as well. I really think the number Somerset got was lower than it should have been. They are supposed to take into account the size of the city relative to the area it serves. That came from the ABC. We got fewer licenses than Danville and by October, Somerset was selling more in the categories that were approved than Danville.(Danville averages 530K in package malt sales per month in Winter and Somerset sold 741K in October and 874K in November). November sales were quite a bit higher than Danville and by the summer, it will probably be double that amount. It's hard to believe that 5 small liquor licenses are going to work for such demand. My only hope is that one of them gets bought out or at least they put enough of their revenue into expanding. I have no idea why Liquor Barn didn't jump all over this market. That was a big mistake on their part. I do think they would have gotten approval.
Is this sales data available someplace on line?? I would like to watch this data in the future.

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#45 Jan 17, 2013
At what point in time will anyone know the ammount of revenue coming to the city from the brew sales ?- Tryin' to get a fix on if this extra is actually gonna be beneficial -

“It is what it is, folks!!”

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#46 Jan 17, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
Just an opinion , I thunk maybe somebody tried to influence somebody in charge , in Frankfort , and it didn't work - Shake up at the top , so the new guys had to avoid any and all appearances of improprieties - Sad that some peoples greed and egos have to mess up a good thing - It'll calm down after a while , meanwhile , the future customers are being denied their long fought for right to purchase , locally , their choices of liquor -
You know, KIA? I thought about that. I wondered if somebody was trying to influence someone and pull some shady deals. Some of these people "in charge" around here are used to being able to do things that way. Maybe this time it didn't work out quite like they wanted it to and it put a speed bump in the road.... It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

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Since: Mar 12

Harrogate, TN

#47 Jan 17, 2013
mr spock wrote:
<quoted text> Is this sales data available someplace on line?? I would like to watch this data in the future.
Yeah, it's posted online. There is a 45 day lag so it's only up to November. By November, most gas stations had their package malt licenses so that's the first full month of data on that side. There were $2.1 million in total sales by the end of November.

http://www.cityofsomerset.com/services/ytd_al...
keenanv

Hazard, KY

#48 Jan 17, 2013
_-_Nope_-_ wrote:
I hope it doesn't even take that long, BM.
I am a bit disappointed from what I'm reading here though, that I'll only have the option of shopping for a quality bottle of wine at a drug store.
(Where I doubt we'll find any quality wine selections in stock).
What is this "Wildcats" place?
Oh well... Hwy 27 still leads north and south, just like it did a year ago..
I know Zane Burton, Sinking Valley Winery (off hwy 461) is looking for a location to sell his wine here in Somerset.

“It is what it is, folks!!”

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#49 Jan 17, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
At what point in time will anyone know the ammount of revenue coming to the city from the brew sales ?- Tryin' to get a fix on if this extra is actually gonna be beneficial -
Somebody just today put a link up here and the stats too, but dang if I can find it right now of course.

It stated how much revenue had come in just from beer sales for what I think where the months of October and November. Then it mentioned a couple of other cities that were wet. Somerset beat them all in sales. So why we only got the number we DID is a mystery, according to whoever put it on here.

I'll keep trying to find that post and put a link up.

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#50 Jan 17, 2013
Duh, you got it I guess. Carry on, LOL!
mr spock

Russell Springs, KY

#52 Jan 17, 2013
dionysio wrote:
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Yeah, it's posted online. There is a 45 day lag so it's only up to November. By November, most gas stations had their package malt licenses so that's the first full month of data on that side. There were $2.1 million in total sales by the end of November.
http://www.cityofsomerset.com/services/ytd_al...
Thanks. Is the Danville available---I found blank reporting forms on their site---but no numbers.

