Industrial Hemp = Chia pets???

Industrial Hemp = Chia pets???

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“smiling on a cloudy day”

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#1 Feb 15, 2013
Wow, another good example of some of the sterling politicians we here in Pulaski county choose to represent us. Our state senator, breaking from his party, was one of only six to vote against the bill allowing our state's farmers to grow hemp for industrial uses if and when the federal government allows it.

Sen. Chris Girdler, R-Somerset, said he believes that "growing a Chia Pet would have as much economic impact as growing hemp."

Way to sound smart there Chris.

By the way, it was reported today that Mitch McConnell has signed on as a co-sponsor for similar legislation on the national level.

Sure seems like a lot of Republican support for our small farmers. Why does Chris not stand with his party? The only person in the House crying about this bill is Greg Stumbo. Would Chris rather caucus with the Democrats and their nanny-state?
gomer-ez

London, KY

#2 Feb 15, 2013
Let's get out of the stone ages,and back to reality.

the puritans burned witches at the stake.This is the 21st century
Hemp ,Marijuana,legalize it all with one swoop of the pen.
Maybe I should have said stoned ages.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

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#3 Feb 15, 2013
ďI am proud to introduce legislation with my friend Rand Paul that will allow Kentucky farmers to harness the economic potential that industrial hemp can provide,Ē McConnell said in a statement Thursday. "During these tough economic times, this legislation has the potential to create jobs and provide a boost to Kentuckyís economy and to our farmers and their families."

But according to our State Senator, these farmers already have access to Chia Pets, why does our state need another cash crop?

Pathetic.
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#4 Feb 15, 2013
Out of the mouth of babes....

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#5 Feb 15, 2013
Hemp: Fuel, Food, Fiber, Medicine, Industry

Fuel:

Farming 6% of the continental U.S. acreage with biomass crops would provide all of America's energy needs.
Hemp is Earth's number-one biomass resource; it is capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months.
Biomass can be converted to methane, methanol, or gasoline at a cost comparable to petroleum, and hemp is much better for the environment. Pyrolysis (charcoalizing), or biochemical composting are two methods of turning hemp into fuel.
Hemp can produce 10 times more methanol than corn.
Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution.
The use of hemp fuel does not contribute to global warming.

http://www.hempcar.org/hempfacts.shtml

"Hemp is capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months." Now that's just hemp, could you imagine what an acre of high quality sticky bud would produce?

"Ford recognized the utility of the hemp plant. He constructed a car of resin stiffened hemp fiber, and even ran the car on ethanol made from hemp. Ford knew that hemp could produce vast economic resources if widely cultivated."
http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml

Hemp is a wonderful plant with many uses. Everyone needs to do some research on the plant before they just dismiss it as a drug people want to get high on.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

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#6 Feb 15, 2013
Meat Straw wrote:
Hemp: Fuel, Food, Fiber, Medicine, Industry
Fuel:
Farming 6% of the continental U.S. acreage with biomass crops would provide all of America's energy needs.
Hemp is Earth's number-one biomass resource; it is capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months.
Biomass can be converted to methane, methanol, or gasoline at a cost comparable to petroleum, and hemp is much better for the environment. Pyrolysis (charcoalizing), or biochemical composting are two methods of turning hemp into fuel.
Hemp can produce 10 times more methanol than corn.
Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution.
The use of hemp fuel does not contribute to global warming.
http://www.hempcar.org/hempfacts.shtml
"Hemp is capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months." Now that's just hemp, could you imagine what an acre of high quality sticky bud would produce?
"Ford recognized the utility of the hemp plant. He constructed a car of resin stiffened hemp fiber, and even ran the car on ethanol made from hemp. Ford knew that hemp could produce vast economic resources if widely cultivated."
http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml
Hemp is a wonderful plant with many uses. Everyone needs to do some research on the plant before they just dismiss it as a drug people want to get high on.
Obviously, all this can be accomplished by an amazing novelty gift sold on television.

“Boogie Chill'un”

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#7 Feb 15, 2013
It's time for Chris Girdler to be sent packing.

