Georgia - Georgia Senate OKs Guns on Public Transit

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Marcus

United States

#64 Jul 7, 2008
Whitney wrote:
I am not surprised my home state would be okaying this. Typical redneck laws.
I'm in Georgia and i wish that every one would follow your "redneck stat" in gun law. I wish you could understand that gun permits are for people that want to protect them selves and there family, not hurt other people. By the way, i'm a black man so i guess i can't be a redneck!!!
Marcus

United States

#65 Jul 7, 2008
johnny taroo wrote:
Don't see any need to have weapons (guns) around
public transportion or restaurants. I have gun permit and own guns and I am against much of the gun control issues, but this is not the wild west any more and really can't understand allowing guns to be around public transportation and such!
Why would anyone (even with carry permit) want to have or need to have a gun around public places like that. Don't make much sense to me.
You do understand that if someone wants to shoot you then they don't need a permit. Stats show that .1 percent of people with permits and registered gun committ crimes involving a gun. So that means that people who do have a permit just want to protect thereselves, there family, and the people around them. So you should say thank you.

“Sarah Palin/Lynn Spears 2012!!”

Since: Jun 08

C-Town

#66 Jul 7, 2008
DnaMonkey wrote:
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There is that HONKIE term again Whitey311, Im starting to get the feeling that you may not be white...Just a wild guess on this forum...If im wrong I'll buy you a free day at the gun range, and you can come to know the fun of sport shooting. but my money is safe I believe...Well Whitey311??
I am white, but I don't see why that is such an important matter to you.

And Marcus - being a black man doesn't exclude you from being a redneck or a honky, I consider redneck and honkies to be nothing more than rural trash. Its important to note however, not all people from the country are honkies or rednecks as well, because some of them do manage to get educated. But schools in the country are not as good as schools in suburbia, because, I made the switch between them, as did my little cousin, and we both had to play major catch up(and I was in the gifted and talented program) in our new schools that had much higher standards than the school I went to in Canton, GA, and she went to school in North Carolina, and I definitely think there is a link between less education and guns, in ALL communities. But thats off topic anyways, LOL!

And to all these people using them for protection, please explain to me, because I really am open to hearing, how you can get to your guns in an emergency? Like, a car just drove into your house and dudes with guns are getting out...or someone just kicked your door down...how do you get your gun quickly if its stored safely and properly? Like, do you have to choose, go grab my kids from their room or go grab the gun from the safe? I just don't see it being possible AND effective.

And how many have actually been in a situation where a gun was used for protection? I know I have been in situations where guns were grossly misused, and they quickly went from being something that could be protecting us, to something that could kill us, so it would be interesting to see, how many people on here had experience with either.
Marcus

United States

#67 Jul 7, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
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I am white, but I don't see why that is such an important matter to you.
And Marcus - being a black man doesn't exclude you from being a redneck or a honky, I consider redneck and honkies to be nothing more than rural trash. Its important to note however, not all people from the country are honkies or rednecks as well, because some of them do manage to get educated. But schools in the country are not as good as schools in suburbia, because, I made the switch between them, as did my little cousin, and we both had to play major catch up(and I was in the gifted and talented program) in our new schools that had much higher standards than the school I went to in Canton, GA, and she went to school in North Carolina, and I definitely think there is a link between less education and guns, in ALL communities. But thats off topic anyways, LOL!
And to all these people using them for protection, please explain to me, because I really am open to hearing, how you can get to your guns in an emergency? Like, a car just drove into your house and dudes with guns are getting out...or someone just kicked your door down...how do you get your gun quickly if its stored safely and properly? Like, do you have to choose, go grab my kids from their room or go grab the gun from the safe? I just don't see it being possible AND effective.
And how many have actually been in a situation where a gun was used for protection? I know I have been in situations where guns were grossly misused, and they quickly went from being something that could be protecting us, to something that could kill us, so it would be interesting to see, how many people on here had experience with either.
Stupid people will remain stupid no matter what kind of school they go to. And also, my gun as well as most people who are trained to use it, is locked up right next to my bed and i will use it as a first resort. Do something for me. Define redneck and honky in the dictoinary and show it to me! Also when these crazy people break into your home, tell your kids that mommies magic vest will protect them when he desides that he doesn't want to leave any one to tell the cops who robbed them. Then when you get back from your dream world that you live in, i will show you how to really protect your family!

