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Yeah

Lexington, KY

#166 Mar 10, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
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Thought you might like an alternative to all of the bias copied and pasted from the Huffington Post on here. Enough was enough .....just wanted to prove you can find other sources and that Democrats ARE corrupt, regardless of what some might have you believe. Anyone who can't see that both parties are screwing us daily are either blind, or in on it too....
One of the most telling things to me is how both dem and repub supporters will applaud the actions of our government overseas. Drone strikes on innocent people in order to assassinate one person. The bombings in Iraq where they picked up body parts in the street in dump trucks. These are our fellow human beings. People that had nothing to do with harming the U.S.

Yet the left will over look the drone murders because dems support gay marriage.

The right will over look the mass murder of innocents over seas because the repubs tell them they are pro-life. Really? Pro-life? You still believe that after seeing the little body parts being picked up in the streets of Baghdad?

You lefties talk about human rights, dignity and gay marriage then support and even brag about Obama's drone strike on a wedding party.

No wonder we're hated around the world. News shows in other countries show the truck loads of little body parts being picked up in the streets, then cut away to Americans cheering for Obama and Bush that ordered these inhumane attacks.

My point is the same as always, lay aside your emotionally charged, self centered issues long enough to clean up D.C., then pick them back up when we have real statesmen in office.
zipyourlip

Greenbrier, AR

#167 Mar 10, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
One of the most telling things to me is how both dem and repub supporters will applaud the actions of our government overseas. Drone strikes on innocent people in order to assassinate one person. The bombings in Iraq where they picked up body parts in the street in dump trucks. These are our fellow human beings. People that had nothing to do with harming the U.S.
Yet the left will over look the drone murders because dems support gay marriage.
The right will over look the mass murder of innocents over seas because the repubs tell them they are pro-life. Really? Pro-life? You still believe that after seeing the little body parts being picked up in the streets of Baghdad?
You lefties talk about human rights, dignity and gay marriage then support and even brag about Obama's drone strike on a wedding party.
No wonder we're hated around the world. News shows in other countries show the truck loads of little body parts being picked up in the streets, then cut away to Americans cheering for Obama and Bush that ordered these inhumane attacks.
My point is the same as always, lay aside your emotionally charged, self centered issues long enough to clean up D.C., then pick them back up when we have real statesmen in office.
I'll give your assertion some credence, however we are hated in the middle East, more so with our non wavering support of Israel. Free Palestine, and most of our problems disappear. Electing people that would not wield enough power in Washington to do the nation's business seems foolhardy, we have far to many problems to fix, and no time for on the job training. Your biggest problem is there aren't enough people who think the same way that you do, and I hope everyday that Rand Paul runs as a Libertarian, thus insuring that Hillary Clinton will become our next President.
Yeah

United States

#168 Mar 10, 2013
Hillary's done.
I don't think Paul will be the guy, but a repub will win the next time. Probably Jindal or a similar type.
That's the game they've been playing for years. Toss the presidency back and forth to make us think we have a choice.
zipyourlip

Greenbrier, AR

#169 Mar 10, 2013
Yeah wrote:
Hillary's done.
I don't think Paul will be the guy, but a repub will win the next time. Probably Jindal or a similar type.
That's the game they've been playing for years. Toss the presidency back and forth to make us think we have a choice.
We will agree to disagree on this. Our nation's direction, and policy is not a game. Bush screwed things up so badly, that I doubt a Republican is elected for another generation. I will continue working to insure that happens as little as possible, because our children's future can't survive anymore of the spend, and put the deficits on the Chinese credit card that the Conservatives gave us at the onset of the new millennium. Americans know we can't afford another spending binge, and the unfunded liabilities that came from Bush's first term. I haven't forgotten that we were running balanced budgets at the end of Clinton's time in office, and President Obama inherited the deficit spending that we have now.
Yeah

