Martin vs Zimmerman
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Westwood

London, KY

#1 Jun 24, 2013
Here we go again.
This will be the biggest fiasco since O.J. The judge has already permitted the prosecutor to start off with gutter language and the defense to start with a joke.

Woe unto us all if Zimmerman is acquitted.

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#2 Jun 24, 2013
Zimmerman was told to back off and not follow him. He took the law into his own hands. Wrong is wrong.

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pore old rodney king

Trinity, TX

#4 Jun 25, 2013
TJMemphis wrote:
Zimmerman was told to back off and not follow him. He took the law into his own hands. Wrong is wrong.
Martin won't be in trouble again for a long time, though, regardless of this outcome. He was a source of distress to his family because of his undisciplined behavior.
Keith Stone

Pine Knot, KY

#6 Jun 25, 2013
TJMemphis wrote:
Zimmerman was told to back off and not follow him. He took the law into his own hands. Wrong is wrong.
Even though Zimmerman shouldn't have confronted him, Martin had no right to attack Zimmerman and beat his head into the concrete and break his nose.

NBC is being sued and rightfully so because they intentionally edited the tapes to make the whole thing look racially motivated. This whole thing is blown way out of proportion. If someone was pounding my head into the pavement, I would have done the same thing.

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#7 Jun 27, 2013
Keith Stone wrote:
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Even though Zimmerman shouldn't have confronted him, Martin had no right to attack Zimmerman and beat his head into the concrete and break his nose.
NBC is being sued and rightfully so because they intentionally edited the tapes to make the whole thing look racially motivated. This whole thing is blown way out of proportion. If someone was pounding my head into the pavement, I would have done the same thing.
According to 911 call- I clearly heard them say to Zimmerman not to follow him... Also in trial today, his friend who was on the phone with him at the time all of this happened, had said that Martin said some creepy man was following him. Then she head Martin asked Zimmerman- Why are you following me? Next she heard Martin hollering Get off! Get Off!

I know what this says to me- and I hope justice will served in the end.
Keith Stone

Pine Knot, KY

#8 Jun 28, 2013
TJMemphis wrote:
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According to 911 call- I clearly heard them say to Zimmerman not to follow him... Also in trial today, his friend who was on the phone with him at the time all of this happened, had said that Martin said some creepy man was following him. Then she head Martin asked Zimmerman- Why are you following me? Next she heard Martin hollering Get off! Get Off!
I know what this says to me- and I hope justice will served in the end.
Then you "clearly" heard wrong. The 911 opperator said "we don't need you to do that". 911 opperators don't want to put anyone in jeopardy because of liability but Zimmerman was hired to protect the gated community, he was doing his job and did it well.

And it was "creepy white cracker" not as you said, "creepy man". Martin was the racist and how dare a white looking man bother him.

The witness you quote has been proven to lie on the issue several times now.

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#9 Jun 28, 2013
Keith Stone wrote:
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Then you "clearly" heard wrong. The 911 opperator said "we don't need you to do that". 911 opperators don't want to put anyone in jeopardy because of liability but Zimmerman was hired to protect the gated community, he was doing his job and did it well.
And it was "creepy white cracker" not as you said, "creepy man". Martin was the racist and how dare a white looking man bother him.
The witness you quote has been proven to lie on the issue several times now.
I know she said "creepy white cracker" but to point out those exact words really doesn't change anything here.

His past is not swaying me either. We have all done things in the past that we are not proud of and kids will be kids till they learn otherwise or care enough about themselves to change and want to make a difference in how there life is going. Some peers will have more influence on a child than a parent. We can only do what we can do to teach them and to bring them up to be better individuals in the world. e can only hope that they will come around.

Plenty of kids cut through neighborhoods to get home from the corner store. There is no crime in that. I feel for these parents.

Sounds as though you already have your mind made up, as I probably do here. We can just aree to disagree and move on.
Runner

London, KY

#10 Jun 29, 2013
Keith Stone wrote:
<quoted text>... Zimmerman was hired to protect the gated community, he was doing his job and did it well.
Just to be clear, he was NOT a paid guard for the community, he was a volunteer. It's a matter of opinion as to how well he did his "job." He apparently had a habit of calling police about innocuous things, like kids playing too loud, and people being black. Sounds like a jerk to me.
Keith Stone

Pine Knot, KY

#11 Jun 29, 2013
Runner wrote:
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Just to be clear, he was NOT a paid guard for the community, he was a volunteer. It's a matter of opinion as to how well he did his "job." He apparently had a habit of calling police about innocuous things, like kids playing too loud, and people being black. Sounds like a jerk to me.
If you expect me to believe that Zimmerman called the police just because of people "being black" then you need to show some proof to back up your claim.
Lives in Florida

Tampa, FL

#12 Jul 3, 2013
TJMemphis wrote:
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I know she said "creepy white cracker" but to point out those exact words really doesn't change anything here.
His past is not swaying me either. We have all done things in the past that we are not proud of and kids will be kids till they learn otherwise or care enough about themselves to change and want to make a difference in how there life is going. Some peers will have more influence on a child than a parent. We can only do what we can do to teach them and to bring them up to be better individuals in the world. e can only hope that they will come around.
Plenty of kids cut through neighborhoods to get home from the corner store. There is no crime in that. I feel for these parents.
Sounds as though you already have your mind made up, as I probably do here. We can just aree to disagree and move on.
Watch the WHOLE trial, hear all the evidence.....then and only then can you tell what is going on. I live a few miles from all this (used to live in Somerset) and can tell you that the mainstream media has it wrong. There is a local channel that is airing the WHOLE TRIAL WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE. Don't just pick and choose which part to listen to in order to form your own opinion. Zimmerman was not pursuing this kid when he was attacked. Martin hid from him and then jumped out, confronted him, and started punching. Yes, Zimmerman could have avoided all this by staying in his vehicle, but how was he to know that Martin would do this? Zimmerman was just trying to keep his neighborhood safe when he was attacked.

