“Boogie Chill'un”

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#123 Mar 6, 2013
.....even more absurd : your assertion that one side is involved in conspiracy with the elite, but somehow your side is some sort of Knight in shining armor crusaders here to vanquish the evil doers. Only problem with your candyland fantasy is that they ain't doing anything but talking.

Ain't no big rock candy mountain son....

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#124 Mar 7, 2013
In summation, the world according to lips on Joe Biden's zipper:

The Republicans spend tens of millions of dollars on a job that pays a few hundred thousand a year to conspire with their rich buddies to pass laws that stack the deck in their favor and screw the little guy.(Which is true, but he fails to see his side does the same thing).

The Democrats, on the other hand, spend more money than them to fight this mystical "crusade against tyranny" to become the last bastion of freedom. They spend all that coin for "the good of fellow man", public service and prestige. They are not involved, one iota, in the corrupt pay to play system that pervades politics these days. They are pure as the driven snow.....never involved in a scandal, and never have been (although LBJ was involved in the biggest scandal ever). He wants us to believe they've never taken a lobbyist dime or never taken that good ol bribe money during campaign season. They spend tens of millions of dollars on a job that pays no more than $400k, the top executive pay, to "fight the good fight".

PPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

You can't make this stuff up! Lmfao! Have y'all ever in your lives heard such Alice in Wonderland horse puckey? Lolololololololol

Thanks for the laughs zippity do dah!!!!! You should look into stand up comedy.....or the psych ward if you believe all that sh*t you copy and paste!

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#125 Mar 7, 2013
JumperJuice wrote:
<quoted text>Fair enough assessment....but when considering the charity aspect (and I'm not bashing Gates or insinuating he is guilty of this), you must consider how an aging Andrew Carnegie became regretful and THEN a philanthropist......then Rockefeller joined in due to a sick game of competition. Anytime I see a Rockefeller on the roll call, I get suspicious. Remember all is not always what it seems......Wizard of Oz anyone? LOL
Yes, I agree. Carnegie was a thug, as were most of those guys. I have mixed feelings about that too.

I feel like if a thug later becomes charitable we have to accept that charity, if it is helpful. Otherwise the message we send is that it doesn't matter what you do we will always treat you like a thug.

If a restaurant or its owner has a social position that I think is hateful, such as supporting anti-gay groups, I will not purchase food from that restaurant (if I know about it). But if that establishment changes its views to a positive role and stops supporting hate groups I personally feel inclined to give them my business as a sign that I acknowledge their change and I appreciate it. Otherwise there would be less incentive for them to change.

And let's face it, a robber baron is not your friend. But if his vast wealth can do good things later on, then let it do good things. At least there is some positive coming out of that terrible negative.
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#126 Mar 7, 2013
Only in story books, not in real time.
Yeah

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#127 Mar 7, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
If a restaurant or its owner has a social position that I think is hateful, such as supporting anti-gay groups, I will not purchase food from that restaurant (if I know about it).
Chick-fil-A's business has increased since the controversy.
I see people being pigeonholed as hateful, haters or anti-gay just because they are honest about the anomalous nature of homosexuality. You're not anti anything just because you recognize an anomaly and see the potential for harm in elevating it above that status.

An example: Some animals are meat eaters. Watch animal lovers/trainers try to explain away a meat eating animals actions, when it kills a human. They are attempting to elevate that animal's intent above that which nature has placed in it.

This entire gay marriage controversy is an emotionally charged means of division, being used by politicians to distract us from them. That's not to say that some people don't care deeply about gay marriage. But, no politician does. Pay them enough money and they will say they care about anything.

I remember hearing that part of the communist's stradegy for weakening a nation was to steep the population in a preoccupation with sex.
Look at the stats on people from single parent homes in prison, look at the epidemic of various STD's, look at porn addiction.

You try to accuse any form of sexual restraint on religious zealots, but the truth is that sexual restraint is (or should be) understood as a natural nescessity for everyone. Like over eating or eating healthy.

The political class is willing to exploit any group. Right now it's gays and gays will suffer the backlash, when they've served their purpose.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#128 Mar 7, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I agree. Carnegie was a thug, as were most of those guys. I have mixed feelings about that too.
I feel like if a thug later becomes charitable we have to accept that charity, if it is helpful. Otherwise the message we send is that it doesn't matter what you do we will always treat you like a thug.
If a restaurant or its owner has a social position that I think is hateful, such as supporting anti-gay groups, I will not purchase food from that restaurant (if I know about it). But if that establishment changes its views to a positive role and stops supporting hate groups I personally feel inclined to give them my business as a sign that I acknowledge their change and I appreciate it. Otherwise there would be less incentive for them to change.
And let's face it, a robber baron is not your friend. But if his vast wealth can do good things later on, then let it do good things. At least there is some positive coming out of that terrible negative.
I don't know Yiago, I think they mostly do it later in life as fears about meeting their maker start to set in. I see it more as trying to buy a ticket into heaven, than caring about the fellow man they stepped all over to gain their wealth. That said, I appreciate and understand what you're saying, and there's some real merit . Good post....