Nashville, TN

#170 Mar 10, 2013
zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>We will agree to disagree on this. Our nation's direction, and policy is not a game. Bush screwed things up so badly, that I doubt a Republican is elected for another generation. I will continue working to insure that happens as little as possible, because our children's future can't survive anymore of the spend, and put the deficits on the Chinese credit card that the Conservatives gave us at the onset of the new millennium. Americans know we can't afford another spending binge, and the unfunded liabilities that came from Bush's first term. I haven't forgotten that we were running balanced budgets at the end of Clinton's time in office, and President Obama inherited the deficit spending that we have now.
It may not be a game to you or me, but our corrupt political class plans one distraction after the other. One month we have the "fiscal cliff" battle. The next month it's the battle of the "sequester". The real discussion goes on behind close doors and we get theatrics. Obama's admin. renews Haliburton's contracts, expands civil rights violations like the Patriot Act, continues the brutality over seas and plunges the nation further in debt.
I believe in the U.S. system of government, I just have no confidence in our current political class. I don't understand how anyone could.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#171 Mar 11, 2013
Yeah wrote:
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It may not be a game to you or me, but our corrupt political class plans one distraction after the other. One month we have the "fiscal cliff" battle. The next month it's the battle of the "sequester". The real discussion goes on behind close doors and we get theatrics. Obama's admin. renews Haliburton's contracts, expands civil rights violations like the Patriot Act, continues the brutality over seas and plunges the nation further in debt.
I believe in the U.S. system of government, I just have no confidence in our current political class. I don't understand how anyone could.
Nor do I. I agree with all you say, and would like to add another sickening game the GOP plays is the God pandering. Using God to get votes. Pushing pro life while paying for their mistress's abortions and killing innocents overseas as you pointed out. It is a game to these bastards, and they're playing it with our hard earned tax dollars. I read we can't afford "on the job training"? Isn't that PRECISELY what we did in 2008? LOL, unbelievable ......
zipyourlip

East Bernstadt, KY

#172 Mar 12, 2013
Costco's Profit Soars To $537 Million Just Days After CEO Endorses Minimum Wage Increase

Less than a week after Costco CEO Craig Jelinek spoke out in favor of raising the minimum wage, the big-box retailer’s earnings showed that paying workers a living wage doesn’t always hurt business.

Costco reported a profit of $537 million last quarter, up from $394 million during the same period last year, according to the Wall Street Journal. The healthy earnings report comes just six days after Jelinik urged lawmakers to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour.

“At Costco, we know that paying employees good wages makes good sense for business,” Jelinik said in a statement last week.“Instead of minimizing wages, we know it's a lot more profitable in the long term to minimize employee turnover and maximize employee productivity, commitment and loyalty. We support efforts to increase the federal minimum wage.”

Costco is known for paying its workers wages that are generally above average for the retail industry. An average Costco worker made about $45,000 in 2011, according to Fortune. That’s compared to an average of about $17,486 per year for a worker at comparable Walmart-owned Sam’s Club.

And apparently the extra pay pays off. Costco makes more than $10,000 in profits per employee, while Walmart takes home about $7,400 per worker, according to the Daily Beast (Walmart and Costco aren’t exactly the same type of business, however).

In addition to offering its workers high pay and the opportunity to unionize, Costco also provides a benefit many of its competitors don’t: health insurance for part- and full-time employees.

Some analysts have complained in the past that Costco’s worker-friendly policies aren’t so friendly to shareholders. If Tuesday’s results are any indication, those concerns may be exaggerated........not all CEO's are greedy, some are Democrats. I bet he isn't invited to Bilderberg. Sure wish there was a Costco here in Pulaski County, guess I have to spend my cash at Kroger, lol!

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#173 Mar 12, 2013
Kentucky is 10th in the nation for industry activity, Somerset 86th:

http://www.columbiamagazine.com/index.php...

.....huh....I thought nothing was happening here. At least that's what some say. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
zipyourlip

East Bernstadt, KY

#174 Mar 12, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
Kentucky is 10th in the nation for industry activity, Somerset 86th:
http://www.columbiamagazine.com/index.php...
.....huh....I thought nothing was happening here. At least that's what some say. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Guess the economy is bouncing back and Steve Beshear is doing a good job after all.....who knew coming from you, lololololol!

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#175 Mar 12, 2013
zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>Guess the economy is bouncing back and Steve Beshear is doing a good job after all.....who knew coming from you, lololololol!
Steve Beshear or any idiot in Frankfort did a damn thing. Local leaders, businesses, and the people did it. Forbes magazine didn't rank this the 50th worst run state in the nation for nothing. The state itself is going broke. We started a road project last year, got 2/3 finished and had to be shelved due to lack of funds....and that's just one of many, and some never got off the ground. Beshear and Frankfort are WORTHLESS. Thank God for some progressive minded local leadership, and dedicated business people and their workers. You know, the people you insulted earlier, and now can't admit you were wrong. No shocker, you Democrats are always blaming someone for the bad stuff, spending other people's money, not practicing what you preach, and taking credit for others' work. No real surprise here.....

