maddd

Manchester, KY

#1 Dec 31, 2012
were going over it so it will be interesting to see what our first pay check will look like!
yay

Manchester, KY

#2 Dec 31, 2012
only 9 hours until we all get laid off!!!
clown

Somerset, KY

#4 Jan 1, 2013
The US Senate voted last night. The clown from Bowling Green was one of 8 dissenters. The house will vote on the 2nd.

“Not afraid to stand alone.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 09

Flat Lick Ky.

#5 Jan 1, 2013
clown wrote:
The US Senate voted last night. The clown from Bowling Green was one of 8 dissenters. The house will vote on the 2nd.
I saw that on CSPAN.
Already

London, KY

#6 Jan 1, 2013
This state has been over the cliff for a long time.Just look a our economy in this county. No jobs and no industry.

This just made our downhill slide a little steeper.
MeLoco

Somerset, KY

#7 Jan 1, 2013
Politicians playing their games... Who didn't see a last minute deal coming? Now congress will vote it in and look all good giving up their 9% pay raise for the cause. YEA!!!!

“Sixteen Tons”

Level 6

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#8 Jan 1, 2013
And then cry and dramatize everything for the foreseeable future. Way to spend the tax revenue!

“Not afraid to stand alone.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 09

Flat Lick Ky.

#9 Jan 1, 2013
Senate no votes on Fiscal Cliff Bill.

Rand Paul.....Ky.....Republican.
Mike Lee....Utah....Republican.
Richard Shelby....ALA....Republican.
Chuck Grassley.....Iowa....Republica n.
Marco Rubio.....Fla......Republican.
Tom Harkin....Iowa......Democrat.
Tom Carper....Del....Democrat.
Michael Bennet....Colo....Democrat.

Thought I would post this for you folks.
geez guys

Manchester, KY

#10 Jan 1, 2013
Limbertwig wrote:
Senate no votes on Fiscal Cliff Bill.
Rand Paul.....Ky.....Republican.
Mike Lee....Utah....Republican.
Richard Shelby....ALA....Republican.
Chuck Grassley.....Iowa....Republica n.
Marco Rubio.....Fla......Republican.
Tom Harkin....Iowa......Democrat.
Tom Carper....Del....Democrat.
Michael Bennet....Colo....Democrat.
Thought I would post this for you folks.
yeah i almost wish that it got voted down so everybody can take a look at there first weeks pay! maybe something like that would wake everybody up!
Yeah

Elm Grove, WI

#13 Jan 1, 2013
clown wrote:
The US Senate voted last night. The clown from Bowling Green was one of 8 dissenters. The house will vote on the 2nd.
It was a fabricated problem made up by a bunch of fabricators who could have just as easily fabricated a solution/nulification of the first fabrication.
I'm glad Paul voted against. maybe he's not in to playing stupid games for the purpose of distracting the public.
The fiscal cliff was ink on paper and words in the air. If anyone doesn't see that, then you are truly ignorant.
TNT

Lexington, KY

#14 Jan 1, 2013
quote from NYT:

from: NY times Op-ED: Scrap that pesky constitution!

AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.

Consider, for example, the assertion by the Senate minority leader last week that the House could not take up a plan by Senate Democrats to extend tax cuts on households making $250,000 or less because the Constitution requires that revenue measures originate in the lower chamber. Why should anyone care? Why should a lame-duck House, 27 members of which were defeated for re-election, have a stranglehold on our economy? Why does a grotesquely malapportioned Senate get to decide the nationís fate?

Our obsession with the Constitution has saddled us with a dysfunctional political system, kept us from debating the merits of divisive issues and inflamed our public discourse. Instead of arguing about what is to be done, we argue about what JamesMadison might have wanted done 225 years ago.

As someone who has taught constitutional law for almost 40 years, I am ashamed it took me so long to see how bizarre all this is.

i am amazed this was printed.
funny

Tinley Park, IL

#15 Jan 2, 2013
TNT wrote:
quote from NYT:
from: NY times Op-ED: Scrap that pesky constitution!
AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.
Consider, for example, the assertion by the Senate minority leader last week that the House could not take up a plan by Senate Democrats to extend tax cuts on households making $250,000 or less because the Constitution requires that revenue measures originate in the lower chamber. Why should anyone care? Why should a lame-duck House, 27 members of which were defeated for re-election, have a stranglehold on our economy? Why does a grotesquely malapportioned Senate get to decide the nationís fate?
Our obsession with the Constitution has saddled us with a dysfunctional political system, kept us from debating the merits of divisive issues and inflamed our public discourse. Instead of arguing about what is to be done, we argue about what JamesMadison might have wanted done 225 years ago.
As someone who has taught constitutional law for almost 40 years, I am ashamed it took me so long to see how bizarre all this is.
i am amazed this was printed.
Even communists have freedom of speech in America.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#16 Jan 2, 2013
funny wrote:
<quoted text>
Even communists have freedom of speech in America.
Agreed, that was some bull**** right there. Ok, so the republicans have compromised a little here, good for them. Now, it's up to you Democrats to cut the spending and hold up your end of the deal, we're waiting.....
Open your eyes people

