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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 149694 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Help for you

Orlando, FL

#107221 Jun 20, 2013
Shunned wrote:
This is a random post and I apologize up front for my rambling but I'm here seeking opinions that are like/similar to my own. I grew up in church, it was a wonderful place where I was educated about this extraordinary man, Jesus Christ, who performed miracles and saved souls.
However, during that time, as a child, I went through periods of verbal and sexual abuse from relatives and bullying in school from other children. I wondered where the good lord was at when I was dealing with this. I was such an innocent good child at that time who did not deserve the treatment I received but received no help whatsoever from the good lord.
Out of pride and embarrassment, I kept a lot of what happened to me a big secret until nearly a year ago because there were others I felt I needed to protect from a few of these animals. Now the secrets are out and I've been having to deal with them all over again. I've prayed for healing for such a long time but the emotional pain I've felt refuses to go away. And I'm still waiting on the good lord.
The emotional scars dished out to me hindered my confidence build up for years. I've been single all my life. It's torture, it's a living hell. I have managed to have earned a college degree and have been a very dedicated employee with a decent salary but have had to deal with a lot of political ass kissing bullshit.
All this negative stuff has been compounding and I can't shake it off no matter how hard I try. Where's the good lord?
I'm at a point in my life that I'm ready to officially cut ties with all friends and family and only deal with people I only have to deal with. All I ever wanted was status along with the American Dream. But all I have despite my efforts are emotional scars from the verbal/physical abuse. I've done my best to be a good person. I haven't hurt a soul but I have a heart that is crushed. I want this hurt to stop, I never asked for it, I prayed for the good lord's help but still feel void of it.
I should be a happily married soul with children and a good job, but life has flown half way by and part of that equation is empty despite having friends and to some extent, family. Trying to please so many not including myself has cost me a lot of happiness. Shame on me.
I feel absolutely pathetic, I feel as if I was brought into this world to be a whipping post and I hurt so bad for that. Where's the good lord?
I apologize for my yapping but I needed to vent anonymously and found the safe place to do it. I'm at the point where I'm on the verge of cutting out the rest of my family and friends from my life. I'm so tired of hurting. It's a tragedy to think I know what my purpose in the world is only to not have a clue when push comes to shove.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. I appreciate all the comments made both good and bad from those who choose to remark back to me.
Have a good evening.
Go on line to jw.org and click on publications then scroll to the book "What Does The Bible REALLY Teach?" then scroll down to chapter 11 "Why Does God Permit Suffering" There you will find satisfying answers to your questions. If you have MP3 you can listen to it being read.
I hope this helps in your search for answers.
Help for you

Orlando, FL

#107222 Jun 20, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, but the excuses the bible gives for massive suffering do not equate with a powerful god, or a compassionate god.
Their is no need for this person to have suffered the abuse he did, and making excuses of the sort that the suffering was needed is sickening. In a way, you condone the abuse and support the abuser.
This twisted philosophy is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Did you go on line to jw.org and at the top of the page click on publications then scroll down to the book "What Does The Bible REALLY Teach?". Then scroll down to chapter 11 "Why does God Allow Suffering?"If you have MP3 you can listen to it being read. Please do that before you make any blatant statements based on your personal opinion.
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#107223 Jun 20, 2013
Help for you wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you go on line to jw.org and at the top of the page click on publications then scroll down to the book "What Does The Bible REALLY Teach?". Then scroll down to chapter 11 "Why does God Allow Suffering?"If you have MP3 you can listen to it being read. Please do that before you make any blatant statements based on your personal opinion.
Why should one have confidence or believe anything they say in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence.

“There is no god.”

Level 2

Since: Jan 12

USA

#107224 Jun 20, 2013
Go to merriam-webster and type in "delusion". Please do that before you make any blatant statements based on your personal opinion of a god.
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#107225 Jun 20, 2013
Help for you wrote:
<quoted text>
Go on line to jw.org and click on publications then scroll to the book "What Does The Bible REALLY Teach?" then scroll down to chapter 11 "Why Does God Permit Suffering" There you will find satisfying answers to your questions. If you have MP3 you can listen to it being read.
I hope this helps in your search for answers.
Your org. is a joke and you have no right to offer anyone advice!
No help for you

Orlando, FL

#107226 Jun 20, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text> Your org. is a joke and you have no right to offer anyone advice!
By whose authority?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#107227 Jun 20, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text> Your org. is a joke and you have no right to offer anyone advice!
help for you certainly has an arrogant topix name. the notion that there is any excuse for an allpowerfulallgood god to allow suffering should be contradicted by the assertion that the one definition of a god that we know is not correct (as opposed to merely disbelieving in the others) is of an allgoodallpowerful being, that made the rules and made the creation, and has intentions.

the only definition of a god that is correct and describes an existing being or beings, and is big enough to get a capital G, is that God is a name for everything that exists. All other definitions are lesser, and likely also not true - in that most describe supernatural beings, as well as nasty ones, in some respect.
No help for you

Orlando, FL

#107228 Jun 20, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text> Your org. is a joke and you have no right to offer anyone advice!
By whose authority? You must be stuck in a holler somewhere between Pikeville, KY and Grundy, VA and not "stuck in lodi"
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#107229 Jun 20, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
You go on and on about how "bad" it would be to programed to love our "creator."
Tell me what would change if humankind had been created with a built-in desire to worship Yahweh?
What terrible difference would it have made?
Your idea of a "creator" sucks.
good grief, is yes and amen still around bothering people here? hasn't he been through at least one other name in the recent past? or are there two similar rightwing nutcases with similar approaches?

glad to see you always.