Good research there Meat Straw....I've put up similar information on here myself, yet so many people continue with their outlandish claims they got from "Reefer Madness". The ONLY reason hemp was ever banned was to protect William Randolph-Hearst's timber interests and the Dupont's petro-chemical and synthetic fiber interests....they even created an office for Harry Anslinger, who married the niece of Andrew Mellon .....the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, later became the DEA. The ever "benevolent" Randolph - Hearst "allowed" Anslinger to run his smear campaign fiction in all of his newspapers. Fanatasies about ax murderers in Florida, high on pot, "colored" students high raping white girls at the University of Minnesota ....Mexicans on the border "committing all sorts of atrocities".....they used lies and racism to attack marijuana, then just threw in hemp "for good measure". They knew couldn't convince folks to outlaw hemp on its own, so the made up lies about using hemp to camouflage marijuana patches, which is IMPOSSIBLE to do. Yep ol Anslinger was a real "concerned public servant". So concerned, in fact, that he authorized a DC druggist to dispense the outlawed morphine to addicted Senator MacArthur ....drugs are bad, unless you were in government!

HEMP FOR VICTORY!!!!!

Nice work Rand, Gatewood would be proud.....
Westwood

East Bernstadt, KY

#8 Feb 15, 2013
Is anyone interested in buying some oceanfront property in Arizona? If you believe the hempsters, I have some nice Arizona beach property for sale.

“smiling on a cloudy day”

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#9 Feb 15, 2013
Westwood wrote:
Is anyone interested in buying some oceanfront property in Arizona? If you believe the hempsters, I have some nice Arizona beach property for sale.
Give one good reason why it should remain illegal, especially once the federal government lifts their prohibition?

If it isn't a profitable crop, farmers won't grow it. Let the free market work, right?

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#10 Feb 15, 2013
There IS NO reason why it shouldn't be grown here. Same as there's no reason for Pulaski County to continue staying "dry".

I've come to realize that the only way I'm going to see my tax dollars start helping the area that I live in to grow and expand with the times, is to move somewhere more progressive again. I hate to do that, I love it here. It has SO much potential that's being wasted though.

We simply won't accomplish anything with the leadership we have right now.

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#13 Feb 15, 2013
Westwood wrote:
Is anyone interested in buying some oceanfront property in Arizona? If you believe the hempsters, I have some nice Arizona beach property for sale.
How much you want for it?
Westwood

East Bernstadt, KY

#14 Feb 15, 2013
Bronston Man wrote:
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Give one good reason why it should remain illegal, especially once the federal government lifts their prohibition?
If it isn't a profitable crop, farmers won't grow it. Let the free market work, right?
It shouldn't remain illegal to grow for a market.
If your friend Mitch and his cronies in Frankfort are for it, it should cause you to be very cautious. Why do you think they are pro hemp? They know there is not a shot in the world of it becoming legal to grow. If they are for it, they can get the support of a few indies and a whole crapload of liberals. I can't believe some people are falling for this. Especially the same people that distrusts government.
I'd be in favor of flooding the state with hemp. Grow it everywhere, get the air saturated with hemp pollen then let mother nature take over.
Woodstock

Huntsville, TN

#15 Feb 15, 2013
"Cannabis extract medicine, also known as "hemp oil" when referring to the type pioneered by Rick Simpson, is a concentrated formulation of cannabis that is ingested orally. By eating large quantities of the oil over a three to six month period, nearly any disease you can imagine can either be cured or completely controlled. This is possible because cannabis medicine works fundamentally through the endocannabinoid system, the superregulatory system of our bodies that maintains homeostasis in the other systems.

The oil is ingested, not smoked, meaning it is digested through the system that is meant to absorb nutrients.

Essentially, you are feeding your body the pure molecules that enable it to stay balanced, and since all disease is an imbalance of some kind, this medicine is effective against nearly anything. At least, that's what the bulk of science and real experience show.

