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#82 Oct 30, 2012
I just got to thunkin' - Elaine Wilson would not take part in any underhanded dealin's - Paul was a class act , a true Brother , and she's a real lady - No offense toward friend Barb Sanders - It'll have to happen without me -
okkay

Brodhead, KY

#83 Oct 30, 2012
avid reader wrote:
I don't care if the library closes. I have seen such waste of money in the old library and in the new one.
At the old library, many times you couldn't get anyone to assist you because they were too busy standing around gossiping. They acted like you were bothering them when you went to the desk to check books out. I was there often and never saw what I would call a crowd there!
Many people feel there wasn't a need for the new library. There was contstant complains about lack of parking, yet they let some of their friends in businesses across the street part there as long as they wanted to.
I think it is a waste of our tax money.
get a clue and a brain, you my friend need the gift of knowledge, READ A BOOK!!!! LOL

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#84 Oct 30, 2012
Knowitall9 wrote:
I just got to thunkin'- Elaine Wilson would not take part in any underhanded dealin's - Paul was a class act , a true Brother , and she's a real lady - No offense toward friend Barb Sanders - It'll have to happen without me -
Relunctantly used proper namess - Sorry iffen it gets deleted -
gonzo

London, KY

#85 Oct 31, 2012
Political aspirations behind the petition , not a concern about taxes and mismanagement...I believe!
In The Know

Somerset, KY

#86 Oct 31, 2012
Seems like no one is giving proper notice or acknowledgement to the fact that the money owed .... about $11 Mil??..... is not just for the main branch of the library on South Main St. They did build 2 (or maybe 3) new branch library buildings. One is at Shopville and a new one at Burnside. Maybe another north of Somerset????

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

United States

#87 Oct 31, 2012
In The Know wrote:
Seems like no one is giving proper notice or acknowledgement to the fact that the money owed .... about $11 Mil??..... is not just for the main branch of the library on South Main St. They did build 2 (or maybe 3) new branch library buildings. One is at Shopville and a new one at Burnside. Maybe another north of Somerset????
This has been mentioned several times. The Burnside branch was paid with a state grant and is not part of the debt. I'm not sure about the Shopville branch. Again,$11 million is a relative number. For the county population it is at the low end of the spectrum for library expenditures per capita. To put it in perspective, it's about what the city budget of Somerset spends in 40 days. It's only big when you think of it relative to the amount of money you deal with, or I deal with for that matter.
gonzo

London, KY

#88 Nov 1, 2012
dionysio wrote:
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This has been mentioned several times. The Burnside branch was paid with a state grant and is not part of the debt. I'm not sure about the Shopville branch. Again,$11 million is a relative number. For the county population it is at the low end of the spectrum for library expenditures per capita. To put it in perspective, it's about what the city budget of Somerset spends in 40 days. It's only big when you think of it relative to the amount of money you deal with, or I deal with for that matter.
What the city budget of Somerset spends in 40 days.....Please explain or did you mistype....
teapayer

Antioch, IL

#89 Nov 1, 2012
I signed it. My wife signed it. My parents both signed. Grandmother will sign tomorrow.

5 signatures against spending tax dollars on Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens.

Buy your own books.

We could give everyone below a certain income level amazon gift cards to order books and put several million in the bank.

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

United States

#90 Nov 1, 2012
gonzo wrote:
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What the city budget of Somerset spends in 40 days.....Please explain or did you mistype....
The budget for the city of Somerset is around $77 million per year so that's what the city spends in 51 days. I should have ran it through a calculator first. I knew it was less than 2 months but more than one.

http://www.cityofsomerset.com/somerset/servic...

Level 5

Since: Mar 12

United States

#91 Nov 1, 2012
teapayer wrote:
I signed it. My wife signed it. My parents both signed. Grandmother will sign tomorrow.
5 signatures against spending tax dollars on Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens.
Buy your own books.
We could give everyone below a certain income level amazon gift cards to order books and put several million in the bank.
Dude, you will be paying the tax no matter what according to everyone involved including the petitioners. You will pay the debt as long as you live in Pulaski County. There is no scenario in which you will not pay it. When the city or county saves the library, you will be paying the legal fees for doing that too. There's no magic by which you will avoid it.
yoyoyo

London, KY

#92 Nov 1, 2012
dionysio wrote:
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Dude, you will be paying the tax no matter what according to everyone involved including the petitioners. You will pay the debt as long as you live in Pulaski County. There is no scenario in which you will not pay it. When the city or county saves the library, you will be paying the legal fees for doing that too. There's no magic by which you will avoid it.
Why couldn't they file bankruptcy?
Is that because government entities can't file and the government just keeps funneling money into the problem?
Common Sense

London, KY

#93 Nov 1, 2012
yoyoyo wrote:
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Why couldn't they file bankruptcy?
Is that because government entities can't file and the government just keeps funneling money into the problem?
Doesn't work that way.

When it was built with bond money authorized by the taxpayers, it stays in place until it is paid off.

John Adams wrote a very explanatory letter to the editor in Tuesday's Commonwealth Journal.

He has nothing to do with the library but explained the laws in regard to how this would all go down.