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#129 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Chick-fil-A's business has increased since the controversy.
I see people being pigeonholed as hateful, haters or anti-gay just because they are honest about the anomalous nature of homosexuality. You're not anti anything just because you recognize an anomaly and see the potential for harm in elevating it above that status.
An example: Some animals are meat eaters. Watch animal lovers/trainers try to explain away a meat eating animals actions, when it kills a human. They are attempting to elevate that animal's intent above that which nature has placed in it.
This entire gay marriage controversy is an emotionally charged means of division, being used by politicians to distract us from them. That's not to say that some people don't care deeply about gay marriage. But, no politician does. Pay them enough money and they will say they care about anything.
I remember hearing that part of the communist's stradegy for weakening a nation was to steep the population in a preoccupation with sex.
Look at the stats on people from single parent homes in prison, look at the epidemic of various STD's, look at porn addiction.
You try to accuse any form of sexual restraint on religious zealots, but the truth is that sexual restraint is (or should be) understood as a natural nescessity for everyone. Like over eating or eating healthy.
The political class is willing to exploit any group. Right now it's gays and gays will suffer the backlash, when they've served their purpose.
Brilliant and spot on.....
Google

Somerset, KY

#130 Mar 7, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
I think every person on earth could drown in Loch Ness at the same time.
I think it's Jacksonville, FL that every person on earth could fit in at the same time.
I bought into the over population thing for a while, til I looked into it.
We don't have an over population problem, not even close. We have a misuse of resources and corrupt political class problem.
If we had used our resources in the way that technology would have allowed us to, there would be enough for thousands of years.
But then we wouldn't have had people getting ultra-rich in less than a single generation.
Well I still think we are overpopulated but I also agree we misuse our resources as well. Not just us, China killed what 50 million due to starvation back in the 50s with their Great Leap Forward crap?

Something needs to change. Maybe we need a nice politician disease, some type of super STD so we make sure all the politicians get it :-)

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#131 Mar 7, 2013
Google wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I still think we are overpopulated but I also agree we misuse our resources as well. Not just us, China killed what 50 million due to starvation back in the 50s with their Great Leap Forward crap?
Something needs to change. Maybe we need a nice politician disease, some type of super STD so we make sure all the politicians get it :-)
Now THAT'S a good idea!
anonymous user

Bensenville, IL

#132 Mar 7, 2013
zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>......and how old would have to be to call another lips on my zipper? Your conspiracy theories fall apart when you look at the legislative efforts of the Democrats in Congress, which is always something that you always fail to recognize. We never hear the pros or cons from you about what is happening real time on the hill.....we just get the delusional rants of someone trying to sell a bill of goods that the Democrats and Republicans are working in unison to hold America hostage. What we do hear is history of eras long gone and of little significance to real time issues facing us all. It's no wonder most on these threads find you boorish and vague.....a loud mouth with nothing to add to the solutions of the nation's problems. The Bilderbergs are a group of capitalists, America is a bastion for capitalism. Our leaders are elected to promote capitalism, and both parties need great knowledge of the world. That is more fact, not a conspiracy. We in the Democratic Party support our corporations and want them to prosper, but we also demand a living wage for everyone. No union participation at Bilderberg is all you need to know folks, that's not a conspiracy either.......it's the way of the world.
do you support the ultimate conspiracy theory, fu#$ing Al Gore manbearpig himself, an inconvenient truth.? A total bullsh!t way to jack up our electric bills while little Al gets rich! F@ ck Al gore. And f()ck you and the bilderbergs this is how to destroy the middle class. If you down the Appalachian area people again, we will remember you.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#133 Mar 7, 2013
anonymous user wrote:
<quoted text>do you support the ultimate conspiracy theory, fu#$ing Al Gore manbearpig himself, an inconvenient truth.? A total bullsh!t way to jack up our electric bills while little Al gets rich! F@ ck Al gore. And f()ck you and the bilderbergs this is how to destroy the middle class. If you down the Appalachian area people again, we will remember you.
That Illinois trash ain't worth the scraped knuckles, seriously dude. I've tried to be civil with this clown, and I say F*** IT! Never again .....if he ever reaponds to me again, it's both barrels all day every day. I will ignore him if he returns the favor. The funny thing is, he talks this sh* t about me being boorish on here, yet he's had tiffs with most everyone on here ....while I have had issues with him and literally a couple others (which may have been one troll with multiple names). Just another dipsh*t Yankee who thinks he's better than all of us hillbillies. The truth is he's a retired mailman who is controlled by DNC propaganda.