Scientific Evidence

There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of scientific studies showing that cannabinoids like tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD), as well as whole plant formulations, are effective against nearly any disease you can think of

http://www.riseearth.com/2012/05/how-hemp-oil...

“smiling on a cloudy day”

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#16 Feb 15, 2013
Westwood wrote:
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If your friend Mitch and his cronies in Frankfort are for it, it should cause you to be very cautious. Why do you think they are pro hemp? They know there is not a shot in the world of it becoming legal to grow.
Well on the federal level, the bill in the Senate was sponsored by two west coast liberals and Rand Paul. Then Mitch signed on. The sponsors are hardly Mitch's "cronies", and the many Democrats in the Kentucky Senate whose votes were necessary for passage of the state bill are definitely not.

Seems like by having two diametrically opposed sides coming to an agreement to sponsor a bill like this would lead one to believe that it has a good chance of passing on the federal level.

This isn't marijuana we're talking about. It is industrial hemp. A total of 41 varieties of hemp with low levels of THC are certified by the European Union. They have, unlike other types, a very high fiber content of 30-40%. In contrast to cannabis for medical use, varieties grown for fiber and seed have less than 0.2% THC and they are unsuitable for producing hashish and marijuana.
Westwood

London, KY

#17 Feb 16, 2013
Woodstock,
My beachfront property is just outside Wickenburg.

BM,
I didn't mention marijuiania.
Your explanation of the politicians is the reason to be more leery of what they're up to.
gonzo

London, KY

#18 Feb 16, 2013
Bronston Man wrote:
Wow, another good example of some of the sterling politicians we here in Pulaski county choose to represent us. Our state senator, breaking from his party, was one of only six to vote against the bill allowing our state's farmers to grow hemp for industrial uses if and when the federal government allows it.
Sen. Chris Girdler, R-Somerset, said he believes that "growing a Chia Pet would have as much economic impact as growing hemp."
Way to sound smart there Chris.
By the way, it was reported today that Mitch McConnell has signed on as a co-sponsor for similar legislation on the national level.
Sure seems like a lot of Republican support for our small farmers. Why does Chris not stand with his party? The only person in the House crying about this bill is Greg Stumbo. Would Chris rather caucus with the Democrats and their nanny-state?
Chris had to vote the way "daddy hal" instructed him to vote...and did you catch his "boiler plate " speech on the senate floor when opposing the bill?
Tough Love

Somerset, KY

#19 Feb 16, 2013
Iím not sure why you expected anything different from Chris Girdler. Heís Halís man and Hal is opposed to growing hemp in the US for the same reasons that DEA is. It is virtually indistinguishable from marijuana in the field and given Kentuckyís love of illegal drugs would likely turn the state into the pot capital of the nation, as if meth and pills arenít bad enough.

Even though Iíve lived in several hemp producing countries, I knew very little about the industry. So in the last 6 months Iíve done a lot reading, both pros and cons, and have come to the conclusion that hemp is not the sliver bullet that activists say it is. You need to get away from the hemp lover groups and look at the countries that actually produce it before you can appreciate what they have experienced. While itís relatively easy to grow and you can turn it into all sorts of neat products, every hemp growing country has had to heavily subsidize the growing efforts. Also, the market has been primarily self-limiting (particularly in industrialized countries), meaning that despite extensive advertising campaigns that push hemp products, people just arenít buying. Since the lack of interest is so pervasive, I doubt you can blame poor marketing strategies in every country. Quite frankly, we already import hemp yet our own demand for hemp products remains low as well. I donít see that demand changing simply because we start producing it here. If there was evidence that hemp was a self-sustaining crop elsewhere with a growing demand in the market, then perhaps it might be something to take a look at. In other words, what are we going to do here that other countries havenít tried. Based on the hemp industry in other countries, huge government subsidies would eventually be in the cards for us too, and as far as Iím concerned, we already spend far too much on agriculture subsidies. I hate to see this become just one more business/industry that we have to bail out.
gonzo

