Watch the Video, Tell me what you all...

Watch the Video, Tell me what you all think?

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“Past Lingers.. In the present.”

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#1 Jan 16, 2013
CTT

London, KY

#2 Jan 16, 2013
Clear thinker wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =VrngdgUixYgXX
What do you think?
Saw this earlier today. If this is true it's a huge cover up and we've already lost this country.

“Past Lingers.. In the present.”

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#4 Jan 17, 2013
Now.. I will state my opinion!
I wanted to just share it so others could see it. I personally found multiple errors in the video after watching it twice, in fact too many to point out. I don't believe a word of it! I think it is a bunch of Gun activist with nothing better to do with their time, but Conspire against the government.
Now, does that mean I trust our government..? NO WAY!! But I also don't trust a bunch of teenage/middle age wanna be film/ video directors that have master the skills of cut and paste, and photo shop.
Dan

London, KY

#5 Jan 17, 2013
Sam Drunker wrote:
The only people who believe that kind of silliness are Alex Jones listeners and small town dimwitts.
Agreed
wowed

Pine Knot, KY

#6 Jan 17, 2013
Very interesting points. My question would be, where is the handcuffed man dressed in camo that was led out of the woods behind the school, who kept repeating, "I didn't do it" to the onlookers?

Why did United Way of Western Ct. put up a website on Google offering condolences and asking for donations for Sandy Hook families three days before the actual shooting? Their response was to blame google for mixing up the date it was posted and no further comment.

Too many unanswered questions for me to make an informed decision, the jury is still out for me and it isn't looking good.

“Past Lingers.. In the present.”

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#7 Jan 17, 2013
Where is My friend (Clearthinker2oo)??

Hey Clear.. Come watch this video!!
Dan

London, KY

#8 Jan 17, 2013
The "man in the woods" was identifed as Chris Manfredonia. And those google dates are notoriously wrong.

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#9 Jan 17, 2013
Dan wrote:
The "man in the woods" was identifed as Chris Manfredonia. And those google dates are notoriously wrong.
Agreed!! AS I stated in post number4, I found so many issues with the video it's self.. it was hard to even know where to begin.

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Corbin Ky.

#10 Jan 17, 2013
Dan wrote:
The "man in the woods" was identifed as Chris Manfredonia. And those google dates are notoriously wrong.
According to some reports, Chris Manfredonia was handcuffed briefly for trying to enter the school to check on his daughter and I have no problem believing that, I would have done the same. I saw the footage as it was first being shot from the helicopter of the police running towards and into the woods, the man was taken down deep in the woods not near any door.

Why would someone wearing camo want to sneak inside a crime scene to check on his child knowing full well that he might be shot? Now all you will be able tell me is that he was distraught and didn't think it through, I don't think so.

Did Google and Facebook both get the dates wrong? Was it fake pages we were shown?

What about the man being held down and handcuffed near the fire station as reported by one of the students on tape?

I don't believe that the whole thing was a hoax, only that the truth about the shooters is being withheld.

Did anyone ever see the window/glass door Lanza shot out to gain entrance?

All I want is the truth and so far nothing fits that for me.
Dan

London, KY

#11 Jan 17, 2013
I don't believe that the whole thing was a hoax, only that the truth about the shooters is being withheld--- Now, you may be on to something there. My problem is with the theorists who believe no shooting occured and no children died!

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Corbin Ky.

#12 Jan 17, 2013
Dan wrote:
I don't believe that the whole thing was a hoax, only that the truth about the shooters is being withheld--- Now, you may be on to something there. My problem is with the theorists who believe no shooting occured and no children died!
I agree even though I do wish it were all a hoax. On the topix forum in Newtown, Ct. and Sandy Hook people are wondering why no locals are posting at all or answering pleas for answers. The Peters address was given on one thread and a plea for someone to go there and report who or what is there, no replies. It is odd to see that and I have been on that forum every day since the shooting. Here are some threads about that from out of town visitors.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/newtown-ct/TP...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/newtown-ct/T5...

“Past Lingers.. In the present.”

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#13 Jan 17, 2013
Okay... I love that we all are able to have a civilized discussion, thus why I posted the video, to get feedback.:-)

IDK... Its all just odd. My best friend has done EXTENSIVE viewing of reports, Multiple sites, ect..(She is the one who convinced me to watch this one I posted) However, she is completely swallowed and convinced it is a government conspiracy in order to carry out what will be considered to be "The New World Order".
(May I suggest, Googling that if you have never heard of it as well. I won't post anything on it because it could scare people, but feel free @ your own risk.) Anyway.. Who knows what the truth is?

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Corbin Ky.

#14 Jan 17, 2013
One thing for sure about the NWO is that the people will have to be disarmed first. Can't have the estimated 310 million weapons in the hands of 80 million gun owners in America.

I would almost believe that Lanza was killed at home along with his mother and his body was brought to the school along with the wrong ID which turned out to be his brother's. No one has found any shooting range where Lanza's mother took him to shoot. If anyone has this info I would love to see it.