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#13 Jul 3, 2013
TJMemphis wrote:
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I know she said "creepy white cracker" but to point out those exact words really doesn't change anything here.
His past is not swaying me either. We have all done things in the past that we are not proud of and kids will be kids till they learn otherwise or care enough about themselves to change and want to make a difference in how there life is going. Some peers will have more influence on a child than a parent. We can only do what we can do to teach them and to bring them up to be better individuals in the world. e can only hope that they will come around.
Plenty of kids cut through neighborhoods to get home from the corner store. There is no crime in that. I feel for these parents.
Sounds as though you already have your mind made up, as I probably do here. We can just aree to disagree and move on.
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This was not just some kid.He is 6'2" almost 200#, and a known thug. You may want to see a pic. of this poor little kid.
Runner

Brodhead, KY

#14 Jul 3, 2013
Lives in Florida wrote:
<quoted text>Watch the WHOLE trial, hear all the evidence, then and only then can you tell what is going on.... Martin hid from him and then jumped out, confronted him, and started punching.
Take your own advice. Nobody saw any of that, except Zimmerman and Martin. We are only hearing one side, because the other is dead.

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#16 Jul 3, 2013
I'll bet he took MR. Z's side.lol

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#17 Jul 3, 2013
Where is the press and outrage over this cold blooded murder.Oh I forgot it was 2 black young men who only shot a 13 month old white baby and mother. I don't think this baby attacked anyone.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/cops-hu...
Runner

London, KY

#20 Jul 3, 2013
"being" heard. Darn auto-correct.
Mercy Me

Middlesboro, KY

#24 Jul 3, 2013
We lived in Sanford Florida once but it was years ago. I guess back in the late 1980s it was. We had to live there for almost a whole year before we could afford to get back out. Every night you could hear gunfire even back then and one of our cars was even stolen right out of the driveway one night for the rims. The car was found at a park four blocks away about two hours later and it was tore to pieces.
I visited friends near there three years ago and it has gotten nothing but worse.
Zimmerman is innocent in my opinion and here is why. Unless you have ever been to a place like that you would never understand the caliber of people who are there and what kind of atmosphere it really is to live in.
The town has always had racial tension and it always will. Whites are a minority there unless you go over the tracks but there is a very very thin line between the good areas and the bad. That means the bad elements creep over to the more affluent areas more often than not.
Where theres something of value to be had for the taking then thats where the bad elements will crawl.
So take it from somebody in Somerset who knows it for a fact because they have been there and lived there. Sanford is nothing but a cesspool of racism from way back when it was nothing but blacks working the orange groves for the rich.
You step foot in the depths of Sanford and there is a part they call Midway. Its where these people have let the area go to rot and you will be taking your life in your own hands unless you are one of their crew. You better not break down there at night either. And this place isnt that very far from where the Zimmerman vs Martin shooting happened.
I say that Zimmerman did what he had to do. Case closed. When he is acquitted you can all watch Sanford burn because that is how they think down there. The people who own stores in Sanford Florida had better be putting their wares up some place safe because they will steal, riot and even turn on their own when this happens.
You mark my words they better make sure the National Guard is called out to stop it all before it starts up.
Sister

Tampa, FL

#25 Jul 3, 2013
Runner wrote:
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Take your own advice. Nobody saw any of that, except Zimmerman and Martin. We are only hearing one side, because the other is dead.
There was a witness to the fight with Zimmerman under Martin getting his head pounded in the ground. Like I said, you have to see the whole trial with all the testimony!!!
Think about it

London, KY

#28 Jul 5, 2013
This happened a few years ago right here in Somerset: My son..skinny 16 yr old white kid wit NO criminal history was stopped AT GUNPOINT by some security guard wanna be civilian while my son was running down ferry Road in broad daylight. Why? Because he had a backpack (filled with a drink, an mp3 player and something to eat) and he was running (he was late to get to see his friends play in a basketball game at the Christian School)past the Sheriffs house by Abrahams walk. The sheriff's house had been robbed in the past and this jackass hero wanna be assumed my son was robbing him again so he pulled a truck in front, pulled out a gun and pointed it at him,forced him down Abrahams walk cursed at him, put a gun to his head and called the cops. He figured my son was up to no good. IF my kid would have fought back or run he would be Travon Martin!! Differences are simply Martin is black with a shady history and he fought back, Travon Martin kicked this wanna be security guard's ass. Martin didn't know if this "spooky ass cracker" was out to rape him, kill him or what so he hid in a bush and kicked his butt. For THAT he got shot. Because he was a better fighter. Zimmerman was wrong. Wrong for following the kid, wrong for assuming he was a criminal and wrong for shooting someone just because he was losing a fight.

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#29 Jul 6, 2013
So it was also racially motivated.

Under Florida law, all six jurors must be convinced Zimmerman acted with “ill will,”“hatred,” or “an indifference to human life,” notes Reuters.

Zimmerman brought the gun with him. He took the law into his own hands. If he wanted to be a cop he should go to school for it.

Also I don't need a picture of the persons face to form an opinion. Thats the problem with the world today.

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#30 Jul 6, 2013
This statement also proves Zimmerman to be a liar:

Zimmerman had maintained in an interview with Fox News last year that he did not know about the law.

Prosecutors say he did have knowledge of it, however, because the subject was covered in a college class on criminal justice Zimmerman attended.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/...

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