Somerset Fire Dept
makesnosense

Pineville, KY

#66 Jun 12, 2013
SMH wrote:
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You keep saying they worked to put him in office, the truth is a select few did, and several of them aren't even there now.
No not a select few, at least 80% of them did and they worked hard and gave him money also. You may not think i know what i am talking about cause you are probably new to this game, i seen it with my own eyes, it was not a select few it was the majority of the department. Some are gone but only a few. If they are Lt or higher ranked now, they supported this guy then. The same ones that are griping now, the new guys are the ones that have to deal with this stuff and i feel for them. Everything i am telling you can be found on the CJ archives (2007-2011). Look it up, you will see all the issues with fire dept then and looks like nothing has changed since.
SMH

United States

#67 Jun 12, 2013
Are you a JP supporter, lol?
makesnosense

Pineville, KY

#68 Jun 12, 2013
What these guys aren't telling you also is they ran off good firemen to EMS because they didn't want to become involved in the election, i can think of three full time firemen that had to leave because the other guys (for Girdler at the time)pushed them out. dig into this enough and you will learn this. Its not all the cities fault, they are plenty to blame too. want to move forward do what i suggest dig in make the best out of a bad situation, if its not safe there cause a stink enough to get it safe, but don't expect any extra, cause the council or this mayor isn't going to bend over for fire dept. You can't make the leaders at the fire house down there happy no matter what you do. If this is about the schedule change, not much council can do about that, mayors call.
Volunteer

Florence, KY

#69 Jun 12, 2013
gonzo wrote:
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If things are being done illegally then you are being irresponsible for not reporting to the appropriate authorities. Put the illegal concerns in writing and mail to the ISO,NFPA and in particular OSHA and a copy of your communication to each Somerset City council member, Mayor and I am sure the local paper would publish your concerns. If your accusations and concerns are valid then you are obligated to this, quit bitching about it and do something about it.
Also make sure you tape everything said by this administration if you have a conversation with them. Kentucky is a one consent state.
Megaman

Florence, KY

#70 Jun 12, 2013
makesnosense wrote:
What these guys aren't telling you also is they ran off good firemen to EMS because they didn't want to become involved in the election, i can think of three full time firemen that had to leave because the other guys (for Girdler at the time)pushed them out. dig into this enough and you will learn this. Its not all the cities fault, they are plenty to blame too. want to move forward do what i suggest dig in make the best out of a bad situation, if its not safe there cause a stink enough to get it safe, but don't expect any extra, cause the council or this mayor isn't going to bend over for fire dept. You can't make the leaders at the fire house down there happy no matter what you do. If this is about the schedule change, not much council can do about that, mayors call.
It's also very funny that the fire department has a "acting Chief" and not a real Chief. Does that sound like the police department. It's all about CONTROL.
gonzo

London, KY

#71 Jun 12, 2013
SMH wrote:
Are you a JP supporter, lol?
Good point...
makesnosense

Pineville, KY

#72 Jun 12, 2013
SMH wrote:
Are you a JP supporter, lol?
Between Girdler and Wiles , yes i was. I bet a bunch of firemen wished they were now too. lol
Preach It

Manchester, KY

#74 Jun 13, 2013
So many issues here. First, it appears that the Mayor has failed the City departments, the employees and citizens by not providing appropriate leadership and oversight to most, if not all, agencies. If he had the budget, staffing, and equipment concerns wouldn't be an issue - not to mention moral. Secondly, for those directly involved in this situation, posting on Facebook and Topix in an emotional state doesn't help – it only hurts the cause and the image of the department. Hey, I'm personally rooting for the Fire Department and the employees; I think they are probably working under harsh conditions sent down from the Mayor along with the other City departments. So, please think before posting and articulate posts in a way that doesn't draw the reader's attention to personal feelings but the facts at hand and avoid name calling when it comes to the people who don't agree or have a different perspective. I'm sure there is a good case, if presented to the public properly, which could generate complete public support. However, employees who are posting could be jeopardizing the department's image (especially if all sides aren't represented fairly) as well as their position with the department. Good luck finding a resolution.
somerset man

