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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 153738 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94595 Feb 3, 2013
Dear "christianmorals",
Have you tried going to www.jw.org to find answers to your questions?
There is an article on disfellowshipping you may want to examine.
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#94598 Feb 3, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Tennessee has to be in that top 10 also.
Did you read the story of the guy who saw his male dog humping another male dog and didn't want him any more because he thinks the dog is gay?
He took the dog to an animal shelter (fortunately the dog got a new, better home) and now EVERYONE knows how STUPID the former owner is.
http://fox4kc.com/2013/01/31/dog-owner-wanted...
The owner was never socialized correctly..he must of been reading the KJV for instructions. Tennessee is in the top 10 "if you ain't white you ain't right shirt state".
nakanj

Pikeville, KY

#94599 Feb 3, 2013
separation of church and state people! what part of that do you not understand?
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94600 Feb 3, 2013
nakanj wrote:
separation of church and state people! what part of that do you not understand?
ARE YOU A GENUINE CHRISTIAN?
It is vital for each person who claims to be a Christian to answer this question positively. Why? Because God’s approval depends thereon. Christianity is not merely a belief or a label, but a way of life. Does your way of life reflect Christ’s example? Does your religious practice match the Biblical quality of the early Christians?
The apostle Paul invites us:“Put yourselves to the proof, to see whether you are holding the Faith. Test yourselves.”(2 Corinthians 13:5, The Twentieth Century New Testament) To this end, we invite you to check the following short list, while looking up the cited scriptures in your own Bible.
1. Do you participate in national or political loyalties that cause divisions among professed Christians?—1 Corinthians 1:10; John 18:36; James 1:27.
2. How do you define Christian love?—1 Corinthians 13:4-8.
3. Do you, in practice, endeavor to show true neighbor love? How?—Matthew 22:39; John 13:34, 35.
4. Are you kind, tenderly compassionate and forgiving toward others?—Ephesians 4:31; Romans 12:10.
5. In your daily life, do you avoid lying, stealing, cheating and the use of obscene and abusive language?—Ephesians 5:3-5; 4:25-31.
6. Are you inclined to think that sexual morality is of minor importance?—Mark 7:20-23.
7. Do you tend to excesses in eating and drinking?—Proverbs 23:20, 21; Ephesians 5:18.
8. Do you try to communicate true Christian faith to others by word and deed?—Romans 10:9, 10; 1 Corinthians 9:16.
At what conclusion do you arrive? Do true Christians really exist today? Do you know of any who earnestly try to live like Christ and at the same time make a real effort to communicate their Christian belief and way of life to their neighbors? Does your own religion in fact teach and practice genuine Christianity? Or is this just an attractive label or impressive signature?
If you do not already know them personally, we suggest you take a closer look at Jehovah’s Witnesses in your vicinity and see if they are conscientiously endeavoring to measure up to the Bible standards considered above. If you do not know where they are located, we will be glad to help you to get in touch with them.—Isaiah 43:10-12; Acts 11:26.
www.jw.org

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#94601 Feb 3, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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Hey there "christiamorals",
It is good to see someone post from Elkhorn City, KY I am from the Virginia side...between Grundy and Richlands. It is also good to know that your Mother is one of Jehovah's Witnesses (as I am too)I am now retired and live near Orlando, FL.
But I doubt sersiously that you know 'all about the religion'first hand because I feel if you knew ALL about it you would be one too.
You have been mislead by false propaganda about Jehovah's Witnesses promoted by opposed religions. As soon as I saw you accuse Jehovah's Witnesses for making false predictions, I knew where it came from. The end of the Gentile times ended in 1914 as prophesied but not as many things expected did happen, but that does not mean that the end is not coming.
May I ask you does your Mother live in Elkhorn City?
If you prefer to respond other than on a public forum my e-mail address is: [email protected]
I will wait to hear from you.
How do you know the "Gentile times" ended in 1914? And define "Gentile times".

