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Pastor opposes 'sex club' at daughter's high school

There are 739 comments on the www.onenewsnow.com story from Feb 19, 2008, titled Pastor opposes 'sex club' at daughter's high school . In it, www.onenewsnow.com reports that:

Ken Hutcherson, a pro-family pastor near Seattle, is objecting to the activities of what he calls a "sex club" in his daughter's public high school -- and to the fact that the club is allotted a whole day on ...

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Wayne

United States

#1 Feb 19, 2008
Tell me the queers ain't pushing their deviant lifestyle. Pathetic!
george anderson jr

Winter Garden, FL

#2 Feb 19, 2008
Wayne wrote:
Tell me the queers ain't pushing their deviant lifestyle. Pathetic!
lol,you know they meaning gays will deny this is even happening,just wait and see,oh and they will deny it too because of the website this story is posted on.
Wayne

United States

#3 Feb 19, 2008
Yeah. They don't recognize anything that condemns their lifestyle. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....... And they hate Brother Paul. I wonder why? lol
Converted

San Francisco, CA

#4 Feb 19, 2008
Pushing a lifestyle means telling someone they need to be a certain way. ie door to door. but simply exisiting in society doesn't hurt anyone. Just 'cause AA exists doesn't mean I'll stop drinking but I support their cause.
Wayne

United States

#5 Feb 19, 2008
Converted wrote:
Pushing a lifestyle means telling someone they need to be a certain way. ie door to door. but simply exisiting in society doesn't hurt anyone. Just 'cause AA exists doesn't mean I'll stop drinking but I support their cause.
Why do they want the schools to accept it? Beats going to door to door. Get em' while they're young. It's being done subtlety. Just like ole satan likes it.
Fitz

Grosse Pointe, MI

#6 Feb 19, 2008

This is a worthwhile post I did on the subject.

It relates the opinions of (the world only?) resonable homosexual on this topic.

Its a response Camile Paglia (lesbian academic & author) wrote regarding this very topic.

http://opine-editorials.blogspot.com/2008/02/...
belkins

United States

#7 Feb 19, 2008
what bothers me first, is that this is not an educational thing. it doesnt help the students academically. and that is where I stand with all thinsg involving school issues. The litmus test must first be - is this an academic enhancement, or something else.

Second, the bigger issue is do we want schools to be places for learning about social issues? and if so how..???

Social clubs, etc are okay, but not when they become movements for any cause...be it sexual, religious, or political...etc..

schools should be about academics. not social enhancement institutions. Our taxes have got to be directed towards education first, second, third, fourth and fifth...

cjf

Since: Feb 07

Fort Lauderdale

#8 Feb 19, 2008
Last time I checked it was the Christians doing the active recruiting, and from my recollection they use quite a few scare tactics. A gay straight alliance is not promoting sex its promoting understanding and tolerance. Maybe if a gay straight alliance had been established at the school in Oxford CA a 15 year old wouldn't have been shot and killed for being gay.
Wayne

United States

#9 Feb 19, 2008
belkins wrote:
what bothers me first, is that this is not an educational thing. it doesnt help the students academically. and that is where I stand with all thinsg involving school issues. The litmus test must first be - is this an academic enhancement, or something else.
Second, the bigger issue is do we want schools to be places for learning about social issues? and if so how..???
Social clubs, etc are okay, but not when they become movements for any cause...be it sexual, religious, or political...etc..
schools should be about academics. not social enhancement institutions. Our taxes have got to be directed towards education first, second, third, fourth and fifth...
Sorry to bust your bubble belkins. The queers want your kids to accept their lifestyle no matter what YOU say and they think the schools is a good place to start.
Wayne

United States

#10 Feb 19, 2008
cjf wrote:
Last time I checked it was the Christians doing the active recruiting, and from my recollection they use quite a few scare tactics. A gay straight alliance is not promoting sex its promoting understanding and tolerance. Maybe if a gay straight alliance had been established at the school in Oxford CA a 15 year old wouldn't have been shot and killed for being gay.
God is NOT tolerant of queers. What gave you that idea? The 15 year old being shot is a sad thing.

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#11 Feb 19, 2008
Tee hee!

This is a very funny thread.

Fundamentalists pushed and pushed to get non-academic clubs allowed in schools so they could have their Bible Study clubs.

And now, they complain about the fact that the clubs they fought so hard to have allowed don't all suit their tastes and agendas.

The article, by the way, doesn't even use the terminology that would properly describe the club; it's biased and insulting to its readers' intelligence.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#12 Feb 19, 2008
belkins--"what bothers me first, is that this is not an educational thing. it doesnt help the students academically. and that is where I stand with all thinsg involving school issues."

Does football? Chess club? Of course not. Kids NEED activities besides just class and homework, these are very positive for kids and must be part of the school.

"The litmus test must first be - is this an academic enhancement, or something else."

And if it's something else, that's fine. There's a need for BOTH.

"Second, the bigger issue is do we want schools to be places for learning about social issues? and if so how..???"

This is an extra-curricular club, not a class.

"Social clubs, etc are okay, but not when they become movements for any cause...be it sexual, religious, or political...etc.."

Clubs are great. There are Democrat clubs, Republican clubs, Christian clubs, Muslim Clubs at my kids schools, they're VERY positive for the kids, give them a reason to take school more seriously, more fun, keep them out of trouble.

