Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9769 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Chattanoogan.com.

Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8375 Jul 21, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is worse? 47,000 paralyzed kids or 47 million paralyzed kids.
Seems like pretty easy math.
47 million?
Where did you come up with that amount?
The same mind that did the math?

“Don't let em take ur liberties”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#8377 Jul 21, 2013
Top Mod 8 wrote:
Should the state should mandate immunizations for your children? Do you feel they are safe for all children. Do they cause other health issues like autism? Should the state also pay for them as well if they are requiring them?
You asked a simple poll question. I thought this was to be a poll. mybad

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8378 Jul 21, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
47 million?
Where did you come up with that amount?
The same mind that did the math?
There are a billion + people in India. Polio commonly results in paralyzation.

Failing to vaccinate the public would result epidemic infection and, as a result, millions would end up paralyzed.

Alternately, the vaccines prevents wide spread infection, but effects a very small percentage of people negatively.

There is no third option.

So, either LOTS of people are paralyzed or very few people are paralyzed. Pick one.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#8379 Jul 22, 2013
"Leaked Memo Reveals Big Pharma's Strategy To Combat Regulators Who Want Drug Trial Results Published."

Click here:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/21/leaked-...

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8380 Jul 22, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
"Leaked Memo Reveals Big Pharma's Strategy To Combat Regulators Who Want Drug Trial Results Published."
Click here:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/21/leaked-...
All trials should be published.

Big Pharma does have a problem with claiming that some drugs are more effective than they really are.

However, that's not the same thing as the conspiracy theorist nutjobs who claim that vaccines cause retroactive gene mutations in the mother's matrilinal line going back 3 generations.
Myth

Lebanon, TN

#8381 Jul 22, 2013
Herd immunity is a myth. There are too many undervaccinated adults to be anywhere close to establishing herd immunity. Without herd immunity right now, are diseases out of control? NO.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8382 Jul 22, 2013
Myth wrote:
Herd immunity is a myth. There are too many undervaccinated adults to be anywhere close to establishing herd immunity. Without herd immunity right now, are diseases out of control? NO.
Whooping cough, measles and mumps are all making a comeback.

Read a headline once in a while
Thor

Oneida, TN

#8383 Jul 22, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Whooping cough, measles and mumps are all making a comeback.
Read a headline once in a while
Nuggin, I sure don't want polio to resurface. We had the vaccine on a lump of sugar. It is said we are very fortunate not to have contracted the disease. We were guinea pigs.
I do know the facts

Lebanon, TN

#8384 Jul 22, 2013
http://thevaccinemachine.blogspot.com/2011/02... Vaccination rates are at all time highs. The whooping cough vaccine and MMR are failing.
Thor wrote:
<quoted text> Nuggin, I sure don't want polio to resurface. We had the vaccine on a lump of sugar. It is said we are very fortunate not to have contracted the disease. We were guinea pigs.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8386 Jul 22, 2013
I do know the facts wrote:
http://thevaccinemachine.blogs pot.com/2011/02/release-parrot s.html Vaccination rates are at all time highs. The whooping cough vaccine and MMR are failing.
<quoted text>
LOL!

Idiot. Don't link to a blog for facts. If you want vaccine rates go to the CDC or the WHO.

Not some jackass' blog.

Learn the difference between science and opinion. Then realize all you have is opinion and STFU when science is talking.
Wait