“Sarah Palin/Lynn Spears 2012!!”

Since: Jun 08

C-Town

#68 Jul 7, 2008
So you have the key for your gun safe sitting right there on it? Or ready to grab at any second?

red·neck
1. an uneducated white farm laborer, esp. from the South.
2. a bigot or reactionary, esp. from the rural working class.

3. Also, red-necked. narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary: a redneck attitude.

See...it can be applied to more than one race, although, if you want to use a very narrow definition of the word, I guess you could apply it to whites only, but I have met all kinds of rednecks: black, white, hispanic. Honky is more so a white person term, but it is what makes up most of the ignorant, rural south, I know because thats where I grew up.

And while stupid people usual do remain stupid, children raised by stupid people could benefit from a better education than what you get out in the country, where there is hardly any diversity, or reflection of the real world.

“Sarah Palin/Lynn Spears 2012!!”

Since: Jun 08

C-Town

#69 Jul 7, 2008
SeaBass wrote:
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That might be the case if every person carrying a gun wore them in a holster on their belts in plain site but they don’t. Criminals don’t care that police are looking for them but they do know that an unarmed citizen is easy prey. Making something illegal doesn’t make it go away.
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So you’re saying that because they have a gun they want to commit murder? As if the gun makes them want to kill? Someone who is ready to kill another human being doesn’t rely on the tool to decide their next course of action. This is truly a rhetorical statement with no scientific basis in fact. Take your statement above, replace the word “gun” with car, sword, axe, crossbow, etc. to see how ridiculous that really is. Once again, making something illegal doesn’t make it go away.
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For some people I’m sure this is correct. Simply having a gun and never training with it is like having a guitar and telling people you’re a musician….it doesn’t mean you can play. Statistics rarely differentiate between those who are skilled with a gun nor does do they address the possibility that a gun owner simply didn’t have access to his/her gun during a home invasion (car, office, etc.)….they simply rely on a simple question such “Are you a gun owner?”
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If you’ve trained with it and prepared yourself for the possibility then “yes.” For those of us who take protecting our families seriously, simply having a gun is not enough….you have to know how to use it effectively. My wife was a former police officer and she’s trained with handguns, shotguns, and rifles. In the event of an emergency, I grab my Glock and she grabs the Mossberg.
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Once again, MILLIONS of people walk around unarmed everyday, and nothing bad happens. I think its sad when you have to plan your life and laws around the fear of being attacked, when the actual chance of something like that happening to you are probably very slim. And I am not sure how having a gun in these cases always makes you safer...the risk of being disarmed and having the gun turned on you, by a criminal who may have not been armed to begin with is also a frightening scenario to consider as well.

I guess I just think back to the times guns have been used for good vs. bad in my life, and the bad simply outweighs the good, because I have yet to ever need a gun to protect myself.

“I hate smart, dumb people ”

Since: Jul 08

Atlanta, GA

#70 Jul 7, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
So you have the key for your gun safe sitting right there on it? Or ready to grab at any second?
red·neck
1. an uneducated white farm laborer, esp. from the South.
2. a bigot or reactionary, esp. from the rural working class.
3. Also, red-necked. narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary: a redneck attitude.
See...it can be applied to more than one race, although, if you want to use a very narrow definition of the word, I guess you could apply it to whites only, but I have met all kinds of rednecks: black, white, hispanic. Honky is more so a white person term, but it is what makes up most of the ignorant, rural south, I know because thats where I grew up.
And while stupid people usual do remain stupid, children raised by stupid people could benefit from a better education than what you get out in the country, where there is hardly any diversity, or reflection of the real world.
Wow. Have you ever even been to Atl. Basicly what i'm sayin is that a person is going to committ a crime regardless of what the law says. But they do fear pain. Don't need a suburbian education to tell me that

“Sarah Palin/Lynn Spears 2012!!”

