Will the Internet Kill Religion?

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#21 Jan 26, 2013
BigDaddyandGang wrote:
I'll stick with my belief in GOD.
The USA still beleives and still print money that States, "IN GOD WE TRUST"
Enough said!
Which one? There are many deities referred to as "God".

Imagine if it said, "In Car we trust." Would you just assume it was talking about your car?
TOK

Brownsville, TN

#22 Jan 26, 2013
The Internet will absolutely help to reduce the number of religious people. Like somebody said earlier, the Internet allows information to spread faster than has ever been possible. And if you don't just go online for Topix, or Facebook, you'll find there's quite a bit of information out there to be had. You can learn anything about anything on the Internet.

I still don't understand how people don't just realize it's all a bunch of BS. Just sit and really think about it for five minutes. People believe a book, that claims man was created from dirt, then the "all powerful creator" needed a rib from the man to make the woman. The woman then was convinced by a talking snake to eat a magic apple, and suddenly, she realized she was naked, and it was bad.

She later had sex with the man she came from, and those two were the start of the human race. Everything was fine and dandy for a while, then God decides to fuck shit up, so he tells Moses to collect 2 of every animal and take them on the giant ship he will build. It then rained for 40 days and 40 nights.

Tell me, what did those animals eat? Did they bring extras of some to allow carnivorous animals to eat? How did this old guy and his family round up two of EVERY animal?

The class of animals that Humans belong to, the mammals, includes close to 5,000 species. The number of birds is over 15,000. There are more than 3,000 kinds of snakes, and 300 kinds of turtles.

The mollusk family, which includes sea animals like the clam, has more than 100,000 members, while the lobster and crab family has over 20,000. There are some 15,000 species of protozoans, or one-celled animals, but the record for the number of different species is held by insects, with well over 750,000.

The best estimate is that there are at least three million different kinds of animals on earth.

And you're telling me that some old guy and his family got two of each of them?

That right there should be enough to make you think, "Hmm, maybe that's not true." But hey, if that's not true, what else isn't true?

Like fuck, I don't understand. How can you be that stupid to believe that?
motto

Oneida, TN

#23 Jan 26, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Which one? There are many deities referred to as "God".
Imagine if it said, "In Car we trust." Would you just assume it was talking about your car?
Hey moron, the god its referring to on our money is the god of christianity, get a clue and stop trying to act all knowing.
motto

Oneida, TN

#24 Jan 26, 2013
Hey TOK, It was "Noah" Moron!

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#25 Jan 26, 2013
motto wrote:
Hey moron, the god its referring to on our money is the god of christianity, get a clue and stop trying to act all knowing.
There are a lot of gods in Christian myth.

None of them are named "God". Believers of various faiths call their deity "God", including many Deists.

If your deity was real, don't you think it would be upset that you call it by the same name as so many other "lesser" deities?
TOK

Brownsville, TN

#26 Jan 26, 2013
motto wrote:
Hey TOK, It was "Noah" Moron!
You're right. But it doesn't make my point any less valid.

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#27 Jan 26, 2013
TOK wrote:
You're right. But it doesn't make my point any less valid.
Noah and Moses are in the same boat.

They're both fictional characters.
motto

Oneida, TN

#28 Jan 27, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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There are a lot of gods in Christian myth.
None of them are named "God". Believers of various faiths call their deity "God", including many Deists.
If your deity was real, don't you think it would be upset that you call it by the same name as so many other "lesser" deities?
Obama is president, does he get upset when we call him that?

You are not worth debating with because your arrogance won't be put aside. You add "myth" to your words for impact to make us believe you know something but you know no more than anyone else.
motto

Oneida, TN

#29 Jan 27, 2013
TOK wrote:
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You're right. But it doesn't make my point any less valid.
It makes you invalid as one who can't get it right.
motto

Oneida, TN

#30 Jan 27, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Noah and Moses are in the same boat.
They're both fictional characters.
Stroke your fictional sockpuppet, thats the best you can do.

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#31 Jan 27, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
Most forms of manipulation in use by the religious don't work on the internet. Combine that with open competition of ideas and the ability to converse anonymously, and you have a medium where religion fares very poorly.
That sums it up nicely.

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#32 Jan 27, 2013
motto wrote:
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It makes you invalid as one who can't get it right.
Do you think Tok's example about the flood is a fair argument? Forget about everything else for a moment and consider the main point.

