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#59 Nov 29, 2013
Brother Winston wrote:
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To answer your questions,#1, yes, with the King James 1611 probably being the most accurate complete translation.#2, no, it seems like to me that, Adam was an insertion into an already created mix of humans--that he was made specifically for a lineage to produce a Savior and many offspring with the traits of YHWH, Himself, and that Eve was created to help Adam reproduce and train this lineage.
I hope this answers your two questions satisfactorily.
Seriously? The King James is the worst translation. It even bears the name of the guy who commissioned the revamping done for his own political purposes. The best translation meaning the least tweaking for political purposes is the Douay Rheems. Also Even having been made from Adam, was just a clone with the Y chromosomes washed out. There isn't anything more incestuous than that.

But to the proximate question, that poster may want to read the apocryphal books of the Bible, the stories, histories, and traditions that were in vogue at the time of the Council of Nicea when the Bible was assembled. Some books were not included not because the council thought they were wrong but that they were so popular that they thought that they were so well known that they didn't need to include them (and waste money on transcription of stories everyone already knew)

When you take that into account and read those books, you find that Eve was not the first woman. She was the second. Lilith was the first but she was strong and intelligent and refused to be dominated by Adam and Adam wimped out and went crying to God that he wanted to be the boss and God gave in and made Eve the vapid ditz incestuous clone of Adam. As the stories go, Cain was the son of Lilith and Abel was the son of Eve, so there was a population of people prior to Adam and Lilith but presumably they were the first to be sentient.

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#60 Nov 29, 2013
Educated wrote:
<quoted text>Seriously? The King James is the worst translation. It even bears the name of the guy who commissioned the revamping done for his own political purposes. The best translation meaning the least tweaking for political purposes is the Douay Rheems. Also Even having been made from Adam, was just a clone with the Y chromosomes washed out. There isn't anything more incestuous than that.
But to the proximate question, that poster may want to read the apocryphal books of the Bible, the stories, histories, and traditions that were in vogue at the time of the Council of Nicea when the Bible was assembled. Some books were not included not because the council thought they were wrong but that they were so popular that they thought that they were so well known that they didn't need to include them (and waste money on transcription of stories everyone already knew)
When you take that into account and read those books, you find that Eve was not the first woman. She was the second. Lilith was the first but she was strong and intelligent and refused to be dominated by Adam and Adam wimped out and went crying to God that he wanted to be the boss and God gave in and made Eve the vapid ditz incestuous clone of Adam. As the stories go, Cain was the son of Lilith and Abel was the son of Eve, so there was a population of people prior to Adam and Lilith but presumably they were the first to be sentient.
Lilith, that bitch. Does she not know her place? Adam should have gone out and drank a bottle of Jack, came home and kicked her ass.
liberal waiting on check

Olive Branch, MS

#61 Nov 29, 2013
Gomer-ez wrote:
God was an astronaut.
the repulicans need to shut up and quit whining about obama care, and help the democrats get the health care act train rolling,there are several americans that need affordable insurance. hopitals need to be regulated on pricing, the texas govenor needs to be impeached,(anti abortion bill signed), cigna, united health care, and atena, go to hell, no one will pay your high prices for health care coverage when obama care takes effect, the health care insurance market will open up with more choices at a lower price. your going broke (large health insurance companies taking 30% of worker wages for 80% coverage,$2000.00 deductable). vote out republicans if we have to to get this thing (obama care) rolling.

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#62 Nov 29, 2013
liberal waiting on check wrote:
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the repulicans need to shut up and quit whining about obama care, and help the democrats get the health care act train rolling,there are several americans that need affordable insurance. hopitals need to be regulated on pricing, the texas govenor needs to be impeached,(anti abortion bill signed), cigna, united health care, and atena, go to hell, no one will pay your high prices for health care coverage when obama care takes effect, the health care insurance market will open up with more choices at a lower price. your going broke (large health insurance companies taking 30% of worker wages for 80% coverage,$2000.00 deductable). vote out republicans if we have to to get this thing (obama care) rolling.

obummercare? you are kidding right?
15% of americans did not have insurance, so obummer screws the 85% who were insured to give the 15% insurance. Less than 1% have sighned up. Why did he not just work on the 15%, which were probably covered by media -cade anyway. This has to be a joke ,right?
You are confined to the insurance companies in your state. Why?