Since: Jun 08

C-Town

#71 Jul 7, 2008
Yeah I have been to Atlanta, several times, and I have always felt perfectly safe, whats your point? What has ever happened to you in atlanta?

Obviously criminals don't fear pain, murderers face capital punishment, and that does not prevent murder, so why would the slim chance that you could be armed, and the even slimmer chance you would successful protect yourself, deter a criminal from robbing you if they really want to? Easy answer: it wont! My bet is that MOST people who own a gun, including cops, will never get a chance to use a gun to prevent a crime.

“I hate smart, dumb people ”

Since: Jul 08

Atlanta, GA

#72 Jul 8, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
Yeah I have been to Atlanta, several times, and I have always felt perfectly safe, whats your point? What has ever happened to you in atlanta?
Obviously criminals don't fear pain, murderers face capital punishment, and that does not prevent murder, so why would the slim chance that you could be armed, and the even slimmer chance you would successful protect yourself, deter a criminal from robbing you if they really want to? Easy answer: it wont! My bet is that MOST people who own a gun, including cops, will never get a chance to use a gun to prevent a crime.
Your guess. DO you really believe that after there are 10 stories in the paper and new about robbers and killers being killed by armed citz. that it make them think twice. How many killers and robbers do you know? I use to know two. My cuzo and his friend use to rob houses until 2 years ago my cuzo saw his friend get his head blown off by some single mother in south atlanta. He has now turned his life over to God because of that. Where do you get your thinking from because mine comes from real life. I could give you his number and let you talk to him. How may robber and other get out of jail and do the same thing that put them in there. They no longer fear the law sweetie. I really hope it doesn't take a close call with one of these people for you to understand that!

“Mean Machine in Red & Black”

Since: Mar 08

Live, Laugh & Love

#73 Jul 8, 2008
I don't see the big deal. People carry just as many guns weather it is legal or not.

“Sarah Palin/Lynn Spears 2012!!”

Since: Jun 08

C-Town

#74 Jul 8, 2008
Marcus51 wrote:
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Your guess. DO you really believe that after there are 10 stories in the paper and new about robbers and killers being killed by armed citz. that it make them think twice. How many killers and robbers do you know? I use to know two. My cuzo and his friend use to rob houses until 2 years ago my cuzo saw his friend get his head blown off by some single mother in south atlanta. He has now turned his life over to God because of that. Where do you get your thinking from because mine comes from real life. I could give you his number and let you talk to him. How may robber and other get out of jail and do the same thing that put them in there. They no longer fear the law sweetie. I really hope it doesn't take a close call with one of these people for you to understand that!

Well I know 3 killers and robbers! What now! LOL

Stories in the paper probably don't really change criminals behavior, because, my guess is they are not reading them! And if they are, I bet it just makes them more likely to arm themselves, as we all know, like prostitution, thieving will never go away. The more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there are as well.

And please don't insult where I get my thinking from, I grew up in a home with guns, and I STILL remember the day my stepdad turned his legally registered gun on my mom, and threatened to kill her right in front of me.... see, I also get my views on guns from real life too.

“I hate smart, dumb people ”

Since: Jul 08

Atlanta, GA

#75 Jul 8, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
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Well I know 3 killers and robbers! What now! LOL
Stories in the paper probably don't really change criminals behavior, because, my guess is they are not reading them! And if they are, I bet it just makes them more likely to arm themselves, as we all know, like prostitution, thieving will never go away. The more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there are as well.
And please don't insult where I get my thinking from, I grew up in a home with guns, and I STILL remember the day my stepdad turned his legally registered gun on my mom, and threatened to kill her right in front of me.... see, I also get my views on guns from real life too.
Sorry about what happened to your fam but thats does not mean that i don't have the right to protect myself. And you keep saying "i guess". don't guess just give me facts. The truth is killers watch the news to. they are not all stupid. Every one is not your stepdad. If you get robbed in public and i have my gun, i could save your life. If i dont you could die and prob will. Don't give me BS! Give me something real P.S. the what now was cute! lol

“Sarah Palin/Lynn Spears 2012!!”