Johnson City, TN

#8387 Jul 22, 2013
I can see some one getting a small pox vac. Or Polio vac.. There are risks with vaccines just like with surgery etc... Those vaccines are worth the risk. Flu shots that for the most part are a joke offer for no protection. Growing up for 17 years I never had the flu I had chicken pox stomach viruses never the flu but when I was 17 mother made me get a flu shot because of the media propaganda that my grandmother was watching on tv. Guess what I got the flu several weeks later and my arm hurt for a week. Any body can die from the flu just like heart attacks healthy people without blockages young and old can die from heart attack etcc same with the flu. Sotheby's real issue is polio and small pox vaccines, that type of serious serious stuff. A cancer vaccine if it really worked would be great . Now flu shots to e that is a FDA big pharma money making load of crap I bet if some real studies were done on flu shots would probably just see the benefit of a flu shot as the placebo effect. I am not saying in any way that a healthy lifestyle is not beneficial that's probably your best defense having a healthy immune system not one overloaded with 30 flu vaccines.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8388 Jul 23, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!
Idiot. Don't link to a blog for facts. If you want vaccine rates go to the CDC or the WHO.
Not some jackass' blog.
Learn the difference between science and opinion. Then realize all you have is opinion and STFU when science is talking.
CDC? HUH?
Weren't these the same folks who went along with those bio-warfare experiments? Now these are the kind of people to put your trust in? Right?
Idiot?
And, before Y'all line those who disagree with your MSM propaganda, check out the recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in US and the UK who have concluded that those conspiracy nut jobs you like to refer to appear to be saner then those so willing to accept the official stories.
Guess those anti-conspiracy jerks seek out info to confirm their beliefs, and use irrational mechanisms-such as that conspiracy theory-to avoid conflicting information.
OH yes the anti-folks are quite hostile also.
IDIOT??????????
LOL.
http://www.presstv.com.ir/detail/2013/07/12/3...

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#8389 Jul 23, 2013
Wait wrote:
I can see some one getting a small pox vac. Or Polio vac.. There are risks with vaccines just like with surgery etc... Those vaccines are worth the risk. Flu shots that for the most part are a joke offer for no protection. Growing up for 17 years I never had the flu I had chicken pox stomach viruses never the flu but when I was 17 mother made me get a flu shot because of the media propaganda that my grandmother was watching on tv. Guess what I got the flu several weeks later and my arm hurt for a week.
There are several strains of flu. The CDC has to predict ahead of time which strain will be most common in the coming year. They aren't always correct.

Generally, the flu shot is not for a 17 year old. It's for the elderly and the very young. At 17, you can handle the flu. At 97 you can't. Even if there's a 50/50 chance that it's the wrong shot, its still better to give the 97 year old the shot.
Any body can die from the flu just like heart attacks healthy people without blockages young and old can die from heart attack etcc same with the flu.
This is like saying anyone can die from tripping and falling.

Yes, if you generalize it that much.

However, tripping and falling OFF A BUILDING has a much higher death rate than tripping and falling ONTO THE COUCH.
Now flu shots to e that is a FDA big pharma money making load of crap I bet if some real studies were done on flu shots would probably just see the benefit of a flu shot as the placebo effect.
First of all, many vaccine companies which make the flu shot do so at a LOSS. It's very expensive and the shots are extremely cheap.

They do it because they are asked to by the CDC. In fact, we're having trouble getting enough flu shots BECAUSE they are so unprofitable.

And no, vaccines do not offer a placebo effect. The flu is a virus, it's present or it isn't.
I am not saying in any way that a healthy lifestyle is not beneficial that's probably your best defense having a healthy immune system not one overloaded with 30 flu vaccines.
You have no idea what a "health immune system" is, nor what it would take to overload it.

You're just talking out your ass.

Go back to making the french fries.
Mea

Aurora, MN

#8393 Jul 23, 2013
Wow this is the longest convo ever
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8394 Jul 23, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
There are several strains of flu. The CDC has to predict ahead of time which strain will be most common in the coming year. They aren't always correct.
Generally, the flu shot is not for a 17 year old. It's for the elderly and the very young. At 17, you can handle the flu. At 97 you can't. Even if there's a 50/50 chance that it's the wrong shot, its still better to give the 97 year old the shot.
<quoted text>
This is like saying anyone can die from tripping and falling.
Yes, if you generalize it that much.
However, tripping and falling OFF A BUILDING has a much higher death rate than tripping and falling ONTO THE COUCH.
<quoted text>
First of all, many vaccine companies which make the flu shot do so at a LOSS. It's very expensive and the shots are extremely cheap.
They do it because they are asked to by the CDC. In fact, we're having trouble getting enough flu shots BECAUSE they are so unprofitable.
And no, vaccines do not offer a placebo effect. The flu is a virus, it's present or it isn't.
<quoted text>
You have no idea what a "health immune system" is, nor what it would take to overload it.
You're just talking out your ass.
Go back to making the french fries.
Oh my, aren't we hostile? Well that's those anti-conspiracy folks trying to blow away what they just don't want to see.
Your Cuz

