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bobbi

Pineville, KY

#1 Jan 14, 2013
do you think the city council represent the people who vote in somerset or rely on their own personal opinion or belief to vote on issues. the citizens pay for the chair the councilpeople sit in to represent them, the constituents. yet, some feel their opinion is more important. I have many opinions, but, if I were a representative and receive payment from tax to represent folks, my opinion is only valid if the majority agrees with me. ultimately, why serve the citizens if you do not listen to and serve them?
Hmmm

United States

#2 Jan 15, 2013
bobbi wrote:
do you think the city council represent the people who vote in somerset or rely on their own personal opinion or belief to vote on issues. the citizens pay for the chair the councilpeople sit in to represent them, the constituents. yet, some feel their opinion is more important. I have many opinions, but, if I were a representative and receive payment from tax to represent folks, my opinion is only valid if the majority agrees with me. ultimately, why serve the citizens if you do not listen to and serve them?
The citizens actually vote for them so undoubtedly the majority of the voters in the council persons districts must like their opinion.

55%+ in Somerset are on some sort of public assistance. I'm thankful they don't represent that view or we'd all be home sitting on our butts.

“Statism is slavery”

Since: Jan 13

Somerset, KY

#3 Jan 17, 2013
The problem is with the voters who do NOT do research behind their candidates, research in economics, or research in their candidate's record. If they did, we would have a different city council and county government.

Don't blame the politicians who are elected, but blame the people who are willfully ignorant because it's the path of least resistance.
crazy

Middlesboro, KY

#4 Jan 18, 2013
There is not one of them that could tell you how much the city is in debt this very minute, not one! Watch the council meeting on tv, most of them open their information right there, that means they don't even take the time to look at it. They basically go with the mayor on anything he wants.

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#5 Jan 18, 2013
I thunk that every property owner , in the city limits , should serve at least one term on the council - Let the rest of them campaign , but reserve one seat for this purpose - Let the name be drawn from the property tax rolls , at random -

“Statism is slavery”

Since: Jan 13

Somerset, KY

#6 Jan 18, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
I thunk that every property owner , in the city limits , should serve at least one term on the council - Let the rest of them campaign , but reserve one seat for this purpose - Let the name be drawn from the property tax rolls , at random -
It's bad enough we have elected officials who violate our rights, but having a mandatory public service? Eeesh.

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#8 Jan 19, 2013
KennyKelly3 wrote:
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It's bad enough we have elected officials who violate our rights, but having a mandatory public service? Eeesh.
Didn't say mandatory - They could decline the seat -

“Statism is slavery”

Since: Jan 13

Somerset, KY

#9 Jan 19, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't say mandatory - They could decline the seat -
That's good. But I'd settle for abolishing the council. lol! Or at least consolidating it with the county.

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#10 Jan 19, 2013
KennyKelly3 wrote:
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That's good. But I'd settle for abolishing the council. lol! Or at least consolidating it with the county.
Metro is definitely in our future - Fayette Co. is a good example -(you kin to a book keeper ?)-
Starbrite

London, KY

#11 Jan 19, 2013
Council is not the problem. If you remember the city council filed suit against the dictator mayor Eddie Girdler.

Unfortunately the council only have legislative powers on ordinances and a final budget. The mayor has administrative and operational jobs of the city.

The council members have thrown up their hands with the current mayor and given up. I don't really blame them. I would go to the house.
Westwood

Somerset, KY

#12 Jan 19, 2013
What is the smallest (population) county in Kentucky with a metro government? Are there any as small as Pulaski?

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Since: Mar 12

Hopkinsville, KY

#13 Jan 19, 2013
Westwood wrote:
What is the smallest (population) county in Kentucky with a metro government? Are there any as small as Pulaski?
I don't think there are any other than Lexington-Fayette and Louisville-Jefferson. Bowling Green is the 3rd largest city, technically speaking, and it has not merged with Warren County. However, Pulaski County's population is not that small. It was 14th in population in the 2010 census and has probably passed Pike County and McCracken by now to 12th since Pike County has been losing population for decades and McCracken County has not been growing. That puts it in the top 10% of counties in KY. Now that the lake is most likely coming back up this summer and businesses are going up like crazy, we can only expect it to keep climbing.