"schools should be about academics. not social enhancement institutions."

They're both, and with extremely good reason. WITHOUT these clubs, without something to do, without the self-esteem that comes from participation in an interest, kids are far more likely to get into trouble, drugs, risky sexual behavior, other knucklehead activity.

"Our taxes have got to be directed towards education first, second, third, fourth and fifth."

Our schools are desperately underfunded, but extra-curricular activity is a VITAL part of school, of growing up. I had a miserable middle school experience, absolutely horrific. I had a much better time in high school, was more involved, better grades better attendence, cared more about it, more school pride.

Why?

Baseball.

Kids NEED these things.

And in this case the club is an excellent way to promote diversity and oppose bigotry, to make ALL kids feel welcome and safe in the school, and this minister's opposition is bad Christianity and bad educationally. Christ said Love one another, and that includes gay people.

“Romans 13: 8-10”

Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#13 Feb 19, 2008
One other thing...that story was HORRIBLY biased, and came from the propoganda website of a hate group, NOT a legitimate news source. Funny how the hate group was a "pro-family" group, but the group in favor of justice was "pro-homosexual," as if they were trying to turn people gay, which is idiotic since sexual orientation is NOT chosen.
No Fear

United States

#14 Feb 19, 2008
cjf wrote:
Last time I checked it was the Christians doing the active recruiting, and from my recollection they use quite a few scare tactics. A gay straight alliance is not promoting sex its promoting understanding and tolerance. Maybe if a gay straight alliance had been established at the school in Oxford CA a 15 year old wouldn't have been shot and killed for being gay.
It wasn't something that the killer of the 15 year old was or was not taught at school.

It's the lack of parents or teaching at home! Wake Up!

I agree with BK on this and he has a great post I might add.

"schools should be about academics. not social enhancement institutions. Our taxes have got to be directed towards education first, second, third, fourth and fifth..."
george anderson jr

Winter Garden, FL

#15 Feb 19, 2008
Dasein9 wrote:
Tee hee!
This is a very funny thread.
Fundamentalists pushed and pushed to get non-academic clubs allowed in schools so they could have their Bible Study clubs.
And now, they complain about the fact that the clubs they fought so hard to have allowed don't all suit their tastes and agendas.
The article, by the way, doesn't even use the terminology that would properly describe the club; it's biased and insulting to its readers' intelligence.
no your lifestyle is an insult to GOD ALMIGHTY,and its a stench in the nostrils of GOD,wake up and repent or burn in hell,its your choice.

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#16 Feb 19, 2008
OkieDarren wrote:
... Clubs are great. There are Democrat clubs, Republican clubs, Christian clubs, Muslim Clubs at my kids schools, they're VERY positive for the kids, give them a reason to take school more seriously, more fun, keep them out of trouble.
Darren's got some good points. I would add to this one the fact that the clubs give students an opportunity to learn to apply much of what they learn in their academic courses to real life situations. These clubs are the laboratories where the theory they've learned in the classroom are often put into practice. This is how kids learn the value of their education and just why it's not just a bunch of hoops they have to jump through to please those in authority.
george anderson jr

Winter Garden, FL

#17 Feb 19, 2008
OkieDarren wrote:
One other thing...that story was HORRIBLY biased, and came from the propoganda website of a hate group, NOT a legitimate news source. Funny how the hate group was a "pro-family" group, but the group in favor of justice was "pro-homosexual," as if they were trying to turn people gay, which is idiotic since sexual orientation is NOT chosen.
lol okie thanks for proving me right,i said someone would come along and dismiss this story simply because of the site it was on,and sure enough you came along and proved me right,never fails.
Wayne

United States

#18 Feb 19, 2008
OkieDarren wrote:
One other thing...that story was HORRIBLY biased, and came from the propoganda website of a hate group, NOT a legitimate news source. Funny how the hate group was a "pro-family" group, but the group in favor of justice was "pro-homosexual," as if they were trying to turn people gay, which is idiotic since sexual orientation is NOT chosen.
So, if it had been written by a queer or a supporter of gay rights it would have been "legitimate?" lol

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#19 Feb 19, 2008
george anderson jr wrote:
<quoted text>lol okie thanks for proving me right,i said someone would come along and dismiss this story simply because of the site it was on,and sure enough you came along and proved me right,never fails.
Nope. If the site were to publish true reportage, then it would be acceptable. Note Darren critiqued the article itself, as did I. It is a biased piece, and should be dismissed in its own right as propaganda.

“Don't respond to forum trolls.”

Since: Nov 07

Medford, Massachusetts

#20 Feb 19, 2008
I, too, found the article to be bias in a decidedly Christian Conservative direction. Using phrases like "promotes homosexuality" instead of saying "supporting GLBTQ" and that propaganistic word "agenda" ... YAWN. But, given the source of the news article, it is no wonder. From the site's FAQ:

What is OneNewsNow.com and who operates this site?
OneNewsNow.com is the website of the American Family News Network (AFN), a national Christian news service. Our goal is to present the day's news from a biblical perspective.

I also didn't realize that the Day of Silence is a national event that takes place in 1000s of schools. Evidently the student can decide for him/herself how to act/not act on that day.

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