Everyone interested in this issue should take the time to read it.
yoyoyo

London, KY

#94 Nov 1, 2012
Common Sense wrote:
<quoted text>
John Adams wrote a very explanatory letter to the editor in Tuesday's Commonwealth Journal.
He has nothing to do with the library but explained the laws in regard to how this would all go down.
Everyone interested in this issue should take the time to read it.
I remember seeing somewhere that the letters to the editors had a limit on the number of words they would print. This article violated that rule. I've never seen one that lengthy before and contains a huge amount of rambling. It was written by an attorney so what could we expect?
teapayer

Chicago Heights, IL

#95 Nov 1, 2012
well, the 5 signors I have rallied will turn into 10 or 15 before this is over.

We only need 1 out of 10 people right? Should be easy? How much can we get for the libraries contents at auction?

1 Million dollars would buy 100,000 books from Amazon at $10. That's 10 books each for 10,000 people in the county. Helps the economy too.
ITGuy

London, KY

#96 Nov 1, 2012
What's in the library that I can't get from the internet?
NO TAXES EVER

Somerset, KY

#97 Nov 1, 2012
I think we should abolish the police. I've never had need of their services. And the roads around here seem just fine, why are we paying for highway construction? And do we really need an ambulance service to be on standby all the time? Surely people could find someone to take them to the hospital should they really need to go. And I'm not at all sure anyone ever really needs a hospital anyway, I know I never have. Why am I paying tax dollars for things like this? Oh, and schools, I've already got my education, so why should I have to pay taxes for schools?

Seriously people, abolish EVERY SINGLE TAX! It's all been one huge mistake! Our nation is obviously the worst in the world. Bottom of the list. We suck. We don't need anything. EVER!

Now, tea anyone?

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Since: Sep 08

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#98 Nov 1, 2012
yoyoyo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why couldn't they file bankruptcy?
Is that because government entities can't file and the government just keeps funneling money into the problem?
Bankruptcy ??- The library ain't close to being broke - They got money - No probs paying the bills - This proposed tax increase is only about future raises and benefits - Nothing else - Nothing else - If the raise issue hadn't been mentioned , there wouldn't be any need for any discussions - The library is (minimally) solvent - That's to be expected , considering the overall economy - To an individual , this proposedd raise ain't a drop of pee in their throne - It's all about raises - DONE -

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Since: Mar 12

Somerset, KY

#99 Nov 1, 2012
ITGuy wrote:
What's in the library that I can't get from the internet?
That's a good one, a tough one, but I will take a shot. Meeting space for a quilting club? Display space for historical items important to the community? Meeting spaces for book clubs, genealogy clubs or any other type of club? Large community rooms for big events for say, when the National Orchestra comes through town? How about hundreds of computers with free access to high speed internet for anyone to use? Access to real, breathing children's literature experts? A space for your children to go and explore a garden space with a wide variety of plants and sculptures? Summer cultural events for children?

Listen, I know what you were thinking, all sarcasm aside, but we all have tablets and ebooks. The day the first iPad came out, I reserved it, got it, took 3,000 physical books and sold them to a used bookstore. We all know about the internet, Amazon, Audible, Project Gutenberg, etc. You couldn't walk outside and throw a rock without breaking an iPad or Kindle Fire here. The content though, is not all that the library is to the community, not by a long shot. It is an integral part of the culture of a community and its employees and volunteers play an invaluable role in the community by going to schools, reading to children, encouraging literacy with programs such as Summer Reading and the Literacy Bell. Without the library, you just have books.
Wrong

United States

#100 Nov 1, 2012
dionysio wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a good one, a tough one, but I will take a shot. Meeting space for a quilting club? Display space for historical items important to the community? Meeting spaces for book clubs, genealogy clubs or any other type of club? Large community rooms for big events for say, when the National Orchestra comes through town? How about hundreds of computers with free access to high speed internet for anyone to use? Access to real, breathing children's literature experts? A space for your children to go and explore a garden space with a wide variety of plants and sculptures? Summer cultural events for children?
Listen, I know what you were thinking, all sarcasm aside, but we all have tablets and ebooks. The day the first iPad came out, I reserved it, got it, took 3,000 physical books and sold them to a used bookstore. We all know about the internet, Amazon, Audible, Project Gutenberg, etc. You couldn't walk outside and throw a rock without breaking an iPad or Kindle Fire here. The content though, is not all that the library is to the community, not by a long shot. It is an integral part of the culture of a community and its employees and volunteers play an invaluable role in the community by going to schools, reading to children, encouraging literacy with programs such as Summer Reading and the Literacy Bell. Without the library, you just have books.
Culture? Like the moonshine still that was in the hallway? There is no real "culture" in the library. Unless you consider a modern architectural facade of prefabbed faux components, put together in an attempt to capture a style from the past and minimize costs, the representation of Somerset culture.

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#101 Nov 1, 2012
Knowitall9 wrote:
<quoted text>Bankruptcy ??- The library ain't close to being broke - They got money - No probs paying the bills - This proposed tax increase is only about future raises and benefits - Nothing else - Nothing else - If the raise issue hadn't been mentioned , there wouldn't be any need for any discussions - The library is (minimally) solvent - That's to be expected , considering the overall economy - To an individual , this proposedd raise ain't a drop of pee in their throne - It's all about raises - DONE -
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