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#63 Nov 30, 2013
liberal waiting on check wrote:
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the repulicans need to shut up and quit whining about obama care, and help the democrats get the health care act train rolling,there are several americans that need affordable insurance. hopitals need to be regulated on pricing, the texas govenor needs to be impeached,(anti abortion bill signed), cigna, united health care, and atena, go to hell, no one will pay your high prices for health care coverage when obama care takes effect, the health care insurance market will open up with more choices at a lower price. your going broke (large health insurance companies taking 30% of worker wages for 80% coverage,$2000.00 deductable). vote out republicans if we have to to get this thing (obama care) rolling.
What does obummercare have to do with God being an astronaut?
I can see we wasted our tax dollars on your education.
manfromthewest

Somerset, KY

#64 Nov 30, 2013
our nation is going to hell in a hat basket now that God and prayer is not allowed in school and now the pledge and pride in our country.. is not taught..look around us at the moral decay of our daily lives is going..anything goes in music and movies and on television. kids in school disrespecting teachers and no discipline . BRING BACK THE PADDLE.
Tough Love

Somerset, KY

#65 Nov 30, 2013
manfromthewest wrote:
our nation is going to hell in a hat basket now that God and prayer is not allowed in school and now the pledge and pride in our country.. is not taught..look around us at the moral decay of our daily lives is going..anything goes in music and movies and on television. kids in school disrespecting teachers and no discipline . BRING BACK THE PADDLE.
It always amazes me when people equate their own religious beliefs with the moral imperative; as if people who do not follow specific religious teachings have no morals. I'm not a fan of bumper stickers but this one is right on the mark:

"Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told regardless of what is right."

Can't imagine how any one could believe that hitting and humiliating a child is a moral act.

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#66 Nov 30, 2013
"now that God and prayer is not allowed in school"

Your child is allowed to believe in your god and pray in school. School officials are not allowed to indoctrinate children with whatever religion they follow. Learn the difference.
manfromthewest wrote:
our nation is going to hell in a hat basket now that God and prayer is not allowed in school and now the pledge and pride in our country.. is not taught..look around us at the moral decay of our daily lives is going..anything goes in music and movies and on television. kids in school disrespecting teachers and no discipline . BRING BACK THE PADDLE.

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#68 Nov 30, 2013
turkey wrote:
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When religion was allowed in public schools, black kids were not. Using your logic then you could blame black kids for our nation going to hell. Using the same logic, since our nation is 80 something % Christians then Christians are the blame for our great nation going to hell in a "hat basket." Maybe if 80% of the population were Atheist our nation would be doing better.
Jesus never prayed in public, he said to pray in private. How can prayer be taken away when you pray as Jesus did?
Personally I think poor education and a lack of decent jobs are to blame for the problems we have today. People with a good job, extra income and their needs met, are a lot less likely to commit crimes or use drugs to make their problems go away. As it stands now people just breed like rabbits without even worrying about how they will take care of their children and expect others to do it for them.
That's my opinion on it anyway.
You forgot poor parenting. As a rule a household does better with both parents. Today they are having babies and moving on. What has happened to parenting values?
liberal waiting on check

Olive Branch, MS

#69 Nov 30, 2013
Gomer-ez wrote:
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What does obummercare have to do with God being an astronaut?
I can see we wasted our tax dollars on your education.
your tax dollars were spent well, i learned things in school that are science proven, your group preaches a bunch of fantasy, you people are nuts. your terrorist.

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#70 Dec 1, 2013
liberal waiting on check wrote:
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your tax dollars were spent well, i learned things in school that are science proven, your group preaches a bunch of fantasy, you people are nuts. your terrorist.
Is that all you go? I did not know I was a part of a group.
I am a terrorist? Gee, and I guess that is science proven. All else fails, call me a name.
aahhh come on give me your best shot.

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Somerset, KY

#71 Dec 1, 2013
liberal waiting on check wrote:
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your tax dollars were spent well, i learned things in school that are science proven, your group preaches a bunch of fantasy, you people are nuts. your terrorist.
Since you only deal in scientific facts. The only person I know who supports terrorism, is obummer. He supported the Mexican cartel, by selling them guns. He has given Alcadia weapons( they were the ones who brought the towers down) in Syria.He refused to let them put the Muslim major on trial for terrorism. He murdered several soldiers at Fort Hood.
The way I look at it, you support terrorism, if you voted for obummer.
Besides that he is a racist, and druggie.

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