I think the challenge would be that Pulaski is geographically an enormous county. It's not like Fayette County which is less than half the size with a larger population consolidated into a single city. Personally, I would like to see it happen because the county and city are not on the same page most of the time. However, convincing the other cities in PC to go for it may be a hard sell. Eventually, it will probably happen, but it may be a few decades away.

“Statism is slavery”

Since: Jan 13

Somerset, KY

#14 Jan 20, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
<quoted text>Metro is definitely in our future - Fayette Co. is a good example -(you kin to a book keeper ?)-
We'll need consolidation if we expect to be taken seriously. Although seeing how our locals vote (purely by party and kin) that may not happen anytime soon. lol!

Yeah, kin to a few of them. lol!

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#15 Jan 20, 2013
KennyKelly3 wrote:
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We'll need consolidation if we expect to be taken seriously. Although seeing how our locals vote (purely by party and kin) that may not happen anytime soon. lol!
Yeah, kin to a few of them. lol!
Good folks -
Starbrite

London, KY

#16 Jan 20, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
<quoted text>Metro is definitely in our future - Fayette Co. is a good example -(you kin to a book keeper ?)-
Then do you agree EMS and Somerset Fire should be merged into on agency? Sure would save a lot of taxpayers money.
bobbi

Pineville, KY

#17 Jan 22, 2013
Knowitall9 wrote:
I thunk that every property owner , in the city limits , should serve at least one term on the council - Let the rest of them campaign , but reserve one seat for this purpose - Let the name be drawn from the property tax rolls , at random -
i love this idea. someone who runs a business, raises a family or has common sense and will still represent the citizens.
bobbi

Pineville, KY

#18 Jan 22, 2013
KennyKelly3 wrote:
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That's good. But I'd settle for abolishing the council. lol! Or at least consolidating it with the county.
the county cant handle it but merged government would serve us better.
bobbi

Pineville, KY

#19 Jan 22, 2013
Starbrite wrote:
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Then do you agree EMS and Somerset Fire should be merged into on agency? Sure would save a lot of taxpayers money.
actually , all ive read and studied has shown that the separation has saved both county and city alot of money. however, if we were to merge into a metro govt. it would save even more. but in this era of outdated cronyism govt. that probably wont happen for awhile.
Taxpayers unite

Sheridan, AR

#20 Jan 23, 2013
bobbi wrote:
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actually , all ive read and studied has shown that the separation has saved both county and city alot of money. however, if we were to merge into a metro govt. it would save even more. but in this era of outdated cronyism govt. that probably wont happen for awhile.
I would like to see your references concerning how your study shows the separation of Somerset Fire and Somerset/Pulaski EMS has saved money for taxpayers.

Looking at both budgets for 2012/2013 there is no way you could not save money in the terrible duplication of money. Any business person should see this. Thank you.
Paul Revere

London, KY

#21 Jan 24, 2013
We will not see a Lexington/Fayette County-style unified government anytime soon. You're talking about implementing zoning county-wide in the 3rd largest (geographically) county in the state.
Voter support for such a move isn't there and won't be for decades if ever. When county voters got a whiff of all the new regulations they would fall under in such a government, any support there was would quickly evaporate.
And then the cost of creating utility infrastructure for every hollar and backroad in Pulaski would be astronomical. There are areas barely outside the current city limits right now that are "off-limits" to annexation simply due to drainage and utility costs associated with bringing them into the city. Where does the funding for such expansion come from?
And of course with a larger, expanded police and fire force comes the unions. That translates into higher wages and increased pensions plans. That's part of the reason you haven't seen the City actively persuing a step up in Class status.
Finally, if metro/urban-county government is the "way of the future", why isn't it being implemented everywhere? Aside from the largest metro areas in the state, there doesn't seem to be a mad to this type government.

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