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“smiling on a cloudy day”

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zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>Truth is not racist, and in order for my comments to be labeled as racist, I would need to be a minority, which I am not. Try again!
No, a comment can be racist, it matters not who the speaker is.

Saying, "white people is doing all the killing!" is racist. One, it's not true, and two, it assigns race as a causality.

I can say "a black guy I know likes watermelon". Not racist.

Saying "all the black folk eating up watermelon!" Racist. See the difference?

Now, you could had said the mass shooter in Connecticut was white. Not racist. But saying "white people are doing all the killing!" is most certainly racist.

Funny how you then had to go back and add the caveat that the deadliest shooting rampage on US soil was perpetrated by an Asian, destroying your entire race-based argument in the process.

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zipyourlip wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone should be allowed to own their own Vulcan system, a 20MM Gatling gun that shoots over 3,000 rounds per minute with high explosion cartridges. Boy would that cause mayhem. I qualified as an expert with an M-16 back in the day, and see no reason for that type of fire power to be on the streets of America. I'm with Senator Manchin, I don't need that many shots to hit what I fire at!
See, here again is where your argument falls on its face. You bring up guns that are illegal for citizens to own without a permit as some sort of proof why we should ban semi-automatic rifles? What point are you trying to make? Some guns are illegal so that means that certain legal guns should be made that way?

What kind of faulty reasoning is that?

Instead of silly rhetoric, one simply has to look at statistics. You're more likely to suffocate on a plastic bag than you are to be killed by a modern semi-automatic rifle.

So again the question remains: Why should we ban these firearms? Their impact on society is negligible. Our gun murder rate has been decreasing for years, and is the lowest it has been since 1980.

What is the cause for all this fear-mongering? Unless the motive isn't a decrease in the gun murder rate nationwide, but rather an unarmed populace.

That is what is really going on here. It has absolutely nothing to do with public safety.
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Bronston Man wrote:
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I didn't realize the alcohol debate was a partisan vote? Was Johnny Walker the Republican and Jim Beam the Democrat?
And are you really trying to assert that murders are committed more by whites than by minorities? I think you will find otherwise:
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/rac...
Blacks are both more likely to die by homicide, as they are vastly more likely to commit homicide.
"In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites."
"In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites."
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Now, the much heralded statistics pandered about by the gun grabber crowd here recently was the 500th homicide in the city of Chicago. Now I want you to take a wild guess as to the racial makeup of both victims and perpetrators of those 500 killings. Go on, guess.
Nevermind, here is a link:
http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/races/
Asian 11
Black 2,048
Unknown 140
White 647
* White includes Hispanic
That is data for the past five years. But yeah, tell us again how it is all white people's fault.
No one brought race into this conversation except for you. When presented with facts your race-based argument falls apart, so I would suggest in the future you steer away from that talking point.
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Um really like Johnny Walker and Jim Beam,that must make me an independent.lol

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Here is the part that maybe got it zapped. Funny how one can accuse "all teh white people killing everybody!" and not be censored, but state facts and statistics and your post disappears?

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Did you know that there are 14.82 murders per 100K by blacks versus 2.17 per 100K for whites?

Per capita there are 7x more murders committed by blacks than whites.

But just "look who is doing all the killing!" according to zipyourlip. It's all the crazy white people who legally own guns!
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Bronston Man wrote:
Here is the part that maybe got it zapped. Funny how one can accuse "all teh white people killing everybody!" and not be censored, but state facts and statistics and your post disappears?
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Did you know that there are 14.82 murders per 100K by blacks versus 2.17 per 100K for whites?
Per capita there are 7x more murders committed by blacks than whites.
But just "look who is doing all the killing!" according to zipyourlip. It's all the crazy white people who legally own guns!
Just got back in and haven't read the entire thread, but blaming white people for gun violence in America was the premise of Bowling for Columbine. It's a diversion and similar in purpose to the "angry white male" label that became popular a while back. Not all democrats or left leaners are anti-gun, socialist nuts. The "white male" label is code for capitaist America and when someone tries to use it in a negative context you can bet that person hates the U.S as it is and would welcome European socialism.

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