Lexington, KY

#17 Jan 2, 2013
Limbertwig wrote:
Senate no votes on Fiscal Cliff Bill.
Rand Paul.....Ky.....Republican.
Mike Lee....Utah....Republican.
Richard Shelby....ALA....Republican.
Chuck Grassley.....Iowa....Republica n.
Marco Rubio.....Fla......Republican.
Tom Harkin....Iowa......Democrat.
Tom Carper....Del....Democrat.
Michael Bennet....Colo....Democrat.
Thought I would post this for you folks.
I don't blame our guy from BG voting no. He voted no because it said they were going to cut 15 billion dollars while increase tax spending by 620 billion.....In other words they are increasing $41 for every $1 cut. What we have on paper is our elected officials saying...ok ok we were going to spend 5 trillion next year (3.8 trillion last year) but instead we will cut back to 4.8 trillion. So what they actually did and cut was future spending and not cut out what was spent last year. Everyone is so happy that only those making $400K get a tax increase but be sure to look at your 1st pay check of the new year....you will see a decrease in your take home pay due to the payroll tax.....It works out to about $50 a check if you make $30K a year.....and goes up if you make more.
Farmer

Racine, OH

#18 Jan 2, 2013
TNT wrote:
... the Constitution requires that revenue measures originate in the lower chamber....

As someone who has taught constitutional law for almost 40 years, I am ashamed it took me so long to see how bizarre all this is.
i am amazed this was printed.
If you've been teaching constitutional law for 40 years then you should know the obvious built in work around. The president has the authority to introduce legislation and bypass subcommittees. Why hasn't he done so?

“Not afraid to stand alone.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 09

Flat Lick Ky.

#19 Jan 2, 2013
Open your eyes people wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't blame our guy from BG voting no. He voted no because it said they were going to cut 15 billion dollars while increase tax spending by 620 billion.....In other words they are increasing $41 for every $1 cut. What we have on paper is our elected officials saying...ok ok we were going to spend 5 trillion next year (3.8 trillion last year) but instead we will cut back to 4.8 trillion. So what they actually did and cut was future spending and not cut out what was spent last year. Everyone is so happy that only those making $400K get a tax increase but be sure to look at your 1st pay check of the new year....you will see a decrease in your take home pay due to the payroll tax.....It works out to about $50 a check if you make $30K a year.....and goes up if you make more.
What about the 2 million people who got their last unemployment check last friday?

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#20 Jan 2, 2013
Open your eyes people wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't blame our guy from BG voting no. He voted no because it said they were going to cut 15 billion dollars while increase tax spending by 620 billion.....In other words they are increasing $41 for every $1 cut. What we have on paper is our elected officials saying...ok ok we were going to spend 5 trillion next year (3.8 trillion last year) but instead we will cut back to 4.8 trillion. So what they actually did and cut was future spending and not cut out what was spent last year. Everyone is so happy that only those making $400K get a tax increase but be sure to look at your 1st pay check of the new year....you will see a decrease in your take home pay due to the payroll tax.....It works out to about $50 a check if you make $30K a year.....and goes up if you make more.
That tax increase was coming regardless of who won....notice how BOTH candidates failed to mention that during the election?

Booming Thunder
Level 5

Since: Oct 12

Western * U*S*A*

#21 Jan 2, 2013
They also failed to mention that the American people are not their top priority.

“Boogie Chill'un”

Level 6

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#22 Jan 2, 2013
Booming Thunder wrote:
They also failed to mention that the American people are not their top priority.
Yeah....that goes without saying ...guess that's why they don't say it! LOL

“Statism is slavery”

Since: Jan 13

Somerset, KY

#23 Jan 2, 2013
We've gone over the fiscal cliff long time ago. They drum up alarming labels, so the U.S. American people will back them up. The U.S. right now, even as we speak, is like Wile E. Coyote: we're over the cliff, it's just a matter of time before we look down.

Has anyone even read the Fiscal Cliff Bill? I ask because some are bashing Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) for voting it down.

The Fiscal Cliff Bill (that Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Rep. Hal Rogers (R-KY-5), Speaker Boehner (R-OH-8), and even golden boy Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI-1) voted for) includes federal funding* for NASCAR, farm subsidies, electric cars, Puerto Rican rum, etc., and taxes being raised on all classes.

*federal funding, meaning the taxpayers are paying for it (well, paying off the interest of the Fed loans, which directly paid for them).

Sen. Rand Paul introduced a bill called Read the Bills Act, which would require members of Congress to read bills before they are voted on. Maybe the People should read the bills before they get so attached to it like a whipped dog to table scraps.

"One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results." - Milton Friedman

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