Chicago, IL

#8395 Jul 24, 2013
No
Stacie

Morristown, TN

#8396 Jul 25, 2013
guest wrote:
And if your child has the vaccine, and you're so confident in it, why does it matter if mine do not?
A parent can choose to vaccinate or not, but not vaccinating puts that child and other children who are around your child at risk for serious illness and death.
If there is an outbreak of a disease an unimmunized child poses a threat to the community. They can pass on the disease to babies to young for the immunization or who cannot have the immunization due to medical reasons(such as cancer). According to the WHO there were 158,000 measles deaths globally in 2011.
parent

Johnson City, TN

#8397 Jul 25, 2013
yes
yep

Jackson, TN

#8398 Jul 26, 2013
Its safe
Silvermaven

United States

#8399 Jul 26, 2013
WHO is going to be responsible for Ring Around the Rosy all over again? Humm? Any takers?

NO and there won't be any because they are protected by your criminal Congress

who also legislate takeing antibiotics away from our feed animals KNOWING since 1985 what really caused AIDS--infections they gave us in vaccines, so you have NO Meats. LOL
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2180/9/137
Genome sequencing of diverse bacterial species has revealed widespread distribution of conserved gene products

with as-yet unknown functions.

Among these are a family of small proteins with approximate molecular masses of 12 kDa, which have been variously classed as

"domain of unknown function" (DUF) 149, Pfam 2575 and COG-0718 [1].

Such genes have been identified in a wide variety of bacterial phyla,

a list that includes many significant pathogens of humans, domestic animals and plants (Fig. 1).

thumbnailFigure 1. Alignment of the predicted amino acid sequences of YbaB/EbfC orthologs of

H. influenzae (Hi),
E. coli (Ec),

Vibrio cholerae (Vc),

Pseudomonas putida (Pp),
Rickettsia rickettsiae (Rr),
Neisseria gonorrhoeae (Ng),
Bdellovibrio bacteriovorus (Bba),
Clostridium perfringens (Cp),

Bacillus subtilis (Bs),

Enterococcus faecalis (Ef),
Streptococcus pneumoniae (Sp),
Mycobacterium tuberculosis (Mt),
Bacteroides capillosus (Bc), and

B. burgdorferi (Bbu).

Identical amino acids are boxed and shaded. Amino acid residues of YbaBEc and YbaBHi that comprise &#945;lpha-helices 1 and 3 of their determined protein structures are identified.
DNA-binding by Haemophilus influenzae and Escherichia coli

2008 - You see the flocks of people going to get some real treatment for what really causes Our Age of Syndromes? NOPE...LOL

Orthologs of EbfC are encoded by a wide range of bacterial species, so characterization of the borrelial protein has implications that span the eubacterial kingdom.

The present work defines the DNA sequence required for high-affinity binding by EbfC to be the 4 bp broken palindrome GTnAC, where ‘n’ can be any nucleotide.

Two high-affinity EbfC-binding sites are located immediately 5&#8242; of B. burgdorferi erp transcriptional promoters, and binding of EbfC was found to alter the conformation of erp promoter DNA. Consensus EbfC-binding sites are abundantly distributed throughout the B. burgdorferi genome, occurring approximately once every 1 kb.

EbfC was shown to bind DNA as a homodimer, and site-directed mutagenesis studies indicated that EbfC and its orthologs appear

to bind DNA via a novel &#945;-helical ‘tweezer’-like structure.

http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/37/6/19...
It is noteworthy that many of the &#945;-helix 1 and 3 residues of EbfC are distinct from residues in both YbaBEc and YbaBHi (Fig. 1), consistent with the differences in

DNA preferences between the E. coli and H. influenzae YbaB proteins and their spirochetal ortholog.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846702
The PUR-domain is a nucleic acid-binding motif found in critical regulatory proteins of higher eukaryotes, and in certain species of bacteria. During investigations into mechanisms by which the Lyme disease spirochete controls synthesis of its Erp surface proteins, it was discovered that the borrelial PUR-domain protein, Bpur, binds with high affinity to double-stranded DNA adjacent to the erp transcriptional promoter. Bpur was found to enhance the effects of the erp repressor protein, BpaB.
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Bpur also bound single stranded DNA and RNA, with relative affinities RNA > double stranded DNA > single stranded DNA.
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They gave us all gene sharing stealth bioweapons in vaccines for decades to cause ALL Syndromes, Psych, Cancers today. And YOU PAY for it all with your tax dollars as they kill you with stupid.

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