Since: Jun 08

C-Town

#76 Jul 8, 2008
I did give facts, pages back, about how you are more likely to be injured with a gun than use it to protect yourself. Go back and find the facts if you want them.

And while you are trying to "save" me, what if you accidentally shoot me? Or what if that person wasn't even going to kill/hurt me, but just rob me? I wouldn't want another person to have killed me on accident and have to live with the guilt of that! And I would most certainly rather give up my purse, than have someone die over a few hundred dollars.

I think guns are okay, when regulated, and limited, to households and a safe within the house. If its your house, have what you want in it, even though I don't think it makes it safer. I just think by bringing guns into public places, accidental shootings and unjust murders are going to skyrocket. I can just imagine, some nice old grandpa guy shooting some kid because they thought his cellphone was a gun. Then we are left with how we treat those people that are shooters...what if they do accidentally kill someone who is innocent? or they accidentally shoot the person who is the victim? Do we give them DP?

I also think the types of weapons that are available legally are excessive. I go to gun shows, and I see gold dessert eagles, sawed off shot guns with lasers...and I think...what are these made for? Protection??? I mean honestly...a sawed of shotgun with a laser? And not to make any of you uneasy, but I watched a non-citizen buy that exact shotgun!

I am sure there is a balance between protection, and excessive weapons, and finding that, will definitely be key to solving some of the gun issues we face.

“I hate smart, dumb people ”

Since: Jul 08

Atlanta, GA

#77 Jul 8, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
I did give facts, pages back, about how you are more likely to be injured with a gun than use it to protect yourself. Go back and find the facts if you want them.
And while you are trying to "save" me, what if you accidentally shoot me? Or what if that person wasn't even going to kill/hurt me, but just rob me? I wouldn't want another person to have killed me on accident and have to live with the guilt of that! And I would most certainly rather give up my purse, than have someone die over a few hundred dollars.
I think guns are okay, when regulated, and limited, to households and a safe within the house. If its your house, have what you want in it, even though I don't think it makes it safer. I just think by bringing guns into public places, accidental shootings and unjust murders are going to skyrocket. I can just imagine, some nice old grandpa guy shooting some kid because they thought his cellphone was a gun. Then we are left with how we treat those people that are shooters...what if they do accidentally kill someone who is innocent? or they accidentally shoot the person who is the victim? Do we give them DP?
I also think the types of weapons that are available legally are excessive. I go to gun shows, and I see gold dessert eagles, sawed off shot guns with lasers...and I think...what are these made for? Protection??? I mean honestly...a sawed of shotgun with a laser? And not to make any of you uneasy, but I watched a non-citizen buy that exact shotgun!
I am sure there is a balance between protection, and excessive weapons, and finding that, will definitely be key to solving some of the gun issues we face.
Regulating is what they already do. I don't know how a non citizen got the gun. But i do know that in every state lasers can only be owned by Officers and if some one is caught with i sawed off. they are arrested. As far your Facts. They don't show how many of those injured with a gun was a trained owner of it. The accidental shooting are mainly kids playing with daddys toys but that is the parents falt. Now on you being robbed, no one knows if he is going to kill you or not but him. If he pulls it out on some one, every one there is in danger. Why should i give him the opp to hurt anyone. I'd rather one robber get shot that alot of people just trying to go about there day.

Since: Jan 08

Detroit, MI

#78 Jul 8, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
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Once again, MILLIONS of people walk around unarmed everyday, and nothing bad happens. I think its sad when you have to plan your life and laws around the fear of being attacked, when the actual chance of something like that happening to you are probably very slim. And I am not sure how having a gun in these cases always makes you safer...the risk of being disarmed and having the gun turned on you, by a criminal who may have not been armed to begin with is also a frightening scenario to consider as well.
I guess I just think back to the times guns have been used for good vs. bad in my life, and the bad simply outweighs the good, because I have yet to ever need a gun to protect myself.
Yes, MILLIONS of people walk around unarmed everyday and nothing bad happens and MILLIONS of people walk around ARMED everyday and nothing bad happens either.“Planning your life and laws around the fear of being attacked” is simply being prepared. Do you wear a seat belt? Do you lock the door on your home? Do you look both ways when you cross the street? These are all examples of being prepared.