Do you think it is rational to believe that Noah and his family could have collected two of every kind of animal, built a boat a little bigger than a football field, then weathered a global flood? Or do you think Noah's Ark is a story and not history?
Old

Racine, OH

#33 Jan 27, 2013
The internet isn't what's killing religions. Corrupt clergy are killing religions.

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#34 Jan 27, 2013
Old wrote:
The internet isn't what's killing religions. Corrupt clergy are killing religions.
Well, pedophile priests have definitely done a number on Catholicism. And the gangsters at the Vatican are making it worse.

But this is all old news. The new thing here is that people can access this information very quickly and outside the judgmental view of their fellow churchgoers they can read things on their smartphones that call into question the logic of their beliefs. Like the Noah's Ark example detailed in the previous posts.

The morally bankrupt clergy are definitely causing harm to the brainwashing efforts of religion but it is the internet that delivers the killing blows.

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#35 Jan 27, 2013
motto wrote:
Obama is president, does he get upset when we call him that?
I doubt it. He wasn't born a president. He rose to the position.

Your analogy has failed.
motto wrote:
You are not worth debating with because your arrogance won't be put aside. You add "myth" to your words for impact to make us believe you know something but you know no more than anyone else.
I do know more than other people, including you. Do you know what color my flashlight is? I do.

Your intellectual rigor has been called into question. It may not be worth debating.
Grey Boxer

United States

#36 Jan 27, 2013
Another point to the flood being BS is back in the day when they were making up things to put in the bible, they didn't know fresh water and salt water fish couldn't live together. They needed another Ark to put the fish in as well.

If God was going to perform a miracle and save all the fish then why didn't he do the same with the land animals, why kill 99.99% of them all? Its a stupid story that was copied off an even earlier religion. Look it up. Then you have the retards in northern Ky with their creation museum explaining how they put dinosaurs on the Ark. They have displays of kids riding on the back of them.WTF?
Old

Racine, OH

#37 Jan 27, 2013
Grey Boxer wrote:
Another point to the flood being BS is back in the day when they were making up things to put in the bible, they didn't know fresh water and salt water fish couldn't live together. They needed another Ark to put the fish in as well.
If God was going to perform a miracle and save all the fish then why didn't he do the same with the land animals, why kill 99.99% of them all? Its a stupid story that was copied off an even earlier religion. Look it up. Then you have the retards in northern Ky with their creation museum explaining how they put dinosaurs on the Ark. They have displays of kids riding on the back of them.WTF?
Dinosaurs didn't go on the ark. That's why they died out. Also God told the fresh water fish to swim really fast
Grey Boxer

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#39 Jan 27, 2013
Old wrote:
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Dinosaurs didn't go on the ark. That's why they died out. Also God told the fresh water fish to swim really fast
Tell the guys at the Creation museum that. They seem to have scripture backing up their reasoning. They are also building a large Ark ride with dinosaurs and I believe unicorn on the Ark because the bible does say that unicorns do exist.

Here's some pictures if anyone is interested. http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/creation-museu...

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#40 Jan 27, 2013
Grey Boxer wrote:
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Tell the guys at the Creation museum that. They seem to have scripture backing up their reasoning. They are also building a large Ark ride with dinosaurs and I believe unicorn on the Ark because the bible does say that unicorns do exist.
Here's some pictures if anyone is interested. http://www.skepticalmonkey.com/creation-museu...
I think the Ark ride is on hold, which is good news. We do not need another testament to ignorance in this state.

The flood story seems to be based on a lot of earlier myths, as you pointed out. One in particular is in the story of Gilgamesh. There are sections of the flood story in that myth that are almost identical to the Bible story.

But naaaaahhh, the Bible version is the true one!
motto

Oneida, TN

#41 Jan 27, 2013
There is a creator and organized religion has done more harm to the plan of that creator than anything that could have ever been contrived against it.

Trying to explain How I know that there is a creator is like trying to explain the joys of having a child to someone who has no desire for children. Feeling the emotions that come with being filled with joy upon witnessing that childs birth would have no meaning to a person who detests the thought of having children.

I could never understand why some athiests act as if its their duty to berate and demean what others hold sacred, sort of like the school yard bully taunting what he percieves as being weaker. What do you hope to gain from such actions? Do you think that if you can convince someone that it truly is a myth that you have somehow accomplished something important or great?

Just because you feel as if your existence is the result of an accident and pointless in the scheme of things, doesn't give you the right to mock someone else for their beliefs.

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