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#94602 Feb 3, 2013
christianmorals wrote:
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also just do a quick search on the witness failed prophecy on here and match up some of the things u find to the actual documents released from over a hundered yrs ago of just how bad they have been at their predictions. i mean im not mean to the JW if they come by, i invite them in and talk as long as they want, but their is nothin short of some hard evidence b4 u can ever get me to believe in it again. but if u wanna do email we can, im always up for meetin ppl that can discuss the toic like adults and not resort to petty insults just becuz they feel butt hurt from my reasoning. who knows, u may convert me or i may convert u, scary thoguht when u think of it that way, see u are already part atheist cuz u dont believe in the other gods, so once u realize the reason for not believin in them is the same reason it takes to not believe in jehovah or jesus then u may see the world differently.
I try not to be mean when they stop by. But I have to be honest. I either just say no and shut the door with a thank you or I ask them to explain why babies suffer and die. Either way the visits are incredibly short.

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#94603 Feb 3, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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"Do they have a book, rules, gold pillared halls and a mantra?"
Yes they do... and they have Priests & Clerics, and B'Levers that pass the collection plates... They will excommunicate blasphemers and (at the moment only metaphorically) burn the writers of blasphemous writings at the stake....
Based on all my experience on this topic what happens is BS is called out and reason tends to prevail over time.

But I'm aware that you feel the evidence is not compelling.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94604 Feb 3, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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How do you know the "Gentile times" ended in 1914? And define "Gentile times".
First we need to know what is reffered to as the "Gentile times" When the started and when they ended. The Bible and secular history verify they started in 607 BCE when Babylon over threw the nation of Israel and would continus for 5,520 years that ended in 1914 AD or (more accurate CE)
Here is a chart showing the length of the "Gentile Times"

2,520 years
October 607 &#9664; B.C.E. C.E. &#9656; October 1914
606 1&#8260;4 years 1,913 3&#8260;4 years
“The appointed times of the nations” began in 607 B.C.E. and ended in 1914 C.E.
If you need more clarification I can do some research and give you a more detailed explanation.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94605 Feb 3, 2013
Sorry for the confusing numbers as aresult of copy and paste'
Here is a clear chart.

2,520 years
October 607 to October 1914 CE
606 1&#8260;4 years plus 1,913 3&#8260;4 years
“The appointed times of the nations” began in 607 B.C.E. and ended in 1914 C.E.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94606 Feb 3, 2013
October 607 B.C.E. to October 1914 2,520 years
606 1&#8260;4 years plus 1,913 3&#8260;4 years
“The appointed times of the nations” began in 607 B.C.E. and ended in 1914 C.E.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94607 Feb 3, 2013
So sorry for the confusing numbers again.
Will try it one more time:

October 607 BCE to 1914 CE is 2,520 years.
606 1/4 years plus 1,913 3/4 years equals 2,520 years.
“The appointed times of the nations” began in 607 B.C.E. and ended in 1914 C.E.

If you need more clarification I can do some research and give you a more detailed explanation.

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#94608 Feb 3, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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First we need to know what is reffered to as the "Gentile times" When the started and when they ended. The Bible and secular history verify they started in 607 BCE when Babylon over threw the nation of Israel and would continus for 5,520 years that ended in 1914 AD or (more accurate CE)
Here is a chart showing the length of the "Gentile Times"
2,520 years
October 607 &#9664; B.C.E. C.E. &#9656; October 1914
606 1&#8260;4 years 1,913 3&#8260;4 years
“The appointed times of the nations” began in 607 B.C.E. and ended in 1914 C.E.
If you need more clarification I can do some research and give you a more detailed explanation.
Who defined it as "Gentile Times"? Is that phrase literally in the Bible?

Also, how are you calculating such a specific number and arriving at 1914?