Pineville, KY

#75 Jun 13, 2013
Preach it, that was a good post excellent, here is another idea, since a lot of the retired firemen, some that have supported this mayor , should get out front on this and help these guys. Call the paper, call a councilmen, go to council meeting and voice their opinion, nothing is stopping them, they are retired and most don't even live in the city anymore. Do what the retired policemen wouldn't do and go support the guys you help train, that's my suggestion. They have absolutely nothing to loose. Some will have to eat crow and admit they were wrong, that's a small price to pay for band of brothers right? So man up retired firemen and do something to help out your brothers.
Ron

Somerset, KY

#76 Jun 13, 2013
Whoever write this knows little of nothing about the Somerset Fire Department. Void of fact. It is so full of misinformation one would think Mayor Girdler wrote it himself!
makesnosense wrote:
This is what i know, they have the best equipment money can buy, they have a great job, all of them make upwards to 35,000 to 40,000 grand a year or more, countless holidays, and vacation, great retirement(20 year), they have massage chairs, big screens, free food, not sure how many volunteers in the county do this all for free, it wouldn't take much to turn the city into a volunteer department, if i am not mistaken they spend about 2,500,000 dollars a year for a budget. Not so sure i would be posting this on a city facebook page. I say this if they are that unhappy with their jobs, then they need to go somewhere else, cause 1000 other volunteers in this county that has just as much training (some have more) would love to have full time fireman job where they work 2 days a week and sleep half of that time. Maybe if SFD were kept busy they would have less to complain about, they need to realize how they got it so good, this mayor has the majority of this council anytime he wants them, all it takes is a vote to dissolve the fire department. I don't think this mayor is one to fool with right now with all the other stuff going on, remember this fireman , a whole of them pushed hard for this mayor to get elected 6 years ago. Maybe next time they go out and campaign for someone they will listen to the truth instead of a bunch of promises. They all gave Wiles such a hard time i bet a lot of the ones that wanted Wiles out wished they had him back now. Need to quit crying and go to work.
makesnosense

Pineville, KY

#77 Jun 13, 2013
Add in the 25 to 30% retirement paid in and all the holidays , sick days, vacations, and free insurance you would easily make this per year and more. Even the new ones, come very close to this. that is a fact and you can't dispute that one bit. If they make 10 bucks a hour 21000 grand plus 4800 for insurance, 24 days sick, 12 holidays and 10 vacation, 3560.00 and the lets just say 20% retirement another 4000 a year for a grand total of 33 grand and some change. That is if you are brand new. Is this enough ? Of course not but this is all part of their salary and better than 50% of the people working in Somerset right now. Would i do it? heck yeah if i was 21 years old again i would suffer thru the low pay for the retirement at age 46. It might suck for them now but in the long run they will be happy they were Somerset Firemen. So yeah i do know a little bit, i think they are made cause of a schedule change. That happens sometimes. Its called having a boss. Even if he is a crappy one.
Grow Up

Chicago, IL

#78 Jun 13, 2013
@makesnosense. You really are clueless. The firefighters aren't even complaining about the pay. Just something else for you all to throw out there and make up about them. The firefighters have a reason to complain and have made contacts to the proper authorities, but will not sit back and listen to this non sense and morons like you talk crap about them while their awaiting a response from those authorities. The fact of the matter is the fire dept does not have the appropriate amount of firefighters or engines to safely fight a fire if need be. This should be a concern to the people in Somerset. Nothing guarantees it won't be your house we respond to and in that case I'm sure you'd want as many trucks and firefighters there as possible. But right now you may get 2 trucks max and 4 firefighters most of the time. Yea 4 firefighters, and according to research and statistics you need a minimum of 6 firefighters to fight a structure fire. That's not going to happen in this town.

