Petition by Barbra Sanders

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Since: Sep 08

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#220 Nov 16, 2012
Dang it , Ms. Wilson should stay - This is gettin' so stupid , I thunk I need a Midol -
NoProof

Clarkson, KY

#221 Nov 16, 2012
The petition group has not been able to show one single example of the board or any employee stealing money. Every record the Library has is public and can be seen by any person that wants a look. No funds have went inside someone's pocket, no shadey back-door deals have been hashed out on the part of the Library.

This foolishness needs to stop, the Library is nothing more than a pawn in an ignorant political game. The petition group could care less if it closes, they have made that very clear. If your name is on it, get it off... if someone asks you to sign a petition with any-thing to do with the Library: decline. There is no counter petition, there is no petition to help the Library.
Dirt Guy

Somerset, KY

#222 Nov 16, 2012
After the library closes, maybe Ms. Sanders can try to do away with the Health Department and the Extension Service. They are both special taxing districts, too.
Watcher

Mount Vernon, KY

#226 Nov 18, 2012
Cool Hand Clem wrote:
The library represents your culture.Never let anyone take that away.
and you tax dollars be proud stand tall.
Paul Revere

London, KY

#229 Nov 19, 2012
I've heard the commercials on the radio, seen the signs in people's yards and bumper stickers on vehicles campaigning to "stop the petition". Who is paying for all these printed materials and advertising???
Book lover

Brownsville, TN

#230 Nov 19, 2012
Paul Revere wrote:
I've heard the commercials on the radio, seen the signs in people's yards and bumper stickers on vehicles campaigning to "stop the petition". Who is paying for all these printed materials and advertising???
I believe a local printer (New Horizons, I think) donated a number of signs and bumper stickers. Additional ones were available for a small fee from them.
A Library Patron

Versailles, KY

#231 Nov 19, 2012
Somerset has one of the finest libraries I have ever been in. The staff is very friendly and helpful and the library has great books and materials to check out for free. The only petition going around will be one that will close the library so if you want to keep the libraries in Pulaski County open, do NOT sign the petition!
Paul Revere

London, KY

#232 Nov 19, 2012
Book lover wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe a local printer (New Horizons, I think) donated a number of signs and bumper stickers. Additional ones were available for a small fee from them.
I just heard the radio commercial again this afternoon and near the end it said it was paid for by the "Library Foundation". Whatever that is. Maybe that foundation is also paying for the Board's attorney?
KYconcernedCitiz en

United States

#234 Nov 19, 2012
Here are some facts, you can disagree but it won't change anything:

1. The Constitution of the Commonwealth requires that the bonds be paid off, there is no way the library can default.

2. The tax cannot be eliminated until the bonds are paid off, that is the law.

3. If the petition passes the library will close. This is what happened in Taylor County in 1982(?)- the court gave them a date to close by and made them sell resources to pay debt. This is not a guess, it happened.

4. Since the district owns the material possessions of the district, the buildings, furnishings and books may be sold to the highest bidder to pay off the debt. They certainly will not be sold for the full amount of the debt, leaving a balance which must be paid by the tax.

5. I would be willing to bet that no commercial interest would come in to operate a library for the county when there are no buildings or other resources - this is a pipe dream. The takeover TeaPayer keeps referring to had buildings and books for the commercial interest to move into, an entirely different situation.

6. No new district can be created until the old one ceases, and that can't happen until the debt is paid off.

7. This petition is a colossal waste of taxpayer money under the guise of saving each resident about $1 a year. All the debt would still need to be paid, we would be left without library service or facilities - in other words, this "tax revolt" will cost us about $10,000,000 and leave us with NOTHING to show for it.

Barb, once again I say shame on you and the gang that supports this shoddy effort to get you elected county judge executive. A real fiscal conservative would want NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SHAM!
Sammy

Somerset, KY

#235 Nov 19, 2012
I would love to sign this petition. Can anyone tell me where it is?
Tuffy Are you?