maybe the issue is whether we could construct a creator programmed to love us and not hurt us or lead us into danger and pain, or permit us to suffer. even a fictional one like that would be a better thing than the fictional one now promoted by the big three and most other religions. lies about free will are no excuse for a mother letting her child go out into a road and get run over. the same goes for the rotten gods that these crazy types believe in.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#107231 Jun 20, 2013
uuummm wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! You are not forcing anything on topix. Most of your post barely make any sense at all and I usually skip them. I believe I saw one where you used the term 'tard'. I would suggest that you should be ashamed of yourself but I don't think you get the concept.
The title of this thread is "Bible study rules for public schools proposed."
That is what I was referring to. Christians are not content to have the right to worship the way they see fit, they want to make everyone worship the way they see fit. They want to, and have passed laws to force people to do so.
If believing on Christ was all that was necessary then stop trying to force the Government to support your religion. Jesus did not try to force a change in earthly government. Never even suggested it. Follow His example.
your very interesting reply to yaa clearly implies that there are different sorts of self-described christians, including some nicer ones than yaa. Many Christians actually do respect the first amendment. The correct term for those who don't - I suggest - is right-wing religious nutcases who call themselves Christians.

There should be a coalition of decent people who are Christians and who do not try to force their views on others, along with people of other faiths and of no religion. Agnostics, atheists, skeptics, and other free-thinkers, as well as folks of other religions, should be willing to be friendly to Christians of a certain type. The requirements for trusting such Christians would include:

1) respect for separation of church and state
2) not threatening non-Christians with hell
3) not advocating the notion of armageddon being a good thing that we are waiting for with hope
4) not brainwashing children with a belief in a punishing God that sends folks to hell - that includes not brainwashing their own children

hope folks who are on the tolerant side agree with me on this, in general, and any additional requirements and similar suggestions would be welcome. All Christians are not equally harmful, and some can actually be helpful on many matters, when they put a good ethic ahead of theology, and are willing to cooperate with people who disagree with their theology.
Help for you

Orlando, FL

#107232 Jun 20, 2013
Try reading Revelation 21:3,4, Daniel 2:44 Matthew 5:5 and Psalms 37:9,10,11 & 29
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#107233 Jun 20, 2013
No help for you wrote:
<quoted text>
By whose authority?
by my authority and anyone else who has knowledge of that organization! You've yet to explain Why should one have confidence or believe anything they say in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence! Try and get a clue you Dolt!
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#107234 Jun 20, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
When homosexual relationships was introduced in my classroom, it was not in a textbook. They brought in a family unit to talk to us about how they function.
My point about beastiality is that it will be next. I even heard about it on the radio this morning driving to work that some dude wants to marry his goat now. Unfortunately, this wasn't a joke.
No, you are correct, there is no problem when someone objects to an opinion, until they start using their own opinion as if it were fact and proceed to call others names in the process. This is a common theme that presents itself quickly with this poster on almost every thread. It is tiring to see over and over.
did the goat consent? if not, then the goat should be protected from that guy. just as women should be protected from male humans who want to use them.

the issues that matter include consent, safety, and respect for the other being, as well as biological matches that do no harm.

the fixation with bestiality on the part of anti-gay males may be a cover for their wish to have every woman available for them to rape. one wonders.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#107235 Jun 20, 2013
No help for you wrote:
<quoted text>
By whose authority? You must be stuck in a holler somewhere between Pikeville, KY and Grundy, VA and not "stuck in lodi"
I read your link and it is the typical generic dogmatic rhetoric that is as therapeutically useful as a fly fishing guide.

I'll say the same thing to you that I've repeated to Known Fact a dozen times. STOP SPAMMING. Nobody else except JWs have been trying to enlist new members here. Go march with a sandwich board somewhere, preferably in Crime Hills or up and down Paramore.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#107236 Jun 20, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> did the goat consent? if not, then the goat should be protected from that guy. just as women should be protected from male humans who want to use them.
the issues that matter include consent, safety, and respect for the other being, as well as biological matches that do no harm.
the fixation with bestiality on the part of anti-gay males may be a cover for their wish to have every woman available for them to rape. one wonders.
It appears to be related to the OT considering women as "chattel." We've already tried to dissuade him from that notion.
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#107237 Jun 20, 2013
Two Claims of The Watchtower / and or J.W. One that Jesus Christ returned to earth in 1914 and that The Watchtower Society was handpicked by Christ as God’s only channel of communication to man in 1919. LMAO
talk about delusional. This bunch is so crazy, they don't know where they shit last!
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#107238 Jun 20, 2013
break out the tin foil hats folks....the crazies have landed!
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#107239 Jun 20, 2013
They do have one thing right though; JW = NO HELP FOR YOU. lol
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#107240 Jun 20, 2013
Help for you wrote:
Try reading Revelation 21:3,4, Daniel 2:44 Matthew 5:5 and Psalms 37:9,10,11 & 29
If you need a organ someday to prolong your life, thank a scientist. In 20 years or so from now the Watchtower Society will believe in evolution and say that God did it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57589638/...

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#107241 Jun 20, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So because someone is actually into bestiality, you think schools are going to teach it is OK?
You forget the part about animals not being able to consent. Homosexuals are only OK if they are of consent. Rape is rape.

Now I do not think you are stupid for being religious, but you have no excuse for this lack of logic and reasoning.

So are you worried about homosexuality being spoke of in accepting manners in schools, or are you just worried about bestiality?
You never heard of the Eddie's Mississippi leg hound (it's best if you just let him finish Clark)? That could easily be argued as consent by the same twisted minds that want to participate in it.

And no, I do not want public schools teaching children that homosexuality is ok. There is no reason to even touch on the subject to say whether it is ok or not. Leave it to the parents.

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