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#51 Jan 17, 2013
keenanv wrote:
<quoted text>I know Zane Burton, Sinking Valley Winery (off hwy 461) is looking for a location to sell his wine here in Somerset.
If he finds a place, let me know! I'm not much for drinking these days, but a good quality glass of wine would be nice to have without having to drive so far away to get a bottle when the urge hits..
Thanks Keenanv.
mr spock

Russell Springs, KY

#53 Jan 17, 2013
mr spock wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks. Is the Danville available---I found blank reporting forms on their site---but no numbers.
Found it ---user error---thanks for the help.

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Since: Mar 12

Harrogate, TN

#54 Jan 17, 2013
mr spock wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks. Is the Danville available---I found blank reporting forms on their site---but no numbers.
The Danville sales are reported quarterly though so you need to divide the numbers by 3. The only area we can compare is package malt sales since so few restaurants/bars were selling here until recently and the new ones have not been built yet.

www.danvilleky.org/DocumentCenter/Home/View/1...

You can also compare it with Corbin which had been reported in the paper. I think last July they had $900K in sales but summer sales are much higher than winter, as you can see from the reporting. By that point, Somerset should be at least double that since we are selling that much in the Fall, before it was even being sold widely and it will go off the charts when the tourists start dropping in.
Wet Voter

United States

#55 Jan 17, 2013
_-_Nope_-_ wrote:
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Thank you, "Wet Voter"!! I wasn't aware of that! I appreciate your politeness, and the educated answer.
Hope this place opens pretty soon. It would be great to have a nice glass of quality Merlot when I want one. Running out is a minor inconvenience, not an emergency situation. A local outlet will certainly be handy.
You're welcome!
tubby

Manchester, KY

#56 Jan 17, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
Bein' a brew appreciator from before you'ns was bornded , I used to like a beer walk , instead of a beer run - And most of us ain't inbred , we was conceived out in the yard - That makes us outbreeds -
BWAHAHA!!!! You warm the cocklrs of my heart, sweetie!!!!!!
Old

Racine, OH

#57 Jan 18, 2013
keenanv wrote:
<quoted text>I know Zane Burton, Sinking Valley Winery (off hwy 461) is looking for a location to sell his wine here in Somerset.
He won't be able to compete with real vintners. He uses the wrong yeasts, the wrong sugars and doesn't age the wine properly. When people have access to properly made wine, they'll stop buying his. He needs to improve his technique and quickly since we will soon have alternatives if he wants to stay in business.
crazy

Pineville, KY

#58 Jan 18, 2013
I heard that one of these 5 have already sold their license to someone else
WoW

Brownsville, TN

#59 Jan 18, 2013
dionysio wrote:
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Yeah, it's posted online. There is a 45 day lag so it's only up to November. By November, most gas stations had their package malt licenses so that's the first full month of data on that side. There were $2.1 million in total sales by the end of November.
http://www.cityofsomerset.com/services/ytd_al...
WOW, those numbers look impressive for what short time we have been selling beer.....what do you think?
interesting

London, KY

#60 Jan 18, 2013
Duh wrote:
A liquor store in the Somerset Mall?
Well, that's one license wasted.
I bet they are taking up the old Dawahare's space. That is pretty big.

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#61 Jan 18, 2013
interesting wrote:
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I bet they are taking up the old Dawahare's space. That is pretty big.
Paper stated "across from the PD sub station - Right now , that's Samuels Jewelers - The former sub station was on the N end , next to the county clerks office , in front of the mall maintenance room - I bet that's where it's going in - Dawahares former spot would be way too expensive for a start up business -
Smh

United States

#62 Jan 19, 2013
Westwood wrote:
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Of course they are. They're all located on South 27. Maybe the idea is to get them closer to McCreary County.
yeah, cause they definetly need more additives that way smh

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#63 Jan 19, 2013
crazy wrote:
I heard that one of these 5 have already sold their license to someone else
Don't thunk they can do that - If they decide to surrender their license , or it's revoked , the state ABC will award it to another qualified applicant , providing conditions and terms are met - The state retains ownership of licenses , only allowing selected retailers to operate under them -

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