And what does that even mean?
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94609 Feb 3, 2013
Another way to determine when the Gentile times would end can be found in Jesus' prophecy recorded at Matthew 24:7,8 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
This happened in the fall of 1914 with the outbreak of the gteat war-WWI
2 Timothy 3:1-5 But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

The year 1914 marked the begenning of the "Last Days" as described by 2 Timothy 3:1-5. We have witnesses these very things within this generation from 1914 to date. This also paralles the prophecy recorded at Revelation 12:12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94610 Feb 3, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Who defined it as "Gentile Times"? Is that phrase literally in the Bible?
Also, how are you calculating such a specific number and arriving at 1914?
And what does that even mean?
APPOINTED TIMES OF THE NATIONS
After discussing the destruction due to come upon the city of Jerusalem, Jesus made the statement:“And Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations [“times of the Gentiles,” KJ, RS] are fulfilled.”(Lu 21:24) The period indicated by the expression “appointed times of the nations [Gr., kairoiethnon&#8242;]” has occasioned considerable discussion as to its meaning and implication.
Crooklin

Rancho Cordova, CA

#94611 Feb 3, 2013
Eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses

The Watch Tower Society has admitted its early leaders promoted "incomplete, even inaccurate concepts".[12] The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses says that, unlike Old Testament prophets, its interpretations of the Bible are not inspired or infallible.[13][14][15] Witness publications say that Bible prophecies can be fully understood only after their fulfillment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology_of_J...
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94612 Feb 3, 2013
Beginning of ‘trampling.’
The ‘trampling’ on that kingdom of the dynasty of Davidic rulers began with the Babylonian overthrow of that dynasty in 607 B.C.E. when Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Jerusalem and took captive the dethroned king Zedekiah and the land was left desolate.(2Ki 25:1-26;) This accorded with the prophetic words directed to Zedekiah at Ezekiel 21:25-27, namely:“Remove the turban, and lift off the crown. This will not be the same. . . . A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no one’s until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give it to him.” The one who has “the legal right” to the Davidic crown lost by Zedekiah is demonstrated in the Christian Greek Scriptures to be Christ Jesus, of whom the angel, announcing his future birth, said:“Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.”—Lu 1:32, 33.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94613 Feb 3, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Who defined it as "Gentile Times"? Is that phrase literally in the Bible?
Also, how are you calculating such a specific number and arriving at 1914?
And what does that even mean?
When the Gentile times ended it would mark the time for Jesus to begin his rule. Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ...

When Jesus began to rule in Heaven what is the first thing he was to do? Revelation 12:7-12 And war broke out in heaven: Michael (the resurrected Jesus Christ)and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#94614 Feb 3, 2013
The first thing Satan did when he found himself confined to the vicinity of the earth? He as Revelation 12: says Satan is misleading the entire inhabited earth. So the first thing he did was plunge the earth into World War I. This evidently was to create a distraction so the majority of earth inhabited earth did not recognize that Jesus had began to rule in heaven. All of this parallels in the year 1914.

I hope this has served to help you to understand better the term "Gentile Times" and what happened when they ended in 1914.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#94615 Feb 3, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Based on all my experience on this topic what happens is BS is called out and reason tends to prevail over time.
But I'm aware that you feel the evidence is not compelling.
All the evidence I have seen ( Man Caused Global Warming ) is only compelling to those that have a preconceived Belief in the first place... The main arguments are based on projected models and the Basic singular data that those models are constructed around has been shown to be Wrong (Hockey Stick Data set) and previous models have been shown to be Wrong in almost every case ... Yes... I do not find it compelling....

One of the Claims biggest flaws is it gives little to no weight on Solar component... And second the claim does not provide Evidence of a Global Temp Lagging CO2 ... In fact the evidence more and more seems to show the CO2 Lags Temp rise by about 40 to 60 years...

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94617 Feb 4, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
The first thing Satan did when he found himself confined to the vicinity of the earth? He as Revelation 12: says Satan is misleading the entire inhabited earth. So the first thing he did was plunge the earth into World War I. This evidently was to create a distraction so the majority of earth inhabited earth did not recognize that Jesus had began to rule in heaven. All of this parallels in the year 1914.
I hope this has served to help you to understand better the term "Gentile Times" and what happened when they ended in 1914.
Have you ever considered that all of that is a lie?

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