School discipline / paddling

School discipline / paddling

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jkj

Bristol, TN

#1 Jul 13, 2009
Do any of the schools around Hancock county still paddle for discipline. I read about the principal getting iin trouble last year and wonder if your schools stopped paddling. If they fo paddle who does it? Teacher or principal. Anyone here get paddled?
What are the otehr discipline options?
no one in particular

Strawberry Plains, TN

#2 Jul 13, 2009
In the Middle/High School the other form of discipline includes in-school and out-of school suspensions, or students having to write reports. For example if they are caught for Public Displays of Affection, they have to write a report about Mono.

Corporal punishment is still legal in Tennessee. The former principal was cleared by a court of all charges.
buku

Newport, TN

#3 Jul 13, 2009
back when i went to school if you didnt get a whoopen your day was just wasted.
I KNOW

Knoxville, TN

#4 Jul 13, 2009
no one in particular wrote:
In the Middle/High School the other form of discipline includes in-school and out-of school suspensions, or students having to write reports. For example if they are caught for Public Displays of Affection, they have to write a report about Mono.
Corporal punishment is still legal in Tennessee. The former principal was cleared by a court of all charges.
I AM SURE GLAD YOU KNOW SO MUCH MR. ZACHARY NEVER WENT TO COURT YOU DUMB A**.

“Its me again lol”

Since: Oct 08

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#5 Jul 13, 2009
I strongly belive in school paddlings .I have never seen why a parent wouldnt want their child paddled if they got into trouble.I had to sign for my son to get a good whoppin if he got into trouble at school and I let them know if they whopped him then he would get another one when he got home. That keeps em walkin a straight line.

“Hancock Proud”

Since: Feb 09

Hancock County Tennessee

#6 Jul 13, 2009
I got paddlings everyday and I am alive and well and it hasn't stunted my 'development'. I firmly believe that discipline starts at home. Too many parents don't have ANY and kids need and expect directions. It is our job. I wonder at parents. I think 'other forms' of discipline are a joke. If you let a kid get to High School or even Middle School with no discipline, paddling or anything else is not going to work anyway.

They still use corporal punishment, performed at the High School mainly by the principal. I think after Mr. Zachary's experience they have toned it down. He never paddled much anyway, I don't think. And 'I KNOW', why were the charges cleared if he did NOT GO TO COURT? What happened there then? My kids loved Mr. Zachary. Mr. Belcher is never there except of a morning. Donnie Seal is there alone most of the time. What a change.
no one in particular

Strawberry Plains, TN

#7 Jul 13, 2009
Citizen Tribune, Morristown, Tennessee, 1 April 2008
Grand jury does not indict Hancock principal
By Robert Moore

Corporal punishment at school — even when it results in severe bruising — is not a prosecutable offense, a Hancock County grand jury found on Tuesday.

The grand jury declined to indict Hancock County High School and Middle School principal Thomas Zachary for any offense.

District Attorney General C. Berkeley Bell Jr. gave the grand jury the option of indicting Zachary for aggravated assault, simple assault and child abuse.

**********

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that a grand jury happens in court.
I KNOW wrote:
<quoted text>I AM SURE GLAD YOU KNOW SO MUCH MR. ZACHARY NEVER WENT TO COURT YOU DUMB A**.
I Hope So

New Tazewell, TN

#8 Jul 13, 2009
jkj wrote:
Do any of the schools around Hancock county still paddle for discipline....
The More, the BETTER.

Sheesh....without that "ultimate consequence" a lot of kids (not all, but many) are uncontrollable.

“Its me again lol”

Since: Oct 08

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#9 Jul 14, 2009
If you want your kids to act and do right whoop it wont kill em. If you dont get the bluff on em while they are little by the time they get to teen agers its too late.
OverHome Boy

Morristown, TN

#10 Jul 14, 2009
I have had many trips to Mr. Zachary's office when in high school in the late 70's and early 80's. and don't care to tell you that he lit me up. If only schools today would do that, there would a lot less trouble. I also agree thar discipine must begin at home. Way too much time out, a good belt works much better
mamawoverhome

United States

#11 Jul 14, 2009
my dad always told us u r doing ur kids wrong if u don't make them mind u. ... his saying was u can straten a tree when it's young and tender but when it gets old it will break ever time ..he said it was the same with kid.
mamawoverhome