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#176 Mar 12, 2013
Not shocking that you are wrong quite a bit on here and change the subject when confronted about it either .....
zipyourlip

East Bernstadt, KY

#177 Mar 12, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
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Steve Beshear or any idiot in Frankfort did a damn thing. Local leaders, businesses, and the people did it. Forbes magazine didn't rank this the 50th worst run state in the nation for nothing. The state itself is going broke. We started a road project last year, got 2/3 finished and had to be shelved due to lack of funds....and that's just one of many, and some never got off the ground. Beshear and Frankfort are WORTHLESS. Thank God for some progressive minded local leadership, and dedicated business people and their workers. You know, the people you insulted earlier, and now can't admit you were wrong. No shocker, you Democrats are always blaming someone for the bad stuff, spending other people's money, not practicing what you preach, and taking credit for others' work. No real surprise here.....
Which is it the 10th best state for new industry, or the 50th worst run state. Hard to tell anything coming from third party malcontents. Run the Republicans out of Frankfort and you might see progressive ideas like gaming, and alcohol sales bolster the state's tax base. Seems to me the 914 loop isn't finished either. You think Republican obstruction with federal funds might be the culprit for unfinished infrastructure projects...... I certainly do. It's our money as tax payers, not other people's money. I would be ecstatic to see construction jobs flourish locally, but those road projects aren't free, they take quite a lot of the coin of the realm. You called my hometown a sewer, and I proved to you it was one of the fastest growing counties in America according to the 2010 census. Joliet is the county seat of government. I insulted no one, you were the one who was wrong.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#178 Mar 13, 2013
zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>Which is it the 10th best state for new industry, or the 50th worst run state. Hard to tell anything coming from third party malcontents. Run the Republicans out of Frankfort and you might see progressive ideas like gaming, and alcohol sales bolster the state's tax base. Seems to me the 914 loop isn't finished either. You think Republican obstruction with federal funds might be the culprit for unfinished infrastructure projects...... I certainly do. It's our money as tax payers, not other people's money. I would be ecstatic to see construction jobs flourish locally, but those road projects aren't free, they take quite a lot of the coin of the realm. You called my hometown a sewer, and I proved to you it was one of the fastest growing counties in America according to the 2010 census. Joliet is the county seat of government. I insulted no one, you were the one who was wrong.
No, you've insulted Kentucky many times, but whatevs......BTW, Gatewood wanted casinos combined with off track betting, neither of the other candidates had that in their platforms .....

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#179 Mar 13, 2013
New industry does not equal efficiency in Frankfort .....I'll take Forbes magazine's word for it....I posted the link to the article during the governor race.
zipyourlip

East Bernstadt, KY

#180 Mar 13, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
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No, you've insulted Kentucky many times, but whatevs......BTW, Gatewood wanted casinos combined with off track betting, neither of the other candidates had that in their platforms .....
Times change, and new revenue sources should always be considered. I think Kentucky is a great place to be retired by the way, property taxes are much lower here than in Illinois, but other taxes are far worse. Retirees don't have to pay the 1% county occupational tax, but paying personal property taxes year after year on vehicles, boats, etc. seems ludicrous to me. Illinois has a flat rate to license all vehicles. Take a look at the taxes charged to your utility bills as well. You look at a lot of posts on these threads, and I think you would agree that many have received a less than stellar education. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have seen the word their spelled "thier". I also believe the church crowd should leave their beliefs inside their churches. Lower wages here hinder tax revenue as well. All in all, I am happy here, and a day out on Lake Cumberland is far less hectic than a day on the Illinois River or Lake Michigan, even when the Ohio Navy has launched, lol!