Hobart, IN

#236 Nov 19, 2012
Tough Love:

Still not convinced your not Darrel Beshears. Would you pronounce the word "library" and "fiscal"?
Paul Revere Pays

Hobart, IN

#237 Nov 19, 2012
Paul Revere wrote:
I've heard the commercials on the radio, seen the signs in people's yards and bumper stickers on vehicles campaigning to "stop the petition". Who is paying for all these printed materials and advertising???
Paul:

The library foundation is a front for a vast liberal conspiracy which has access your, and people who have attitudes like you, bank accounts, credit cards, and utility accounts. Notice your bank account is off a few dollars each month, notice the unknown charges on your credit cards, or additional charges on your utilities, it all goes to the library foundation. When you and your friends go to certain gas pumps you are charged extra. Not only is it tax free, state and federal income taxes are used to match any funds dollar for dollar they have pilfered from you. Sorry for the bad news. The library's lawyer is paid 3 time his or her normal rate with your money just to spite you. But, luckily you get all your information from topix so now at least you know the gig. The solution is to vote Obama out, oh sorry that did not work for you did it?

Now, If any one tells you that there is a private charitable foundation which generous people voluntarily give money to support the mission of the library or advance the library, it's just a front or cover for the conspiracy against you.

"Scotty beam me up, there is no intelligent life down here."
taylorswifty

Somerset, KY

#238 Nov 19, 2012
Sammy wrote:
I would love to sign this petition. Can anyone tell me where it is?
no taxpayer money is paying for petition drive. where u get that misinformation? see state auditor's website for info on special taxing districts or see Nov. 15 Herald Leader. I am amazed at the ignorance I have seen over this.
Tough Love

Somerset, KY

#239 Nov 20, 2012
My husband and I would both sign the petition if asked, but unfortunately neither of us has been approached. If this initiative fails, it will be because of poor organization, not because of the merits of the cause.
Tough Love

Somerset, KY

#240 Nov 20, 2012
The KY State Auditor described the Special Taxing District system as "broken." And when something is broken, you do your best to fix it. Given the amount of attention this is getting on the state level, I'm hopeful this issue will be resolved in Frankfort during the coming session.

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/11/14/2407554/re...
Grunt

Versailles, KY

#241 Nov 20, 2012
The State Auditor also stated that the way the Library special taxing districts are set up is a model all others should go by.
Tough Love

Somerset, KY

#242 Nov 20, 2012
Grunt wrote:
The State Auditor also stated that the way the Library special taxing districts are set up is a model all others should go by.
One of the biggest issues at play is that it only takes a very small percentage of voters to establish or abolish a special taxing district. Quite frankly, I'd never heard of a special taxing district until I moved to Somerset several years ago. In other places I've lived, if the community wanted to build a new library, school or government building, they proposed a bond initiative that required the approval of the electorate. I would like to see the whole special taxing system abolished. They idea of giving any branch of government a blank check runs counter to one of the most important foundations of this country -- no taxing without electorate representation.

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Since: Sep 08

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#243 Nov 20, 2012
Cooler , calmer brains will prevail -

“EvIL GeNiUs ”

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Since: Jul 08

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#244 Nov 20, 2012
Seems the Huffington Post has gotten wind of our little petition pushers and now 500 plus people have decided to make us look like absurd idiots..comments such as"we ain't need a book iffn we ain't got shoes" to one of my faves "y fur we need to red we have meth for intertainment" thanks BARBARA tons:)
DirtGuy

London, KY

#245 Nov 20, 2012
ohsoyummy wrote:
Seems the Huffington Post has gotten wind of our little petition pushers and now 500 plus people have decided to make us look like absurd idiots..comments such as"we ain't need a book iffn we ain't got shoes" to one of my faves "y fur we need to red we have meth for intertainment" thanks BARBARA tons:)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/pula...

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