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Baron Von Redneck

United States

#24 Nov 12, 2012
I don't disagree with some of the principles of obamacare, and I think the whole program was started with good intentions. The problem I have with it is more of an overall concern. The health care system is screwed up; I don't think anyone will argue that point. However, democrats historically side with unions and lawyers. Nothing will change for the good with more federal beauracracy involved. George Will stated it very well... "this election is about the difference between big government and small government". Well big government won, for many reasons, and a lot of them were valid. I personally will agree that government intervention will actually help ANY industry. If you think it will, ask yourself what really happened with the housing bubble.
Baron Von Redneck

United States

#25 Nov 12, 2012
...government intervention will actually NOT help ANY industry.

oops!
Buddah

Vilonia, AR

#26 Nov 12, 2012
Cycles wrote:
So who is obamacare going to make more wealthy? I think healthcare insurance should be non-profit. No one should get wealthy at the cost of others health.
Capitalism exists to make profit. It's the desire for profit that provides any service, from McDonald's to Chevrolet to Humana.

I can see that you voted for Obama, right?
Cycles

Somerset, KY

#27 Nov 12, 2012
Sorry I didn't vote for Obama or Romney. I don't wish to live in government housing any more than I wish to live in company housing. I said the post your using wrong as I actually don't like obamacare and meant I feel it will make insurance companies richer. I understand desire of profit drives progress and I'm ok with that to a point. It's the desire of profit that also drives bank robbers. I feel big corporations have got to the point of cheating their employees and customers.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

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#28 Nov 13, 2012
Cycles wrote:
Sorry I didn't vote for Obama or Romney. I don't wish to live in government housing any more than I wish to live in company housing. I said the post your using wrong as I actually don't like obamacare and meant I feel it will make insurance companies richer. I understand desire of profit drives progress and I'm ok with that to a point. It's the desire of profit that also drives bank robbers. I feel big corporations have got to the point of cheating their employees and customers.
Preach it Cycles.......now, you're talking my language!
Paul Revere

London, KY

#29 Nov 16, 2012
Old Enough To Know Better wrote:
<quoted text>Patently wrong. Already more people have insurance. The real question is if the insurance is worth anything. Insurance is not healthcare.
<quoted text>That's your claim. Where's your proof?
<quoted text>It already is
<quoted text>If only that were true, they are the cause of the mess that we have. Theya re the ones raping the system. They need to be put out of business.
<quoted text>That's your interpretation and is simply name-calling at best.
Thanks for the Marxist/Socialist viewpoint. Care to add oil companies, large retailers, fast food restaurants and banks to the list of corporate targets you'd like to see "put out of business"?

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

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#30 Nov 17, 2012
Paul Revere wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the Marxist/Socialist viewpoint. Care to add oil companies, large retailers, fast food restaurants and banks to the list of corporate targets you'd like to see "put out of business"?
So where's the happy medium? We already pay for people's healthcare who are uninsured when they show up at the ER with a head cold. Who foots that bill? I'll tell ya who, us working stiffs down here in this 30% tax bracket, that's who! At some point, these corporate CEO's are gonna have to make do with 5 houses instead of seven. They're going to have to buy the Ferrari instead of the Bugatti Veyron. Without consumers who can afford their goods, they'll be the first targeted when anarchy ensues because people are starving.

At some point, the lifetime benefits of politicians HAS GOT TO STOP. I see you get on here and rail on unions, but never say a word about the self voted politicians' raises, benefits, etc.
You know

Nashville, TN

#31 Nov 17, 2012
Hospital med floor, empty. ICU, empty. Talk to someone that you know in healthcare. As parts of this law are put into place, huge cuts in services are starting to show. Obamacare is about insurance companies and the government squeezing profits out of healthcare. It's already too late for us because it's law now. Die hard partisans will never admit that this was a bad thing. Even if they are 90+ years old and can't get a broken femur fixed because of your age and the cost, like a woman that I know of right now in Somerset. Too old to treat.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#32 Nov 17, 2012
You know wrote:
Hospital med floor, empty. ICU, empty. Talk to someone that you know in healthcare. As parts of this law are put into place, huge cuts in services are starting to show. Obamacare is about insurance companies and the government squeezing profits out of healthcare. It's already too late for us because it's law now. Die hard partisans will never admit that this was a bad thing. Even if they are 90+ years old and can't get a broken femur fixed because of your age and the cost, like a woman that I know of right now in Somerset. Too old to treat.
Ok, I can....my wife works at Central Baptist....FULL. My dad laid in the ER at UK for 6 hours because they could not find a bed in ICU....Full. Quit lying.
ask

Belvidere, IL

#33 Nov 17, 2012
JumperJuice wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, I can....my wife works at Central Baptist....FULL. My dad laid in the ER at UK for 6 hours because they could not find a bed in ICU....Full. Quit lying.
Services are starting to be denied. It's not a lie. There is no reason to lie about this.
Big daddy

London, KY

#34 Nov 17, 2012
No good
the great one

Eubank, KY

#35 Nov 17, 2012
One world nation one world leader, Mark of the beast by implanting tracking device in all people. America is over & freedom is gone. We cannot defend our own people much less our country.
America has brought this upon ourselfs by voting in a muslem leader not once but twice. The rapture is closer than we think.
earth angel

Somerset, KY

#36 Nov 18, 2012
the great one wrote:
One world nation one world leader, Mark of the beast by implanting tracking device in all people. America is over & freedom is gone. We cannot defend our own people much less our country.
America has brought this upon ourselfs by voting in a muslem leader not once but twice. The rapture is closer than we think.
EVERYTHING is Gods plan....if this is truly what u think is happening, you should probably make sure u are prepared and quit judging others.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#37 Nov 18, 2012
ask wrote:
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Services are starting to be denied. It's not a lie. There is no reason to lie about this.
Where's the link, proof? I haven't been denied anything. Neither has my father, my grandfather, my wife during her pregnancy, nor our child. Matter of fact, she was nicu AS A PRECAUTION. Of course we are all responsible, paying for health insurance, or on Medicare and veterans' assistance.....being a WWII vet. My wife, brother, and sister in law all work at hospitals, and I've not heard of ONE instance of the fear mongering your spreading.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#38 Nov 18, 2012
earth angel wrote:
<quoted text>
EVERYTHING is Gods plan....if this is truly what u think is happening, you should probably make sure u are prepared and quit judging others.
Yeah, and quit voting for faux Christian candidates. I don't remember Jesus ever saying use my name to gain power, fame, and fortune....but I do remember him tossing the pharacees and the people doing business in front of the church.
getyourshinebox

Brownsville, TN

#39 Nov 18, 2012
You know wrote:
Hospital med floor, empty. ICU, empty. Talk to someone that you know in healthcare. As parts of this law are put into place, huge cuts in services are starting to show. Obamacare is about insurance companies and the government squeezing profits out of healthcare. It's already too late for us because it's law now. Die hard partisans will never admit that this was a bad thing. Even if they are 90+ years old and can't get a broken femur fixed because of your age and the cost, like a woman that I know of right now in Somerset. Too old to treat.
I wished you even had one fact in your post to reply to.

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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