London, KY

#20 Feb 16, 2013
I would rather subsidize shrimp and catfish farms.....I agree with "tough love" that it is no silver bullet and the main reason that Comer is on it's band wagon is to keep his name on the tongues of the voters until it is time for him to file for
a higher office...can't blame him, that is what all politicians do if they aren't talking about you you can't win.
gomer-ez

Somerset, KY

#21 Feb 16, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
Iím not sure why you expected anything different from Chris Girdler. Heís Halís man and Hal is opposed to growing hemp in the US for the same reasons that DEA is. It is virtually indistinguishable from marijuana in the field and given Kentuckyís love of illegal drugs would likely turn the state into the pot capital of the nation, as if meth and pills arenít bad enough.
Even though Iíve lived in several hemp producing countries, I knew very little about the industry. So in the last 6 months Iíve done a lot reading, both pros and cons, and have come to the conclusion that hemp is not the sliver bullet that activists say it is. You need to get away from the hemp lover groups and look at the countries that actually produce it before you can appreciate what they have experienced. While itís relatively easy to grow and you can turn it into all sorts of neat products, every hemp growing country has had to heavily subsidize the growing efforts. Also, the market has been primarily self-limiting (particularly in industrialized countries), meaning that despite extensive advertising campaigns that push hemp products, people just arenít buying. Since the lack of interest is so pervasive, I doubt you can blame poor marketing strategies in every country. Quite frankly, we already import hemp yet our own demand for hemp products remains low as well. I donít see that demand changing simply because we start producing it here. If there was evidence that hemp was a self-sustaining crop elsewhere with a growing demand in the market, then perhaps it might be something to take a look at. In other words, what are we going to do here that other countries havenít tried. Based on the hemp industry in other countries, huge government subsidies would eventually be in the cards for us too, and as far as Iím concerned, we already spend far too much on agriculture subsidies. I hate to see this become just one more business/industry that we have to bail out.
So how do you compare hemp,and marijuana to meth,and pills?
Maybe the reason these other countries can not make it in the hemp industry,is america and its allies will not allow the sale of hemp products in our countries.If it could be marketed to all countries,it may be profitable.Just a thought.
Using hemp instead of corn for bio-fuels would lower prices for food.Not to mention wood products.Hemp can be used to make many products that we use trees now.Hemp can be resupplied every 4 months. It takes trees years to resupply,with great expenditures to produce and harvest.
The only reason hemp was made illegal ,was because of the wood producing industry,and it was used to by minority groups to seduce white women.That was brought up in the hearings.
We have to look at the big picture.
Jeff

Lancing, TN

#22 Feb 16, 2013
Tough Love wrote:
Iím not sure why you expected anything different from Chris Girdler. Heís Halís man and Hal is opposed to growing hemp in the US for the same reasons that DEA is. It is virtually indistinguishable from marijuana in the field and given Kentuckyís love of illegal drugs would likely turn the state into the pot capital of the nation, as if meth and pills arenít bad enough.
Even though Iíve lived in several hemp producing countries, I knew very little about the industry. So in the last 6 months Iíve done a lot reading, both pros and cons, and have come to the conclusion that hemp is not the sliver bullet that activists say it is. You need to get away from the hemp lover groups and look at the countries that actually produce it before you can appreciate what they have experienced. While itís relatively easy to grow and you can turn it into all sorts of neat products, every hemp growing country has had to heavily subsidize the growing efforts. Also, the market has been primarily self-limiting (particularly in industrialized countries), meaning that despite extensive advertising campaigns that push hemp products, people just arenít buying. Since the lack of interest is so pervasive, I doubt you can blame poor marketing strategies in every country. Quite frankly, we already import hemp yet our own demand for hemp products remains low as well. I donít see that demand changing simply because we start producing it here. If there was evidence that hemp was a self-sustaining crop elsewhere with a growing demand in the market, then perhaps it might be something to take a look at. In other words, what are we going to do here that other countries havenít tried. Based on the hemp industry in other countries, huge government subsidies would eventually be in the cards for us too, and as far as Iím concerned, we already spend far too much on agriculture subsidies. I hate to see this become just one more business/industry that we have to bail out.
I bet you support taking our guns and gay marriage.

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