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#181 Mar 13, 2013
zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>Times change, and new revenue sources should always be considered. I think Kentucky is a great place to be retired by the way, property taxes are much lower here than in Illinois, but other taxes are far worse. Retirees don't have to pay the 1% county occupational tax, but paying personal property taxes year after year on vehicles, boats, etc. seems ludicrous to me. Illinois has a flat rate to license all vehicles. Take a look at the taxes charged to your utility bills as well. You look at a lot of posts on these threads, and I think you would agree that many have received a less than stellar education. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have seen the word their spelled "thier". I also believe the church crowd should leave their beliefs inside their churches. Lower wages here hinder tax revenue as well. All in all, I am happy here, and a day out on Lake Cumberland is far less hectic than a day on the Illinois River or Lake Michigan, even when the Ohio Navy has launched, lol!
Our tax code is whack....and our history of crooked politicians has sold us out to the highest bidder time and time again. Just look at all of the coal that has been hauled out of here, and yet look how poor this state is. Look at how the education is lacking? Why? This state should be LOADED, not lagging behind as the 50th worst run state in the union. Zip, if you were a native Kentuckian like myself, and had seen the underhanded good ol boy system run your state into the ground, you might just understand my disdain for politicians. We've had 'em from both sides, and it's the same results. There's no excuse for this piverty when you think about all of the minerals that have been pulled from under our feet. Our "leaders" were paid to look the other way. When you pull a simple farmer out of the field, stick him in a mine for 2 or 3 generations .....then pull out the mining company with ZERO reinvestment into those communities, you create a welfare state and subsequent generations learn to abuse and manipulate that system. We're a mess, but a lot of us are good folk....some ain't.

As for the church, it's a Christian's job to witness, but I'll agree they get way overzealous and out of bounds. I don't want my church involved in politics, cause I sure as hell don't want politics in my church! Unlike some, I know I sin, and am in no place to judge you or anyone else, and that's the way it should be.
zipyourlip

East Bernstadt, KY

#182 Mar 13, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
<quoted text>
Our tax code is whack....and our history of crooked politicians has sold us out to the highest bidder time and time again. Just look at all of the coal that has been hauled out of here, and yet look how poor this state is. Look at how the education is lacking? Why? This state should be LOADED, not lagging behind as the 50th worst run state in the union. Zip, if you were a native Kentuckian like myself, and had seen the underhanded good ol boy system run your state into the ground, you might just understand my disdain for politicians. We've had 'em from both sides, and it's the same results. There's no excuse for this piverty when you think about all of the minerals that have been pulled from under our feet. Our "leaders" were paid to look the other way. When you pull a simple farmer out of the field, stick him in a mine for 2 or 3 generations .....then pull out the mining company with ZERO reinvestment into those communities, you create a welfare state and subsequent generations learn to abuse and manipulate that system. We're a mess, but a lot of us are good folk....some ain't.
As for the church, it's a Christian's job to witness, but I'll agree they get way overzealous and out of bounds. I don't want my church involved in politics, cause I sure as hell don't want politics in my church! Unlike some, I know I sin, and am in no place to judge you or anyone else, and that's the way it should be.
I really don't get into state politics much here. I know little about Kentucky's past, and have decided it's best to let the working folks hash out their future. I find it odd that federal and state elections are not done on the same day to hold down costs. I have owned a home here for almost 6 years now, and haven't voted in a state election. I just like giving you the business, lol!

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#183 Mar 13, 2013
zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>I really don't get into state politics much here. I know little about Kentucky's past, and have decided it's best to let the working folks hash out their future. I find it odd that federal and state elections are not done on the same day to hold down costs. I have owned a home here for almost 6 years now, and haven't voted in a state election. I just like giving you the business, lol!
....as I enjoy returning fire. I really think you would have liked what Gatewood stood for and his ideas had you looked into it. There really isn't much difference between Democrats and Republicans around here.

As for our past, I'm an avid history buff, especially Kentucky history. I have done speeches and research projects on coal, the strikes, and Kentucky history in college. Even did a power point on the benefits of the UMWA in a business writing course....you would have been proud, LOL.

BTW, Galbraith was the only candidate endorsed by the UMWA in 2011....

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#184 Mar 13, 2013
....also, our banter helps me keep my wit and my bs detector keen, so I guess I am somewhat obliged to you for that...lol.
zipyourlip

East Bernstadt, KY

#185 Mar 13, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
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....as I enjoy returning fire. I really think you would have liked what Gatewood stood for and his ideas had you looked into it. There really isn't much difference between Democrats and Republicans around here.
As for our past, I'm an avid history buff, especially Kentucky history. I have done speeches and research projects on coal, the strikes, and Kentucky history in college. Even did a power point on the benefits of the UMWA in a business writing course....you would have been proud, LOL.
BTW, Galbraith was the only candidate endorsed by the UMWA in 2011....
My wife was watching some movie on Netflix the other day.....there was Gatewood. Made me think of you when I saw him shouting into a megaphone, lol!

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