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Since: Sep 08

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#79 Jun 14, 2013
Grow Up wrote:
@makesnosense. You really are clueless. The firefighters aren't even complaining about the pay. Just something else for you all to throw out there and make up about them. The firefighters have a reason to complain and have made contacts to the proper authorities, but will not sit back and listen to this non sense and morons like you talk crap about them while their awaiting a response from those authorities. The fact of the matter is the fire dept does not have the appropriate amount of firefighters or engines to safely fight a fire if need be. This should be a concern to the people in Somerset. Nothing guarantees it won't be your house we respond to and in that case I'm sure you'd want as many trucks and firefighters there as possible. But right now you may get 2 trucks max and 4 firefighters most of the time. Yea 4 firefighters, and according to research and statistics you need a minimum of 6 firefighters to fight a structure fire. That's not going to happen in this town.
To the last two sentences , really , really ?- I have the faith that if the call went out , there's at least 60 - 70 certified firefighters that would answer that call , even tho 90% of them would be volunteers -Maybe only 4-6 of them would be paid , but those volunteers would step up -

“....VETS”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

WELCOME HOME

#80 Jun 14, 2013
sounds like someone was reject from the Fire Dept.
makesnosense

Pineville, KY

#81 Jun 14, 2013
Not a reject from fire department, just know a little how it works down there, has anyone every heard the term you can't beat city hall? This will apply here. Good luck hope you guys get 20 more firemen and 4 new trucks and 40 grand a year in raises.
ToCanSam

London, KY

#82 Jun 14, 2013
What about all the other departments in the City that make do we what they have, the Police and Fire are not the only departments in the City that run short handed or may not have the best equipment, but it seems these other departments go on and do their jobs with what they have, put some of these guys out in the field in 100 degree weather or outside during winter conditions and they will see just how good they have it, I see these other department out daily working, so they are making do with what they all and all departments should do so or give their job to someone who would be glad to have a job.
PC FF

Lexington, KY

#83 Jun 14, 2013
Yes comparing the Fire Dept to the other departments make sense. No they dont have to work every day in the 100 degree heat or outside in the winter conditions, but they do have to be out at 3am going into a structure fire which is 1000+ degrees or they have to cut someone out of a vehicle when its pouring the rain or snowing. As for the volunteers im sure they have plenty but those people have jobs and arent guaranteed to be there. Pulaski County has one of the best group of volunteers and fire dept. system around but we cant always be there. Somerset needs the manpower there and paid 24/7.

Level 2

Since: Oct 12

Somerset, KY

#84 Jun 14, 2013
WELL said there Phillip! As a former volunteer fireman at Science Hill, I can tell you most people don't realize the training hours our firemen spend! ALONG with maintaining the equipment, etc! I TRULY appreciate all our paid/volunteer fire fighters here in Pulaski Co!
Phillip Rogers wrote:
I am a Firefighter EMT that proudly works at Somerset Fire Dept. I don't normally get on topix because lots of the time people don't really seem to know that facts about what they are talking about. However this subject was brought to my attention and I happen to have the inside scoop, lol. So if any citizen would like to learn more about the fire dept and what we have and what we do I am inviting you to come to the station tomorrow! I will be working 24hrs starting at 7am and we give tours all the time to kids and adults alike! If you can make it tomorrow any day is a great day to meet the firefighters and take a tour. I am directing this post to to (makesnosence) but all are welcome at the fire dept! I never understood why people don't put their real names on what they post, with that being said I encourage everyone to remember (makesnosence) in prayer tonight. I will also ask for prayer for the Somerset Fire Dept including myself ! Thankful to be serving my community and I hope to meet you soon!
Somerset Fire Dept
121 S Central Ave
Somerset, Ky 42501
NeedNewMayor

Columbus, IN

#85 Jun 14, 2013
60-70 volunteers? That's funny. Somerset fire only has 3 or 4 volunteers. But rest assure Fire and EMS will prevail. Guys and girls keep your heads held high. We will get the last laugh.
Uh-Oh

Mount Vernon, KY

#86 Jun 14, 2013
Grow Up wrote:
@makesnosense. You really are clueless.---...but will not sit back and listen to this non sense and morons like you talk crap about them while their awaiting a response from those authorities....
Nice. With every post like this public support drops off. Why would the taxpayers want their Fire Department staffed with employees who call them names in a public forum?! Yeah, it is anonymous but you identified yourself as "we" in the post, which tagged you as an employee. At least get someone with some scruples and professionalism to represent the employees or the citizens will soon get tired of these rants and overlook whatever issues you need support for.

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