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#15 Jan 17, 2013
This article says-"Nancy Lanza loved guns, and often took her sons to one of the shooting ranges here in the suburbs northeast of New York City"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/nyregion/fr...

This article doesnt state the NAME of the range.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mother_mad...

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Corbin Ky.

#16 Jan 17, 2013
Clear thinker wrote:
This article says-"Nancy Lanza loved guns, and often took her sons to one of the shooting ranges here in the suburbs northeast of New York City"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/nyregion/fr...
This article doesnt state the NAME of the range.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mother_mad...
Thanks for the links. I read somewhere that several people had tried to locate the shooting range but had no luck. You would think that with this story being so big that the range where she went would come forth on their own and tell about it, might be good advertising for them.

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Corbin Ky.

#17 Jan 18, 2013
The Aurora, Co. shooting is having problems too. It has very strong ties to the Sandy Hook Adam Lanza fable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Corbin Ky.

#18 Jan 18, 2013

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Harrogate, TN

#19 Jan 18, 2013
I watched the video a couple of times and, at first, it was shocking but the more you look at it the more problems you find. The "assault rifle" in the trunk turned out to be a shotgun which was not used. In fact, if you look closely and know anything about guns, you can clearly tell it is a shotgun on the video. The other part for me, which was shocking, was the father who setup the facebook page for Emily. The video narrator actually makes the claim that the parents set up the page but if you watch the video, there is a paragraph stating that the page was set up by friends, not family. The person producing the video overlaid his own text over the top of that paragraph so you would not read it.

The problem I have with the conspiracy theory is that you have to ask who gains from it? The only person we know is gaining at all is the producer of the video. Since he clearly misled viewers by hiding information, as described above, he is clearly not an honest guy.

With respect to the comments about local people not posting on their topix page, that's not unusual. Topix is used like gangbusters around here but in other places, not nearly as much. Somerset's topix page is used far more than Lexington's, for example.

The Google search results are not accurate for this type of thing. Time stamps on servers can be and are often wrong. The way that Google crawls the web and aggregates data is not nearly as straightforward as you would think and the date may have nothing to do with when the page was created. It is not like you create a page and hit save, then Google stamps a time on it.

Lastly, think about these types of conspiracies. The same people proposing this was a conspiracy are the same that believe 9-11 is a conspiracy. They both have lots of strange details to support their claims. The problem is that they are conspiracies with conflicting goals. I realize they happened under different administrations but the accusation is not that the president planned it out all by himself. The claim is that they are ultra covert operations involving outlandishly technical planning. The problem is, if it is that covert, technical and complex, why on earth would you get so many idiots in front of the camera? That makes less sense than believing that it is real.

“Past Lingers.. In the present.”

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#20 Jan 18, 2013
dionysio wrote:
I watched the video a couple of times and, at first, it was shocking but the more you look at it the more problems you find. The "assault rifle" in the trunk turned out to be a shotgun which was not used. In fact, if you look closely and know anything about guns, you can clearly tell it is a shotgun on the video. The other part for me, which was shocking, was the father who setup the facebook page for Emily. The video narrator actually makes the claim that the parents set up the page but if you watch the video, there is a paragraph stating that the page was set up by friends, not family. The person producing the video overlaid his own text over the top of that paragraph so you would not read it.
The problem I have with the conspiracy theory is that you have to ask who gains from it? The only person we know is gaining at all is the producer of the video. Since he clearly misled viewers by hiding information, as described above, he is clearly not an honest guy.
With respect to the comments about local people not posting on their topix page, that's not unusual. Topix is used like gangbusters around here but in other places, not nearly as much. Somerset's topix page is used far more than Lexington's, for example.
The Google search results are not accurate for this type of thing. Time stamps on servers can be and are often wrong. The way that Google crawls the web and aggregates data is not nearly as straightforward as you would think and the date may have nothing to do with when the page was created. It is not like you create a page and hit save, then Google stamps a time on it.
Lastly, think about these types of conspiracies. The same people proposing this was a conspiracy are the same that believe 9-11 is a conspiracy. They both have lots of strange details to support their claims. The problem is that they are conspiracies with conflicting goals. I realize they happened under different administrations but the accusation is not that the president planned it out all by himself. The claim is that they are ultra covert operations involving outlandishly technical planning. The problem is, if it is that covert, technical and complex, why on earth would you get so many idiots in front of the camera? That makes less sense than believing that it is real.
Very good-dionysio! I happen to agree. i like you was in shock with the video at first...but the more I watched...I too found conflicting issues with it. Granted it takes some time to find them and search them out...but the issues are there. What I actually love about your comment, is that everything YOU pointed out wasnt any thing on my list. So you helped. Now if only I could get my friend on our wave link!:-)
Clear Thinker 2oo

London, KY

#21 Jan 19, 2013
Clear thinker wrote:
Where is My friend (Clearthinker2oo)??
Hey Clear.. Come watch this video!!
Howdy! lol

Saw this earlier today, sounds like we're even being lied to about what kind of gun was used.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-adm...

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