United States

#12 Jul 14, 2009
the bible says teach them when they are little . and when they get old they want depart from it . they may sray but they will come back... it also says spare the rod and spoil the child . it's our duty to teach our kids to mind us . the parents r to blame for the way the kids r...
clinch gal

New Market, TN

#13 Jul 14, 2009
whew...i gotta weigh in on this.. the purpose of school is to educate, not discipline..for those kids who don't "go with the system" i say take them out of there. the problem with school discipline, is most parents object, then raise cain with the school and take up for their kids. This is like throwing gas on a fire. Many kids feel they can get away with stuff because "my parents will raise h***". The kids don't like in-school, because there is alot of structure and work. The out-of-school discipline at kingswood is good because the kids get a glimpse of another form of discipline..they are very structured. Yes, when we were small, spankings at the school worked, because like you say, randy, you then got one at home.. times aren't like that anymore
no one in particular

Strawberry Plains, TN

#14 Jul 14, 2009
When I was younger if you got in trouble at school, you got it again when you got home.(There was no "my side of the story".) Now when a child gets in trouble at school, the teacher gets the phone call from the parent. Now, the teacher has no "side".
I Hope So

New Tazewell, TN

#15 Jul 14, 2009
clinch gal wrote:
... the purpose of school is to educate, not discipline..for those kids who don't "go with the system" i say take them out of there....
In an attempt to stick with what works in these "modern" times...I think schools, at the beginning of each year...should send out forms that give the parents 2 choices.

-Authorize paddling of their child...if needed.
or
-If not, then understand that if their child behaves in a way that would otherwise earn them a paddling...the kid will be suspended for 3 days...immediately...and the parents required to pick them up within 1 hour.

Why such a "stark" policy?

Because, like Clinch Gal sez...the purpose of school is to educate, not discipline. But they have to maintain an environment in which they can educate to begin with.

And if the parents are going to tie the schools hands...then THEY need to deal with the consequences.

PARENTS....are you one of those calling the school if your little angle where to get what they need...a good swat on the rear?

Well then YOU deal with the problem.

Don't tie the schools hands and then get mad when you start getting calls in the middle of the day.

You can't have it both ways.
no one in particular

Strawberry Plains, TN

#16 Jul 14, 2009
I like the way you think. I'm all for it.
buku

Newport, TN

#17 Jul 14, 2009
i agree.
Winsome One

Sevierville, TN

#18 Jul 14, 2009
no one in particular wrote:
Citizen Tribune, Morristown, Tennessee, 1 April 2008
Grand jury does not indict Hancock principal
By Robert Moore
Corporal punishment at school — even when it results in severe bruising — is not a prosecutable offense, a Hancock County grand jury found on Tuesday.
The grand jury declined to indict Hancock County High School and Middle School principal Thomas Zachary for any offense.
District Attorney General C. Berkeley Bell Jr. gave the grand jury the option of indicting Zachary for aggravated assault, simple assault and child abuse.
**********
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that a grand jury happens in court.
<quoted text>
The Grand Jury decides whether or not there is sufficient reason for a case to go to trial. They meet privately, hear the evidence and ask questions before voting.

“Its me again lol”

Since: Oct 08

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#19 Jul 15, 2009
I think if the parents sue the school teachers for makin their heathens mind they ought to be whooped.
Wanted

United States

#20 Jul 15, 2009
I Hope So wrote:
<quoted text>
In an attempt to stick with what works in these "modern" times...I think schools, at the beginning of each year...should send out forms that give the parents 2 choices.
-Authorize paddling of their child...if needed.
or
-If not, then understand that if their child behaves in a way that would otherwise earn them a paddling...the kid will be suspended for 3 days...immediately...and the parents required to pick them up within 1 hour.
Why such a "stark" policy?
Because, like Clinch Gal sez...the purpose of school is to educate, not discipline. But they have to maintain an environment in which they can educate to begin with.
And if the parents are going to tie the schools hands...then THEY need to deal with the consequences.
PARENTS....are you one of those calling the school if your little angle where to get what they need...a good swat on the rear?
Well then YOU deal with the problem.
Don't tie the schools hands and then get mad when you start getting calls in the middle of the day.
You can't have it both ways.
I so totally agree. Parents are just looking for someone to blame for their kid's problems. Disapline does start at home and kids wont appreciate it at first but later on in life they will respect what their parents did for them. I know I do.

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