You’re right, there is a chance at being disarmed but if you’ve been prepared then you should have seen the situation developing in the first place – situation avoidance is the golden rule. When this (or you) has failed, you prepare for self-defense.

As I pointed out before, my first negative experience with a gun was having it shoved in my face and my van stolen. I was lucky to have lived AND learned from this experience. One would think that someone having been the victim of a violent crime using a handgun would hate all guns. No, I understood that a gun is simple a tool made of metal and plastic and that no amount of gun control will ever stop a bad person from using something against someone if he/she desires it. Instead, I trained, listened, and learned and became a responsible gun owner….I’ve carried now for 12 years and I haven’t done anything violent or criminal to warrant that right be taken away from me.

Since: Jan 08

Detroit, MI

#79 Jul 8, 2008
DaniGirl123 wrote:
I don't see the big deal. People carry just as many guns weather it is legal or not.
Exactly. This is the point everyone is trying to convey to Whitney.

“I hate smart, dumb people ”

Since: Jul 08

Atlanta, GA

#80 Jul 8, 2008
SeaBass wrote:
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Exactly. This is the point everyone is trying to convey to Whitney.
Not to insult her. but i don't think she wants to get it. She has been through something and no one can change her mind on it. But i do have mad love for her.

“ME DON'T NEED MENSA!”

Since: Jul 08

Marietta, GA

#81 Jul 9, 2008
1918
whitney311 wrote:
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I am white, but I don't see why that is such an important matter to you.
And Marcus - being a black man doesn't exclude you from being a redneck or a honky, I consider redneck and honkies to be nothing more than rural trash. Its important to note however, not all people from the country are honkies or rednecks as well, because some of them do manage to get educated. But schools in the country are not as good as schools in suburbia, because, I made the switch between them, as did my little cousin, and we both had to play major catch up(and I was in the gifted and talented program) in our new schools that had much higher standards than the school I went to in Canton, GA, and she went to school in North Carolina, and I definitely think there is a link between less education and guns, in ALL communities. But thats off topic anyways, LOL!
And to all these people using them for protection, please explain to me, because I really am open to hearing, how you can get to your guns in an emergency? Like, a car just drove into your house and dudes with guns are getting out...or someone just kicked your door down...how do you get your gun quickly if its stored safely and properly? Like, do you have to choose, go grab my kids from their room or go grab the gun from the safe? I just don't see it being possible AND effective.
And how many have actually been in a situation where a gun was used for protection? I know I have been in situations where guns were grossly misused, and they quickly went from being something that could be protecting us, to something that could kill us, so it would be interesting to see, how many people on here had experience with either.
I made assumption from all your anti white sentiments you have posted whitey311, but you are right it is of no concern to me...so you win a free day at the gun range. just email me your contact info and I will arrange a free day for you at a local gun range. Happy Shooting!

“ME DON'T NEED MENSA!”

Since: Jul 08

Marietta, GA

#82 Jul 9, 2008
whitney311 wrote:
So you have the key for your gun safe sitting right there on it? Or ready to grab at any second?
red·neck
1. an uneducated white farm laborer, esp. from the South.
2. a bigot or reactionary, esp. from the rural working class.
3. Also, red-necked. narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary: a redneck attitude.
See...it can be applied to more than one race, although, if you want to use a very narrow definition of the word, I guess you could apply it to whites only, but I have met all kinds of rednecks: black, white, hispanic. Honky is more so a white person term, but it is what makes up most of the ignorant, rural south, I know because thats where I grew up.
And while stupid people usual do remain stupid, children raised by stupid people could benefit from a better education than what you get out in the country, where there is hardly any diversity, or reflection of the real world.
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