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#134 Mar 8, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Chick-fil-A's business has increased since the controversy.
I see people being pigeonholed as hateful, haters or anti-gay just because they are honest about the anomalous nature of homosexuality. You're not anti anything just because you recognize an anomaly and see the potential for harm in elevating it above that status.
An example: Some animals are meat eaters. Watch animal lovers/trainers try to explain away a meat eating animals actions, when it kills a human. They are attempting to elevate that animal's intent above that which nature has placed in it.
This entire gay marriage controversy is an emotionally charged means of division, being used by politicians to distract us from them. That's not to say that some people don't care deeply about gay marriage. But, no politician does. Pay them enough money and they will say they care about anything.
I remember hearing that part of the communist's stradegy for weakening a nation was to steep the population in a preoccupation with sex.
Look at the stats on people from single parent homes in prison, look at the epidemic of various STD's, look at porn addiction.
You try to accuse any form of sexual restraint on religious zealots, but the truth is that sexual restraint is (or should be) understood as a natural nescessity for everyone. Like over eating or eating healthy.
The political class is willing to exploit any group. Right now it's gays and gays will suffer the backlash, when they've served their purpose.
I have no idea what kind of analogy you're trying to make with the man-eating animal argument.

I have not paid any attention to the impact on Chik-fil-a. I don't care. I do know that they are a pariah among thinking people, regardless of how many Fundamentalists now eat there who did not eat there before.

I also don't care what politicians actually believe. Since I cannot know them personally, in nearly all cases, it doesn't matter. What matters is what they say and what they do. If the President is saying correct things about social equality and the dignity of human beings and if he is acting in accordance with those things he said then I do not care one way or another how he truly feels on the subject.

Also, this is not a thread about gay marriage. Do you think the Bilderberg Group is a conspiracy to control our lives?
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#135 Mar 8, 2013
So far, They have been doing just that since 1954 and beyond. That part is History.

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#136 Mar 8, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
I think every person on earth could drown in Loch Ness at the same time.
I think it's Jacksonville, FL that every person on earth could fit in at the same time.
I bought into the over population thing for a while, til I looked into it.
We don't have an over population problem, not even close. We have a misuse of resources and corrupt political class problem.
If we had used our resources in the way that technology would have allowed us to, there would be enough for thousands of years.
But then we wouldn't have had people getting ultra-rich in less than a single generation.
It isn't that there are too many people to fit on the planet, but given our current ability to distribute food and resources the more people you add the more suffering you create.

Considering how many children die every damn minute in African alone it seems like a pretty good idea to slow down on the population growth while we figure some sh*t out.

If you can't take care of every single person you create then it is reckless to create people. Couple that with the rampant lack of good education that would limit reproduction (higher education typically = lower number of children per family) you have a bad mix that leads to starvation, disease, and human trafficking among other nice things.
Myth

Sheridan, AR

#137 Mar 8, 2013
Google wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I still think we are overpopulated but I also agree we misuse our resources as well. Not just us, China killed what 50 million due to starvation back in the 50s with their Great Leap Forward crap?
Something needs to change. Maybe we need a nice politician disease, some type of super STD so we make sure all the politicians get it :-)
Spend a few minutes educating yourself about overpopulation. Here is the math.

gomer-ez

London, KY

#138 Mar 8, 2013
Another moment in my life I will never get back.
Nice stick cartoon figures.
zipyourlip

Sheridan, AR

#140 Mar 8, 2013
Will County is a county located in the northern part of the U.S. state of Illinois. This county is part of the Chicago metropolitan area. According to the 2010 census, it has a population of 677,560, which is an increase of 34.9% from 502,266 in 2000, making it one of the fastest growing counties in the United States. The county seat of Will County is Joliet......The median income for a household in the county was $62,238, and the median income for a family was $69,608........Madison County is a county located in the U.S. state of Kentucky. According to the 2010 census, the population was 82,916. Its county seat is Richmond.........The median income for a household in the county was $32,861, and the median income for a family was $41,383.......... I don't believe it would take the brains of Einstein to figure out where the cesspool is located. Illinois, well educated work force, strong labor unions, strong beliefs in capitalism and commerce = prosperity. Kentucky, poorly educated, weak labor unions, strong beliefs in conspiracy and anarchy = desperation!

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#141 Mar 8, 2013
Myth wrote:
<quoted text>
Spend a few minutes educating yourself about overpopulation. Here is the math.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =HsAracLBCxIXX
I think the video ignores the real issue. Who cares what some vicar said 200 years ago?

The issue is human suffering. We have limited resources and we are not good at distributing them efficiently or fairly. We obsess over what's "mine" vs. what's "yours". So it kind of makes good sense to keep a handle on population growth.

It's dumb to argue that this is about physical space. The Texas argument is, IMHO, a ridiculous side stepping of the real problem.

As a side note, if you click on the name of the guy who posted that video on YouTube, you get all kinds of nuttery from Zeitgeist to New World Order to UFO conspiracies.

Red flags were going up so fast I thought I was at a Chinese political rally.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#143 Mar 8, 2013
....a difference of $3300.00.....and they ranked closely in standard of living indexes as well.

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#144 Mar 8, 2013
But health care cost is 21% higher .....and why, exactly, did you move here again? If it's a cess pool, WHY ARE YOU HERE?

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